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Detroit schools try to avert crippling student loss (Strike Costs 25,000 Students, $190 Million)
Detroit Free Press | 9/22/06

Posted on 09/22/2006 10:38:08 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside

Detroit, Michigan

9/22/06

(my summary)

Detroit schools were closed due to an illegal teachers strike.

The parents revolted and 25,000 kids left the district.

Now the Detroit school district will lose $190 million in state aid.

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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006609220339


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1 posted on 09/22/2006 10:38:08 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
Memo to Detroit Teachers:

Actions have consequences.

2 posted on 09/22/2006 10:40:10 AM PDT by TChris (The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

The government, will simply raise taxes to cover the shortfall instead of sueing the unions out of business.


3 posted on 09/22/2006 10:40:43 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Mr. Brightside

A mother of a friend of mine used to work for the DPS, and the stories she told would curl your hair. Good riddance, I say.


4 posted on 09/22/2006 10:41:11 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: TChris

Sue the teachers' Union for the losses. It's the "American Way"


5 posted on 09/22/2006 10:41:12 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Mr. Brightside

Well there seemed to have been around 25,000 mature adults in Detroit prior to the strike. I wonder what took them so long to figure the Detroit schools were organized madness??


6 posted on 09/22/2006 10:41:42 AM PDT by tigtog
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To: mvpel

BTW, only about 20 percent of Detroit's freshmen graduate.


7 posted on 09/22/2006 10:43:38 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
BTW, only about 20 percent of Detroit's freshmen graduate.

If ever I've heard a justification for ending the public school system....

8 posted on 09/22/2006 10:48:53 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: American Quilter

Imagine what they would say if only 20 percent of the homeschoolers graduated.


9 posted on 09/22/2006 10:50:04 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
BTW, only about 20 percent of Detroit's freshmen graduate.

this reflects a parenting problem, also.

10 posted on 09/22/2006 10:51:22 AM PDT by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

I am in the Detroit area(Lincoln Park)......here is my understanding from local news reports: State aid is based on X amount of $ per student enrolled on a certain day ......fewer students=less $ ........sounds like they did it to themselves


11 posted on 09/22/2006 10:53:31 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: edcoil

the consequences of 50 years of liberalism are devastating. definition of insanity = continuing to do something that has proven not to work.


12 posted on 09/22/2006 10:55:20 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: Mr. Brightside

Detroit has become Cuba.


13 posted on 09/22/2006 10:57:08 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

But all the teachers and all the administrators and all the coaches will continue to be paid and they will continue to complain about not making enough money.


14 posted on 09/22/2006 10:57:14 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: shooter223

Stupid In America - John Stossel

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=1500338


15 posted on 09/22/2006 10:59:10 AM PDT by adm5
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To: Mr. Brightside

Of course the teacher union head denies they bear any responsibility at all.....

Maybe this kind of sudden "shock treatment" which will require dramatic layoffs could be an opportunity for reform, but I seriously doubt it. Since the very people deciding about the layoffs will be a big part of the problem, the worst hacks and deadwood will be kept on, administrators with fat salaries, etc.

Detroit as a whole seems to be in terminal decline, and this is just one more symptom of the disaster.


16 posted on 09/22/2006 11:08:42 AM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Mr. Brightside

The very idea that teachers have a "right" to strike is insanity....

Should all be summarily fired.


17 posted on 09/22/2006 11:09:59 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Mr. Brightside
My summary since no posting is allowed from Detroit Free Press.

How ironic that we can't post from a site called "freep."

18 posted on 09/22/2006 11:11:14 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: TChris
Memo to Detroit Teachers:

Don't send any memo.

As Napoleon suppossedly said:
"When your enemy is busy destroying himself, do nothing!"
19 posted on 09/22/2006 11:12:55 AM PDT by VOA
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To: TChris

The parents left the schools?? hahaha, there is nothing like capitalism. You provide the service. We pay for it. If we don't like it, we take our business elsewhere. You suffer.

I like it. Simple but so straight-forward.


20 posted on 09/22/2006 11:15:21 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: edcoil

We in the peoples democratik republik of michigan already pay some of the highest taxes in the land.....


21 posted on 09/22/2006 11:16:01 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: shooter223

Yes, each school gets $4000 (or more) per student per year. If they don't have the enrollment, they don't get the money. The clients FLED. Close the school. Perfect solution.


22 posted on 09/22/2006 11:16:33 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: edcoil
Detroit was just handed over to the Islamists .. they own Hamtramk, and now a real, live empty city is up for grabs.

You don't think there's Islamo-cash for the taking?

You're not paying attention.

That's the northern border with seaports.

@$$hole, phuqin' NEA.

Ya' let us down Newt ... Pubbies ... we were contenders !!!

23 posted on 09/22/2006 11:16:40 AM PDT by knarf (Muslims kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

>> Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick <<

So, the mayor is Irish?

(just silliness.)


24 posted on 09/22/2006 11:19:29 AM PDT by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: RexBeach
Detroit has become Cuba.

It's worse than that. Detroit is becoming even more a caricature of itself. I just couldn't be happier than when a union's decisions blow up like a grenade in the small intestine. I hope the untrained animals get what's coming to them.

25 posted on 09/22/2006 11:27:23 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Liberals are the Mongol hordes destroying America from within.)
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To: edcoil

I didn't know street people paid taxes.


26 posted on 09/22/2006 11:30:07 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......sniff, cough, hahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...............oh, it hurts............hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........whew....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa...........stop, stop, I can't take it..........hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..............I got tears in my eyes.......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..........ohhhhh, my stomach hurts.......hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....................

:}

27 posted on 09/22/2006 11:46:43 AM PDT by AwesomePossum
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To: Mr. Brightside

AAAAAAAARRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG


28 posted on 09/22/2006 11:48:01 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Awesome! Can we please have another teacher's strike? ANYTHING that shrinks the public school system is a good thing.


29 posted on 09/22/2006 12:09:06 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mr. Brightside

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006609220339

You can post a link


30 posted on 09/22/2006 12:14:48 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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To: HamiltonJay

Everybody has a right strike, but nobody has a right to remain employed at a job they went on strike from.


31 posted on 09/22/2006 12:15:01 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

"Awesome! Can we please have another teacher's strike? ANYTHING that shrinks the public school system is a good thing."

They will just transfer to other public schools, you have that option in Michigan and the $6700 in funding per child goes to the new school.


32 posted on 09/22/2006 12:22:22 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

No, you have a right to walk off your job.. you don't have a right to do that and then claim you are still employed.


33 posted on 09/22/2006 12:35:36 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: VOA

The school district should sue the teachers union for $190 million.


34 posted on 09/22/2006 12:37:07 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: edcoil
The government, will simply raise taxes to cover the shortfall instead of sueing the unions out of business.

Not if Dick DeVos wins the governor's race. The Republicans in the Michigan Legislature have proposed a bill to make it easier to assess fines to the illegal striking teachers. They will each have to pay a fine equivalent to a day's pay for every day they remain on strike.

That ought to shorten their strikes.

35 posted on 09/22/2006 12:42:36 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: knarf
Detroit was just handed over to the Islamists .. they own Hamtramk, and now a real, live empty city is up for grabs.

I don't know about that. The Eastside is rapidly filling up with Chinese - most of them are coming from New York because they found out how cheap they can buy a house in Detroit. There is an enclave of them in the Greiner/Outer Drive/Gratiot area and it is growing all the time.

37 posted on 09/22/2006 12:48:03 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: michigander

I appreciate the details but I don't think that Detroit News/Free Press is allowed to be posted here.

I don't know if FR doesn't want their trash, or if Gannet has a copywright issue with the stories being posted.


38 posted on 09/22/2006 1:12:16 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: rj45mis

All schools should be private, K-12 to college to graduate schools. The government should get out of the education business. Parents should incorporate new private elementary, middle and high schools, removing states and counties from the business of educating their children. Remove government subsidies and teachers' unions.


39 posted on 09/22/2006 1:16:15 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Tokra
You would have a better feel for this than I ... I guess the last week or two has me extremely paranoid and angry.

It just burns me up that the inbreds get all this airplay and ink and we banter and discuss the this, that and the other and all the time ..in the back of my mind .. I hear the word marching ...

Incrementalism ....
Incrementalism ....
Incrementalism !

40 posted on 09/22/2006 1:26:19 PM PDT by knarf (Muslims kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: TChris
But...but....but....they did it for THE CHILDREN!!!!

I actually heard one of the strikers say that this strike was for the children. What a load of pooey.

41 posted on 09/22/2006 1:48:32 PM PDT by Mrs. P (I am most seriously displeased. - Lady Catherine de Bourg)
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To: Mr. Brightside; Admin Moderator
It seems you are correct.

I did a no-no with the Detroit News article at reply #36, sorry 'bout that.

42 posted on 09/22/2006 1:56:50 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: edcoil

Why do they need the money if they don't have kids to teach?


43 posted on 09/22/2006 2:00:29 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: edcoil
"The government, will simply raise taxes to cover the shortfall instead of sueing the unions out of business."

Thats one of the problems. There's not many tax payers left in Detroit.

44 posted on 09/22/2006 2:03:22 PM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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BTW, only about 20 percent of Detroit's freshmen graduate.

I thought you were exaggerating.

Among the nation's 50 largest districts, the study finds, three graduate fewer than 40%: Detroit (21.7%), Baltimore (38.5%) and New York City (38.9%).
45 posted on 09/22/2006 2:07:48 PM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: Tokra

Source please?


46 posted on 09/22/2006 2:39:13 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: The Old Hoosier

pensions.


47 posted on 09/22/2006 8:44:53 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Mr. Brightside

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!


48 posted on 09/22/2006 9:21:21 PM PDT by therut
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To: bboop
Yes, each school gets $4000 (or more) per student per year.

Actually, its more like $7,450 to $11,631 per pupil, Cite

That x 25,000 is a crippling amount of money to add to the $105,000,000 deficit that sparked the conflict in the first place. Yet another example of an idiot union slitting its own members throats by refusing to see past next weeks paycheck. Its like Delphi all over again.

49 posted on 09/23/2006 6:20:42 AM PDT by MichiganMan (Europe: Where the governments fear Muslims and Jews fear the governments.)
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To: shooter223
here is my understanding from local news reports: State aid is based on X amount of $ per student enrolled on a certain day ..

I have a teacher relative.

That person told me if the attendance falls below a certain figure(IIRC it is 96%), they actually went out on the street and dragged people in to bolster the attendance rolls.

50 posted on 09/23/2006 6:41:53 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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