Skip to comments.SENATE FENCE BILL: VOTE 94-0 IN FAVOR OF CLOTURE
Posted on 09/20/2006 2:44:11 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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Sad to say but my two senators from Texas a against this bill. See what they do.
Wow. This is amazing. Obviously the bill is going to pass big time. I never thought this would happen. Hopefully they appropriate the money to build it. That might be the kicker in all this. I guess election year politics did it.
IMO of course
LOL. Bug zapper on steroids. Works for me.
This is confusing. I thought, last I heard, that the Senate had voted to not fund a fence...
THE SENATE ARE A WORTHLESS LOST OF POS's!!! They're being "lobbied" (to put it nicely) by representatives from Mexico as we speak.
Why pay any attention to them?
Our immigration laws are not being enforced and, without the WALL that we needed decades ago, we don't even have a BORDER!
Hasta la vista, U.S.A.
LOL, lots of D's on that list. Kerry's non-vote may come back to bite him in the backside if he thinks he's going to run for Prez. Hillary voted, he didn't. Sounds like ammunition for a future campaign.
Well, if Congress won't fund it, maybe we could hold a national telethon and citizens could raise money and pay for it ourselves :)
So what do YOU want to do to close the border? The fence is a pretty good start.
That's a great idea...
Huh? When do Republicans hit them hard on anything? All that whining that the GOP was "questioning the patriotism" of Max Cleland because of his votes on Homeland Security has cowed our strategists for the next generation or two. Someone might call them mean-spirited or something.
I see that Hawaii doesn't care if we build a fence.
All those not voting are Democrats. Wimps.
94-0 Something must b showing in polls.
We need another party, one really focused on this issue. But because the polity is divided on everything else, we won't get one. People can't decide that border security is at least as important as being for or against abortion, marijuana, or charter schools. So, a "protect the country" focused party that is agnostic on these other issues won't pick up the votes.
So slimy, these pukes.
Don't give us the real thing, give us crumbs.
How about we virtually vote for them?
Uh no. It is a good first step, gets us closer to a full fence, establishes a precedent that can easily demonstrate the effectiveness of a fence, and reduces the number of hurdles future sessions will have to get over to finish the job. Just like the first states to roll back gun control mesures led to other states following suit. Nowadays in most states even the Dems don't run on stricter gun control.
Not that anyone expected the professional bitch and moaners here to ever acknowledge progress. We darn sure wouldn't have gotten even this much with a Dem congress, and anyone who would cite this as a reason to sit out the election/vote 3rd party and let the Dems take power is a complete fool.
Thats a great idea.
As long as the money isn't just a line on the general budget, but a sequestered account, with no provisos for "borrowing".
"(b) Operational Control Defined- In this section, the term `operational control' means the prevention of all unlawful entries into the United States, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics, and other contraband."
I can't help wondering how much the possible impairment of the flow of narcotics has hindered progress toward closing the borders.
Lets hope they listen. Anytime something passes XX-O I know its full of hot air and "comprehensive" legislation.
A ten persent grade isn't much at all. That make this a huge exception.
Okay, so I understand this version/bill has already passed the House? Now, the Senate is moving to vote on it? And it looks like it will pass the Senate? Next question. Will Bush sign it? He better.
Apparently, Boeing has been awarded a contract to secure the border with 1800 "hi-tech" towers". Don't how this fits in with a fence:
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said, "While I've made it clear that I prefer a comprehensive solution, I have always said we need an enforcement-first approach to immigration reform."
If it doesn't deal with anchor babies, it isn't comperehensive.
Simply put, the elected members of the senate are cowards.
The bigger problem is that not enough of them are conservatives.
And we can blame Arkansas, North Dakota, and West Virginia for being three Red states that each have two liberal Senators. There's six conservatives missing from the Senate.
Then we can blame Indiana, Louisiana, Montana, and South Dakota, and Nebraska for sending one liberal Senator from their Red State. That's five more right there.
That's a total of eleven Senators that should be conservatives who are instead Liberals.
And that is without looking at Purple States.
This sounds like an excellent idea. I might even check off on something like this, although I never checked off on the election fund thats on the IRS form now.
We need to keep a very close eye on this one.
How about allowing the Border Patrol and National Guard to do their job? Giving them the tools to do it well; not arresting them for doing it as best they can with their hands tied behind their backs.
Not Voting - 6
Those are just six reasons why I've had my tagline so long,
and why it has been, and always will be, current.
Now let's vote to send back 11 million illegal aliens that are consuming way too much U.S. gasoline. WELLA-we've lowered our demand for Arab fuel.
Who is the complete fool? Thems fightin' words, DES! And who would "sit out" an election? I haven't done that in 54 years if voting, though I will admit there have been times I've been sorely tempted. Lighten up.
Good idea. ;o)
They can't fund it? How do you know this? Congress can give itself the authority to borrow as much as they want. If they weren't allowed to go into the red, the US either would be in default right now or there would be some serious spending cuts.
Complete with amnesty. I am amazed at how many Americans demand a fence. simply because the Federal government has failed to perform the job that they are tasked, and funded, to perform. Where is the hue and cry over a "land grab" to build a useless fence/wall on private property? How about imposing upon MEXICO the responsibility to administer their side of the border? Or build a freakin wall on the south side of the border. If it is so effective.
"Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada countered, "We can build the tallest fence in the world and it won't fix our broken immigration system." To do that, he said, "we need the kind of comprehensive reform that the Senate passed earlier this year." "
I say this in response to Sen. Hugo Reid: We spend much more than a couple Billion bucks a year providing health care, schooling, law enforcement, etc. as a result of these illegals. Building a wall will not keep out everyone; on that single point you are right, Sen. Hugo. However, it will keep the Mama and the bambino's out since they won't want to risk the wall. If Papa is in the U.S. illegally, most of those Papas will go back to Mexico to be with Mama and the bambinos. If the entire family is here, they won't leave. Pretty tough to figure out, isn't it?
BUILD THE WALL!!! The costs avoided will pay for the wall inside of one year and the on-going problem will be greatly diminished - look at the Israeli situation.
Because this way, the senators who did not vote will have their names recorded..and thus provides some fuel for Repubs.
They were saved from the Phantom Filabuster.
Transfer funds that would normally go to services for illegal aliens, to building the fence. Set up a bank account specifically for the fence. I'd donate and think others would too.
Just in time for the general election. Some mid termers might skate, but by the time the general election rolls around if we don't see a fence. there could be repercussions! woohoo!
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