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Vanity: Liberals attempt overthrow of US Constitution
Vanity | 9-22-06 | Thanatos

Posted on 09/22/2006 11:15:24 AM PDT by Thanatos

Who are "They"? They are 5th Columnist who have invaded and taken over the Democrat Party and who declare themselves "Progressives", "Moderates", and "Liberals", "They" are socialist who want the destruction of the US Government, Anti-American international forces who hate the idea of an American Super-Power and the will to defend Freedom and Liberty. "They" are those who are from the Left-Side of the Spectrum, "They" are people who are so far to the left that Communist and National Socialist look like Far Right Wingers. What are they doing? They are attempting to "Bypass" the constitution and not allow states to vote for who becomes President of the US. They want Political Parties and Illegal Immigrants to vote who becomes the US President. How will they do this? By Ignoring the Constraints of the US Constitution and take away the Electoral College. They have already taken too much power from the States by making Senators beholden to Political Parties instead of the States they come from, so now Senators completely ignore their own State Legislature and Governors when voting on Bills before the Federal Government.

It never fails, instead of abiding by the US Constitution, Liberals and Democrats attempt to Overthrow and bypass the Constitution on a daily basis. To pass a bill as unconstitutional as this is typical of the Liberal thinking of "There is no constitution, there is no law and order other then what we decided it to be at that moment in time".. The cry of "The Electoral College is outdated" is crap. The Constitution guarantee's us a "Republican" form of Government, in other words a Constitutional Republic. This means that Power to rule is imbedded in the people and not the government. The Electoral College guarantees that Local Governments rule the Federal Government, and in doing so, It is LOCAL Governments who choose who is the person to keep the States United “United” is placed into power. The Liberals have subverted congress by taking the power from the states to appoint their own Senators and placed it in the hands of liberal power groups like those paid for and operated by George Soros and out of the Local Government's hands. The Local Government is directly elected by and represents the Local People.. Now to have a State be represented in the Federal Government is totally impossible because the Appointment of Senators is now done at the Political Party Level and Not the State Government level. The House of Representatives is representative of the People in the Federal Government, the Senate is supposed to represent the States, but is now representative of Political Parties, and instead of allowing the States themselves a say on who rules the Union, Liberal Activist now want the President to be appointed by Political Parties. This is the 2nd step in the destruction of the United States as a Nation of the Republic. If this is allowed, it will become the Soviet Socialist States of America, and that will be anarchy. I personally think that every person in the California Legislature or any legislature who voted for this type of bill should be tried for Treason by the Federal Government for trying to overthrow the US Constitution.

As the Bill in (AB 2948, Umberg Electoral college: interstate compact) California has been passed by the State Legislature and is before the Governor of California, Contact the Governor of California and demand that He VETO this Bill and to raise such a stink in the Press that this bill is such full of Unconstitutional premises that the Liberals will not attempt this unconstitutional overthrow of the US Government by California Liberals again.:

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From Newsmax:

California May Subvert Electoral College

The California legislature has passed a bill to drastically change the way the president is elected – giving the state’s 55 electoral votes to the winner of the nationwide popular vote, regardless of the results within the state.

The bill is now on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s desk, and he has until Sept. 30 to decide whether to sign it.

"It would be a major development if California enacts this thing,” Tim Storey, an analyst for the National Conference of State Legislatures, told the New York Times.

The mechanism for changing the way Americans vote for the president without a constitutional amendment was devised by computer scientist John R. Koza, co-inventor of the scratch-off lottery ticket.

His brainstorm was to abandon efforts to amend the constitution and abolish the Electoral College, and instead focus on creating "interstate compacts” – contracts that bind states over issues like nuclear waste and port authorities.

In his capacity as chief executive of Scientific Games in Atlanta, Koza had learned how interstate compacts work.

"Multistate lotteries like Powerball are based on such compacts,” the Times reports. "What, he wondered, if a similar agreement bound states together to thwart the Electoral College.”

Koza’s compact, if approved by enough state legislatures, would commit state electors to vote for the candidate winning the most votes nationwide, thereby making an end run around the Electoral College.

"The bottom line is that the system has outlived its usefulness,” said Assemblyman Thomas J. Umberg, a Democrat who sponsored the California bill. "It’s past time that Americans should elect their president by direct vote of the people.”

Umberg said Schwarzenegger is giving the bill serious consideration.

A significant result of Koza’s plan would be a change in the way presidential campaigns are conducted.

"Now, the candidates spend almost all of their time in a handful of battleground states like Ohio and Florida and ignore the rest of the country,” he told the Times.

"This would force candidates to campaign nationally for every vote.”

The idea is not without its critics. Robert Hardaway, a professor of law at the University of Denver, said: "It’s legal, but it would be a terrible idea.

"Look at the trauma the country went through having a recount in Florida. Suppose what would happen, in the face of a close national election, if we had to have a recount in every little hamlet.”

And Jerry F. Hough, a professor of political science at Duke, said conservatives could oppose the effort as a liberal move to regain lost power, in light of Al Gore winning the popular vote in 2000: "I would say this is clearly in the face of Al Gore’s loss in 2000.”

From AP Wires:

Calif. lawmakers vote to give presidential electoral votes to nation's popular vote winner By ROBIN HINDERY Associated Press Writer 2006-08-31SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - The California Legislature passed a bill that would give California's 55 electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, rather than the candidate who captured the state _ but for now, the measure stands a slim chance of becoming reality.

That's because it could go into effect only if states with a combined total of 270 electoral votes, the number now required to win the presidency _ agree to the same process.

Similar legislation is pending in Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana and Missouri, which have a combined 50 electoral votes. With California's 55, the legislation would still be less than halfway there.

The movement is a reaction to the 2000 presidential contest, when Democrat Al Gore won the nationwide popular vote but lost the presidency to George W. Bush, who won more Electoral College votes. Gore also won California that year.

Democrats control the California Legislature. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, has yet to take a public position on the bill, passed Wednesday.

Supporters said the move would boost California's relevance in national elections. California is a key fundraising state for presidential candidates but is often not visited in general campaigning because it is safely Democratic.

"Candidates don't come to California," said Assemblyman Rick Keene of Chico, one of the few Republican supporters of the measure. "We are currently disenfranchised in the electoral process."

But many Republicans criticized the bill.

"This is a way of amending the Constitution through the backdoor," said Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, a Republican from Irvine.

Critics also argued that campaigning would focus on heavily populated areas at the expense of other parts of the state.

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KEYWORDS: ab2948; callegislation; electoralcollege; electoralvote; electoralvotes; nationalpopularvote; popularvote; vetobait

1 posted on 09/22/2006 11:15:26 AM PDT by Thanatos
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To: Thanatos

Doesn't this mean there is no point in the people of California voting? If the final electoral votes only go to the winner of the popular vote, who needs California's votes? And why would a state that is nearly 25% of the needed votes for president, a relatively solid blue state, give up its clout in the presidential arena to the rest of the country? By the all-or-nothing approach, California is basically in the D column all the time (Reagan the exception, but how many of his caliber have you seen lately?) This makes the state of California far more competitive, as well as meaning that presidents will be less beholden to California for reelection. This is a dumb idea from virtually any political standpoint, liberal or conservative, and is should be illegal from a Constitutional point of view.

2 posted on 09/22/2006 11:27:06 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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3 posted on 09/22/2006 8:44:57 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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