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Al-Turki Episode Makes Saudis Think Twice Before Sending Children to US
Arab News ^ | 20 sep 06 | Saleh Fareed

Posted on 09/20/2006 12:40:38 PM PDT by white trash redneck

JEDDAH, 20 September 2006 — Due to the intimidation and harassment Saudi students have been recently experiencing in the United States, especially after what happened to Homaidan Al-Turki and his family, Saudis are thinking twice before sending their children to study in America.

“Such discrimination and humiliation would discourage parents from even thinking about sending their children to study in the US,” said Muhammad Al-Enezi, 39.

On Aug. 31, a Colorado court sentenced Al-Turki to 27 years in prison for sexually assaulting his maid, forcibly imprisoning her and not paying her wages — charges he vehemently denies.

Al-Enezi, a teacher at one of the largest high schools in Jeddah, said that many of his students who had been contemplating of studying in the US now showed no interest in heading there.

“Most of them refuse to continue their college education in the US and they havethe support of their parents. It’s obvious that they’ve decided so after hearing about the mistreatment and intimidation suffered by other Saudi students in the US,” he said.

Jamal Al-Najjar, a government employee and father of two, urged the Saudi government to put pressure on the US administration to change its policy toward Saudi students.

Al-Najjar hopes that Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah will interfere and bring a solution to the issue relating to Al-Homaidan, who was sentenced in the US under “false accusations.”

“I am not going to sacrifice my sons by sending them to the US as long as they keep mistreating our children and abusing them for no reasons. My two sons will be graduating this year from high school and I will never ever think of sending them to America,” Al-Najjar said.

“I know of many parents that have changed their plans and are sending their children to other destinations such as Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. The US is not the right place for our children and I hope all parents do not think about sending their children to any part of the US,” he added.

According to the latest statistics, there has been a noticed decrease of GCC students in the US, the biggest drop being in Saudi numbers.

“This is because of the new political climate after Sept. 11, 2001, and the fact that Muslims in the US are facing many difficulties for mistakes that could be dealt in a less aggressive way,” said 29-year-old Ahmed Al-Falih, who is currently studying at a university in the US Midwest.

Speaking to Arab News by telephone, he described the situation of Saudi students as unsafe. “Many students feel scared. They expect the unexpected just like Al-Turki who has been accused of rape and other things that he did not do.”

Meanwhile, a Saudi tourist returning from the United States recently expressed anger and frustration at mistreatment suffered at the hands of US authorities when he was detained for a couple of hours at the J.F. Kennedy Airport. “I thought things would have calmed down after all these years but the situation is still tense and Arabs are discriminated against and mistreated,” said Mamdouh Al-Saeed, 24.

Al-Saeed added that he would not feel comfortable going to the US for further education in the current climate.

Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors”. He blamed anti-Muslim prejudice for his conviction and the severity of the sentence. He claimed that the prosecutors persuaded the maid to accuse him after they failed to build a case against him as a terrorist.

People across Saudi Arabia have little faith in the US government and constantly accuse the authorities there of double standards by harshly punishing Al-Turki, while simultaneously letting off the perpetrators behind the Abu Ghraib fiasco in Iraq with a slap on the wrist.



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So the Saudis are upset that they are not allowed to keep slaves in the US, and as a result they are "thinking twice before sending their children to study in America"?

Please don't throw us in that brier patch, Br'er A-rab!

1 posted on 09/20/2006 12:40:40 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck

Is that a threat or a promise?


2 posted on 09/20/2006 12:42:01 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 120-134)
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To: white trash redneck

Good. Who wants them here anyway?


3 posted on 09/20/2006 12:42:02 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: white trash redneck
Awwww, poor babies.
4 posted on 09/20/2006 12:43:26 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: white trash redneck

And this is a bad thing?


5 posted on 09/20/2006 12:43:29 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: white trash redneck

Goody. Maybe the 10,000 or so coming here to study will decide to stay home.


6 posted on 09/20/2006 12:43:49 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: white trash redneck

Goody. Maybe the 10,000 or so coming here to study will decide to stay home.


7 posted on 09/20/2006 12:45:08 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: white trash redneck
So the Saudis are upset that they are not allowed to keep slaves in the US, and as a result they are "thinking twice before sending their children to study in America"?

Precisely what I was thinking. Boy, no wonder those Saudi's don't want to come here, we are sooooo intolerant.

8 posted on 09/20/2006 12:45:09 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: MikeA

I gotta say that I'm not upset by it.


10 posted on 09/20/2006 12:45:45 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: white trash redneck
Who would have thought the Dhimmis would object to Turki keeping a woman as a household slave and having sex with her whenever he wanted? Isn't that the way things are done back home?
11 posted on 09/20/2006 12:46:08 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: white trash redneck

There was a news item just a few days ago stating that Bush and the Saudi's had supposedly inked a new agreement that would bring 15,000 new Saudi students to "study" at US universities - and that they were already arriving by the 1,000s?


12 posted on 09/20/2006 12:46:11 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: white trash redneck
On Aug. 31, a Colorado court sentenced Al-Turki to 27 years in prison for sexually assaulting his maid, forcibly imprisoning her and not paying her wages — charges he vehemently denies.

Al-Enezi, a teacher at one of the largest high schools in Jeddah, said that many of his students who had been contemplating of studying in the US now showed no interest in heading there.


Unless these students are also contemplating sexually assaulting their maids, imprisoning them and not paying their wages, I don't see why they'd be so worried. And I don't see the loss to the US.
13 posted on 09/20/2006 12:46:12 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: white trash redneck

If sexually assaulting someone is “traditional Muslim behaviors”, then they are not welcomed.


14 posted on 09/20/2006 12:46:15 PM PDT by TejanoJim
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To: white trash redneck

Once in a blue moon some Muslim slaver living the U.S. gets popped and the Arab crowds go wild!

Stay out of the U.S. All your sons do is get drunk, run around with promiscuous coeds, and bad mouth U.S. foreign policy. Those are all jobs that the native born are more than willing to do.


15 posted on 09/20/2006 12:47:38 PM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: white trash redneck; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ...
On Aug. 31, a Colorado court sentenced Al-Turki to 27 years in prison for sexually assaulting his maid, forcibly imprisoning her and not paying her wages — charges he vehemently denies.
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Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors”.

Traditional Muslim behaviors?

16 posted on 09/20/2006 12:48:05 PM PDT by A. Pole (Rasmussen: "multiculturalism cannot work as intolerant culture will impose its will on tolerant one")
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Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors”.

Yes, they are. You can't lock a woman up in a closet and beat her here, even if it is "traditional Muslim behavior."

17 posted on 09/20/2006 12:48:19 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: white trash redneck
Al-Enezi, a teacher at one of the largest high schools in Jeddah, said that many of his students who had been contemplating of studying in the US now showed no interest in heading there.

Two thoughts on this
1. F'ing good. We don't want your wahabbi asses on our soil anyway

and 2. Add this to the looooooong list of Scuzlims whining and complaining about any percieved slight.
18 posted on 09/20/2006 12:48:42 PM PDT by steel_resolve (Do you know what a bigot is? Someone winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: white trash redneck

Hooray!

Keep your devil's spawn at home.


19 posted on 09/20/2006 12:49:50 PM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: white trash redneck

Well, that's not going to break MY heart any time soon. Good riddance.


20 posted on 09/20/2006 12:51:51 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: white trash redneck
“I thought things would have calmed down after all these years"

Nope, and you aint seen nothin yet!

21 posted on 09/20/2006 12:52:29 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: steel_resolve
"...Scuzlims..."

Good one, right up there with "Koranimals".

22 posted on 09/20/2006 12:52:52 PM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (There will only be peace on Earth when Mecca becomes a glass parking lot.)
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To: Alouette

Not sure what we did............but I sure as hell hope we keep it up.


23 posted on 09/20/2006 12:52:57 PM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: white trash redneck

At least Saudi children who study here, return to their homes alive, unlike many American visitors to the Middle East.


24 posted on 09/20/2006 12:53:17 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: white trash redneck

"I know of many parents that have changed their plans and are sending their children to other destinations such as Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and Canada."

My condolences to Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.


25 posted on 09/20/2006 12:55:16 PM PDT by Arpege92 (If you don't stand behind our troops...please feel free to stand in front of them!)
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To: white trash redneck

"So the Saudis are upset that they are not allowed to keep slaves in the US, and as a result they are "thinking twice before sending their children to study in America"?"

Yea, where did they dredge up this argument? I wish they'd think twice.


26 posted on 09/20/2006 12:55:39 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you at the intolerance exhibited here. Next thing you will expect our visitors to show humane attitudes to their employees. Besides she was probably only an illegal anyway.


27 posted on 09/20/2006 12:56:17 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: A. Pole
"Traditional Muslim behaviors?"

Yes, it goes right along with urinating on churches you destroy". Haven't you heard?

28 posted on 09/20/2006 12:57:31 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: white trash redneck
Such injustice! Who does George Bush think he is telling a fine, young, Saudi gentleman that he can't bang the maid whenever the urge strikes?! It's his culture, for crying out loud! Where's the sensitivity? Where's the understanding? Where's the appreciation of diverse backgrounds?

Dude, where's my country?!?

</sarcasm>
29 posted on 09/20/2006 12:57:34 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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So the Saudis are upset that they are not allowed to keep slaves in the US, and as a result they are "thinking twice before sending their children to study in America"?

Amen to that!

I'm guessing they are still wondering what kind of country sends a man, a MAN no less, to prison for treating his chattel like, well, chattel. That would mean they had to take the word of the woman servant, for goodness sake. What's next? Women driving and working? Leaving the burkas at home? (end sarcasm)

30 posted on 09/20/2006 12:59:37 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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"Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors..."

So....let me see.... If I went to Saudi Arabia and engaged in "Traditional American Behaviors" like drinking beer, smoking cigars, riding a Harley w/loud pipes, and chasing hot young women, Saudi society would just have to accept it because "that's just what we Americans do"?

Sorry, they don't get to come to another country and import backwards, 7th-century customs, beliefs, and behaviors that are offensive to members of that society (or in his case, illegal), and then try to claim some bullshit "cultural" waiver when society holds them accountable.

Wasn't that type of behavior in the past what gave us the moniker "Ugly Americans"?

Maybe it's time to update that to "Ugly Arabians".
31 posted on 09/20/2006 1:00:17 PM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Technically, we're all Republicans)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

I'm in a small town. However, if all you Freepers showed up, it would become a big town. But come on anyway.


32 posted on 09/20/2006 1:01:25 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (Deja moo: The feeling you've heard this bull before)
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To: white trash redneck

"My two sons will be graduating this year from high school and I will never ever think of sending them to America,” Al-Najjar said."

Too good to be true. We should have thought of this long ago.


33 posted on 09/20/2006 1:01:48 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: white trash redneck

Too bad, so sad. Stay home, and stay out of Canada while your at it.


34 posted on 09/20/2006 1:02:26 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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To: white trash redneck

We've had too much of cultural nonsense.The way the world is proves beyond any doubt multicultualism will not work.The world would be more at peace if each were in their own country.


35 posted on 09/20/2006 1:02:40 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors”.

"Just the other day I was stoning non-believers to death. My slave girl was handing me the rocks, and I beat her if they weren't perfectly round. A policeman came by and asked me to pick up my litter. Well bandaids are necessary when hurling so many stones. I refuse to be treated like this!"

36 posted on 09/20/2006 1:02:52 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("We will slaughter anyone who calls Islam violent!")
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To: white trash redneck; Famishus
Good. We don't need them. We don't want them. We don't want to hear anymore of them. Good Riddance.

Why come to a country that you KNOW is sensitized to the middle eastern presence and is rightly suspicious of your activities? Does that make you upset, feeling a little put upon? Well tell you what, you stay home, fight those that make it such a living hell for you to be here, change your international image and maybe you might be welcome again. Doubt it though.

Oh, and another thing. YOUR pursuit of happiness does not mean a ticket to America.

37 posted on 09/20/2006 1:03:18 PM PDT by mother22wife21
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To: white trash redneck

>>>“I am not going to sacrifice my sons by sending them to the US as long as they keep mistreating our children and abusing them for no reasons. My two sons will be graduating this year from high school and I will never ever think of sending them to America,” Al-Najjar said. >>>

Huh? Are these people really dumb, or just misinformed?


38 posted on 09/20/2006 1:04:50 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: white trash redneck
Al-Enezi, a teacher at one of the largest high schools in Jeddah, said that many of his students who had been contemplating of studying in the US now showed no interest in heading there.

Suits me fine if they all stay home.

39 posted on 09/20/2006 1:05:24 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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.......My two sons will be graduating this year from high school and I will never ever think of sending them to America,” Al-Najjar said.

GOOD!

40 posted on 09/20/2006 1:06:50 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: white trash redneck

Damn Arabtards are gonna put Scrappleface outta business with articles like this!


41 posted on 09/20/2006 1:06:53 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (If a monkey bangs away at a typewriter twice a week for ten years it could write an M. Dowd column.)
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Al-Najjar hopes that Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah will interfere and bring a solution to the issue relating to Al-Homaidan...

Good luck talking to the state of Colorado Board of Corrections, Abdullah!

42 posted on 09/20/2006 1:07:05 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: white trash redneck
Br'er A-rab

Looks like you're mixing your racial metaphors!?!?{/ shocked approbation}

43 posted on 09/20/2006 1:07:31 PM PDT by BoneHead
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To: Arpege92

Great news that they're leaving.

But sending them to Australia? LOL

Are they in for a BIG surprise!


44 posted on 09/20/2006 1:09:00 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Arpege92
Kind of says a lot that they have to send their kids around the world to learn something doesn't it, instead of a good domestic system. Seems to me that they just love western countries too, I wonder why that is....
45 posted on 09/20/2006 1:18:00 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: conservativeharleyguy

"Al-Turki, 37, said that US authorities were persecuting him for “traditional Muslim behaviors..."

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

there it is.....things only evil and inhuman


46 posted on 09/20/2006 1:19:05 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: white trash redneck

some universities are very dependent on foreign full tuition students.


47 posted on 09/20/2006 1:22:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

“traditional Muslim behaviors..."

Honour killings occur in a distressingly large swathe of the world, from North Africa, Middle East (including Palestine, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, the Gulf Countries, and Iran), Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan. Isolated incidents have also been reported from the UK, Sweden, USA and Germany but these were carried out by Kurdish and other Arab immigrants to these western countries. So we are talking about a rather large territorial base where these crimes are committed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

there it is.....things only evil and inhuman


48 posted on 09/20/2006 1:25:30 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: white trash redneck

So, Saudis students decline to work in countries that refuse to let them rape their slaves.

Oh well, there's always Belgium and France.


49 posted on 09/20/2006 1:29:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: white trash redneck

Reminds me of the story about the British in India during the height of the colonial period (WHICH I KNOW I'VE POSTED ON OTHER THREADS, BUT I LOVE IT!). Seems a new Commander was sent to a region in India. The local holy man came to the Commander to welcome him and advise him of the local customs. He advised the Commander that there was a tradition in India that when a man died leaving a wife, a funeral pyre was built and the body of the deceased was cremated, together with his wife who was still very much alive.

The Commander politely listened and then said, "Really? We, too, have a charming custom in Great Britain. Whenever someone murders another human being, we build a gallows and hang the individual should he or she be found guilty. You may proceed with your funerals, and we sincerely hope the hammering won't disturb the mourners as we build the gallows." Ah, for the good old days when you could actually say that and get away with it.


50 posted on 09/20/2006 1:41:12 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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