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Republicans Reach Deal on Detainee Bill
NY Times ^ | 9/22/06 | KATE ZERNIKE

Posted on 09/21/2006 7:49:24 PM PDT by nj26

The Bush administration and Congressional Republicans reached agreement Thursday on legislation governing the treatment and interrogation of terror suspects after weeks of debate that divided Republicans heading into the midterm elections.

Under the deal, President Bush dropped his demand that Congress redefine the nation’s obligations under the Geneva Conventions, handing a victory to a group of Republicans, including Senator John McCain...

“There is no doubt that the integrity and the letter and the spirit of the Geneva Conventions have been preserved,” said Mr. McCain, who was tortured during more than five years as a prisoner in North Vietnam...

On another point of contention, the use of classified evidence in prosecutions of terror suspects, the senators won agreement that suspects would be allowed to see any evidence the jury sees, which the senators say is in keeping with 200 years of American judicial tradition. But the agreement includes procedures that would strip the evidence of the most sensitive details that lawmakers have worried could be used to plan more attacks...

The agreement says the executive branch is responsible for upholding the nations’ commitment to the Geneva Conventions, leaving it to the president to establish through executive rule any violations for the handling of terror suspects that fall short of a “grave breach.” Significantly, Senate aides said, those rules would have to be published in the Federal Register.

The agreement provides several pages describing “grave breaches” that would not be allowed, starting with torture and including other forms of assault and mental stress. But it does not lay out specific interrogation techniques that would be prohibited.

The agreement would not allow any evidence obtained by techniques that violate the Detainee Treatment Act, and would not allow hearsay evidence that the defense successfully argues is not reliable or probative.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 200609; cia; detaineetreatmentact; genevaconventions; interrogation
Seems as if McCain got a lot of changes...

Interesting to see if the Dems support this watered-down bill or block it with filibuster (which would probably be political suicide)

1 posted on 09/21/2006 7:49:25 PM PDT by nj26
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To: nj26

Double post... please delete


2 posted on 09/21/2006 7:50:09 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: AFPhys; Pukin Dog; Howlin; oceanview; Mo1; mystery-ak

ping


3 posted on 09/21/2006 8:00:20 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: nj26

Bush got what he wanted. The other guys got two hotels and Baltic Avenue.


4 posted on 09/21/2006 8:02:03 PM PDT by zarf
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To: nj26

"handing a victory to a group of Republicans, including Senator John McCain..."

Barf! NYSlimes spin..


5 posted on 09/21/2006 8:06:43 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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Barf! NYSlimes spin..

I fully agree ref: NYT spin; however, another source writes:

Bush, GOP Rebels Agree on Detainee Bill Sep 21, 10:51 PM (ET) By ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House and rebellious Senate Republicans announced agreement Thursday on rules for the interrogation and trial of suspects in the war on terror. President Bush urged Congress to put it into law before adjourning for the midterm elections. The agreement contains concessions by both sides, though the White House yielded ground on two of the most contentious issues. The Bush administration agreed to drop one provision narrowly interpreting international standards of prisoner treatment and another allowing defendants to be convicted on evidence they never see. The accord, however, explicitly states the president has the authority to enforce Geneva Convention standards and enumerates acts that constitute a war crime, including torture, rape, biological experiments and cruel and inhuman treatment. White House officials said these provisions would provide the CIA the clarity it needs to continue with its interrogation program. The pact follows more than a week of squabbling among Republicans that had threatened to derail an anti-terrorism agenda put together by the White House and GOP leaders going into the Nov. 7 elections. It was announced at a time when support for Bush's proposal in the GOP-run Congress had been crumbling, but the agreement could lead to enactment of one of Bush's top remaining priorities of the year. The House and Senate are expected to vote next week on the legislation. "I'm pleased to say that this agreement preserves the single most potent tool we have in protecting America and foiling terrorist attacks," the president said after the agreement was announced. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, one of three GOP lawmakers who told Bush he couldn't have the legislation the way he initially asked for it, said the deal "gives the president the tools he needs to continue to fight the war on terror and bring these evil people to justice." "There's no doubt that the integrity and letter and spirit of the Geneva Conventions have been preserved," McCain said, referring to the international treaties covering the treatment of prisoners in wartime. CIA Director Michael Hayden praised the deal a week after saying his agency needed to be onfident that its interrogation program for high-value terror suspects is legal. "If this language becomes law, the Congress will have given us the clarity and the support that we need to move forward with a detention and interrogation program that allows us to continue to defend the homeland, attack al-Qaida and protect American and allied lives," he wrote to CIA personnel.

Which means, "water boards are in!"


6 posted on 09/21/2006 8:20:43 PM PDT by Y0K (Loose Hips Dig Clinton Lips)
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"The accord, however, explicitly states the president has the authority to enforce Geneva Convention standards and enumerates acts that constitute a war crime, including torture, rape, biological experiments and cruel and inhuman treatment."

You are a terrorist and you are sentenced to death by firing squad. EOM!


7 posted on 09/21/2006 9:39:07 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: nj26

McCain caved. NY Slimes are lying again.


8 posted on 09/22/2006 12:13:16 AM PDT by Mogollon
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