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The Color of His Skin: Would Barack Obama be even considered for President if he were white ?
New York Sun ^ | 09/22/2006 | JOHN McWHORTER

Posted on 09/22/2006 9:58:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

The Color of His Skin

Imagine him white.

Barack Obama, that is. Amidst all the glowing talk about the possibility of his becoming America's first black president in 2008, it's an interesting thought experiment to imagine whether Mr. Obama would elicit this swooning buzz if he were white.

That is, let's imagine a white guy with all of Mr. Obama's pluses: crinkly smile, sincere concern for the little man, fine speech a couple of years ago about bringing the nation together, a certain charisma, wrote a touching autobiography. Let's call him Barrett O'Leary.

I do not think Mr. O'Leary would be touted a year-and-change into his Senate appointment as a presidential possibility. No knock on Mr. Obama intended, mind you. For all we know, he could have the genius for national statesmanship of a Disraeli. The point is that we don't know yet. Like any new senator, Mr. Obama has been quietly learning his way around the byzantine procedures of Senate lawmaking.

The key factor that galvanizes people around the idea of Obama for president is, quite simply, that he is black. Other things about him don't hurt, but that's all — they are not the deciding factor. Take away Mr. Obama's race and he's some relatively anonymous rookie. Barrett O'Leary, even if as cute and articulate as Mr. Obama, would have to wait at least another four years, and possibly six or seven, before being considered as a possible commander in chief.

What gives people a jolt in their gut about the idea of President Obama is the idea that it would be a ringing symbol that racism no longer rules our land. President Obama might be, for instance, a substitute for that national apology for slavery that some consider so urgent.

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1 posted on 09/22/2006 9:58:10 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

And then there's the question what if his mama hadn't named him after looking in her bowl of alphabet soup.


2 posted on 09/22/2006 10:01:13 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: SirLinksalot
becoming America's first black president in 2008,

I thought Bill Clinton was our first Black President.

3 posted on 09/22/2006 10:01:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SirLinksalot

He'd be Dan Quayle. By the way, the only parent I have seen supporting him is his White Mother. I wonder if she ever got kicked out of a Kwaanza celebration?


4 posted on 09/22/2006 10:02:26 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: SirLinksalot

Or ugly?


5 posted on 09/22/2006 10:02:45 AM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: SirLinksalot

In one word, NO.


6 posted on 09/22/2006 10:02:54 AM PDT by kalee
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To: dfwgator
I thought Bill Clinton was our first Black President.

I think they're talking about the kind of blackness that doesn't wash off.

7 posted on 09/22/2006 10:03:12 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SirLinksalot

A year and some change and he has already done more and probably attended more days than J"Effing"Kerry has in his entire senate career.

But that just makes him adequate(i.e. attending and doing his job) and not Presidential material. Way to soon to say he has what it takes.


8 posted on 09/22/2006 10:03:49 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: SirLinksalot

Or short? Or fat? Or short, fat, and ugly?


9 posted on 09/22/2006 10:03:56 AM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: SirLinksalot

He's a socialist, what else matters?


10 posted on 09/22/2006 10:04:02 AM PDT by Disturbin
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To: mtbopfuyn

Wait until the Washington Post digs into his past and finds out that he's part Jewish...

... oh wait, he's a democrat...

... nevermind


11 posted on 09/22/2006 10:04:13 AM PDT by TOWER
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To: SirLinksalot

Why are they making this about color? Thomas Sowell isn't white either and I'd vote for him in a heartbeat!


12 posted on 09/22/2006 10:05:13 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: SirLinksalot

Were Obama all white, he'd be considered a skinny smooth-talking albeit slow-witted guy who looks somewhat like a chimp.


13 posted on 09/22/2006 10:05:37 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: BookaT

He confused Josh Belton for John Bolton during Bolton's confirmation hearings. That's all I need to know that he's a lightweight.


14 posted on 09/22/2006 10:06:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SirLinksalot
President Obama might be, for instance, a substitute for that national apology for slavery that some consider so urgent.
As President he might make that apology. On behalf of all of his. Directed towards all African-Americans. Including himself.

It will be a Grand Statement of Self-Referential Regret, such as the world has never seen. Almost worth electing him for. (Or maybe not.)

15 posted on 09/22/2006 10:07:25 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: SirLinksalot

He would be laughed out of politics.


16 posted on 09/22/2006 10:07:29 AM PDT by billhilly (DU Funnies pingee # 911)
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To: massgopguy

He's a better speaker than Dan.

The Dems would just treat him as a young JFK/RFK-- smart and idealistic and charismatic.


17 posted on 09/22/2006 10:07:30 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: BufordP

Or short?


18 posted on 09/22/2006 10:09:30 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: mtbopfuyn

I saw him on CNN speaking in Iowa the other day. Compared to the other people in the Dem Race he appears to be much more exciting.

He is young, not bad looking, has a great story etc

What is the difference between him and John Edwards in reality


19 posted on 09/22/2006 10:09:41 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: massgopguy
By the way, the only parent I have seen supporting him is his White Mother.

Since he has no control over that, it is not his fault and I decline to hold it against him. But his socialist positions are another matter!

20 posted on 09/22/2006 10:10:31 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Chi-townChief
a skinny smooth-talking albeit slow-witted guy who looks somewhat like a chimp.

That's pretty much how they describe the current president over at DU, except the smooth-talking part.

21 posted on 09/22/2006 10:10:45 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: JZelle
Why are they making this about color?

The whole point of the article is that Obama is being touted as "presidential material" by liberals and the media only because of his skin color.

It would be hard to write an article about that reality without mentioning Obama's skin color.

22 posted on 09/22/2006 10:11:07 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SirLinksalot

In reference to international relations, he has virtually NO experience and I doubt anyone overseas would seriously set down across the table from him.
He's a socialist Rat pig. The Rats are the only ones that give a Rats ass if he's 'black'.


23 posted on 09/22/2006 10:11:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: SirLinksalot

Yes because he is incredibly PC.


24 posted on 09/22/2006 10:11:59 AM PDT by sauropod ("Work as if you were to live 100 Years, Pray as if you were to die To-morrow." - Ben Franklin)
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To: dfwgator
He confused Josh Belton for John Bolton during Bolton's confirmation hearings. That's all I need to know that he's a lightweight.

He's like that on the Senate floor also

25 posted on 09/22/2006 10:12:23 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: Chi-townChief
Were Obama all white, he'd be considered a skinny smooth-talking albeit slow-witted guy who looks somewhat like a chimp.

Oh, you mean a used car salesman.

26 posted on 09/22/2006 10:12:38 AM PDT by scooter2
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To: SirLinksalot
Amidst all the glowing talk about the possibility of his becoming America's first black president in 2008, it's an interesting thought experiment to imagine whether Mr. Obama would elicit this swooning buzz if he were white.

If he were white he'd be a complete non-entity. He certainly wouldn't be a Senator and even if he were, his complete lack of accomplishments would preclude any talk of the White House. He's a big nothing.

27 posted on 09/22/2006 10:14:03 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: SirLinksalot

How can it be an apology for slavery to elect a man whose ancestors weren't slaves? They are African immigrants. I say elect Ken Blackwell to set the record straight--that the Republican party has always been the party of free blacks, and it is time to set them free once again from Democrat institutions that enslave them, this time, the welfare state and quota systems. Democrats gave blacks first slavery, then Jim Crow, poll taxes and segregation, then welfare, ghettos and unwed motherhood. Republicans existed to end slavery, and once they did, they gave blacks freedom, and said here you go, now use it. Dems took that freedom away again as soon as they had the power. So, remind me now, why do blacks vote 90 percent Democrat?


28 posted on 09/22/2006 10:14:22 AM PDT by Defiant (There is no god but AOL, and Muhammad uses Messenger.)
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To: JZelle
Why are they making this about color?

Because his whole career IS about color. Nobody would notice the guy if he were a white man.

29 posted on 09/22/2006 10:15:41 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: JZelle

Thomas Sowell wouldn't be "black enough" for some people....like the article says.

IOW, if a black person is a Republican, that makes them "not black enough".


30 posted on 09/22/2006 10:16:05 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Post 9/11, I doubt anyone named Obama would be considered regardless of race.


31 posted on 09/22/2006 10:17:05 AM PDT by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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To: pgkdan
Barack Obama is black?
32 posted on 09/22/2006 10:18:50 AM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: massgopguy

"...the only parent I have seen supporting him is his White Mother."

Where's his daddy? Do we know?


33 posted on 09/22/2006 10:20:40 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Izzy Dunne
" I think they're talking about the kind of blackness that doesn't wash off."

Clinton's blackness doesn't wash off.

34 posted on 09/22/2006 10:21:03 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: SirLinksalot

Obama, for all the shilling the media will do for him, is a pretty hard left. The MSM thinks it can put its person in as President with their propaganda, as they did with Clinton in 1992. They don't have that power anymore.

If the Dems were serious about a black President, they would have told Harold Ford to stay in the House and give him a committee chairmanship for visibility.


35 posted on 09/22/2006 10:21:46 AM PDT by fireman43
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To: SirLinksalot
I've known President Palmer. President Palmer was my friend every Wednesday night. Mr. Obama, you're no President Palmer!!!
36 posted on 09/22/2006 10:22:21 AM PDT by aShepard (Maybe the UN should donate UNICEF proceeds to the Gates Foundation, and fold!)
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To: drubyfive

Yeah, we had quite a discussion here with our liberal friends winding up displeased, to say the least >>> http://www.network54.com/Forum/243655/thread/1137530908/last-1138808492/Clinton+Slams+Bush%2C+White+House+in+Harlem


37 posted on 09/22/2006 10:22:54 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: jdm

38 posted on 09/22/2006 10:26:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: SirLinksalot
We could just as easily elect Condi and kill off two canards with one stone. There was a time when light-skinned African Americans would do their best to pass themselves off as white because of the disadvantages being black had in America. Now, anyone with some African heritage uses that fact for the advantages it has. That should tell us a lot about the progress we've made. Take away the self-inflicted wounds that come from Liberalism and its kooky self-destructive culture (drug abuse, sexual promiscuity, self-pity, despair, victimhood) and black Americans would have outpaced nearly all other groups in America. It's odd that the paradox of Liberal sympathy and its consequences isn't clear to more people. Naturally, the Democratic Party and the MSM must maintain the myth that most Americans are secret Klans men and Republicans hate blacks.
39 posted on 09/22/2006 10:29:53 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Civilization and democracy are under attack around the world, so Liberals attack Bush.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Excellent question...


40 posted on 09/22/2006 10:30:02 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: SirLinksalot

NO.........NO...A THOUSAND TIMES, NO!!!


41 posted on 09/22/2006 10:31:05 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Is America ready for a president with a muslim name?
President Barack Hussein Obama?


42 posted on 09/22/2006 10:32:37 AM PDT by Isabelle
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To: dead

The "color of his skin" makes him bulletproof!! You could never criticize him for anything!!


43 posted on 09/22/2006 10:33:41 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Not if Hillary has anything to do with it.


44 posted on 09/22/2006 10:33:44 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SirLinksalot
Just proves how racist the democrats are. Even more proof is that this guy is half white with light skin (another generation would have called him "high yaller").

He's a "safe Negro".

If he looked like Idi Amin, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

"What hypocrites these liberals be."

45 posted on 09/22/2006 10:36:30 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Aside from the obvious immaturity of it, I have no objection to anyone comparing a politician to a chimp, unless that person is also an evolution-denier, in which case they are hypocritical. My opinion is we all have chimpish characteristics.


46 posted on 09/22/2006 10:36:41 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: SirLinksalot

He wouldn't but we need to be careful about making the same mistake with Condi Rice. I've commented several times that nobody on here would be talking her up were it not for the color of her skin.


47 posted on 09/22/2006 10:40:42 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Diogenesis
He looks like Gilbert Gottfried, to me.

[and with just 4 more steps, we can somehow connect him to Kevin Bacon]...;]

48 posted on 09/22/2006 10:42:16 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.........)
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To: Isabelle

Oh darn, I thought it was an Irish name Barach O'Bama


49 posted on 09/22/2006 10:49:10 AM PDT by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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To: JimRed

"By the way, the only parent I have seen supporting him is his White Mother."

Since she's dead, that's quite a feat.


50 posted on 09/22/2006 10:49:16 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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