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U.S. fatalities in war equal those from Sept. 11
MSNBC ^ | September 22, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/22/2006 5:11:42 PM PDT by Polybius

U.S. fatalities in war equal those from Sept. 11 - Military deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan reach 2,973

WASHINGTON - Now the death toll is 9/11 times two.

U.S. military deaths from Iraq and Afghanistan now match those of the most devastating terrorist attack in America’s history, the trigger for what came next. Add casualties from chasing terrorists elsewhere in the world, and the total has passed the Sept. 11 figure.

The latest milestone for a country at war comes without commemoration. It also may well come without the precision of knowing who is the 2,973rd man or woman of arms to die in conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, or just when it happens. The terrorist attacks killed 2,973 victims in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

Not for the first time, war that was started to answer death has resulted in at least as much death for the country that was first attacked, quite apart from the higher numbers of enemy and civilians killed, too.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; ghouls; iraq; media; vultures; wot
The liberal news media has been anxiously waiting for this milestone and it has finally arrived: The deaths suffered while fighting the War on Terror have finally equaled the deaths of 9/11.

In a tone designed to demoralize the American Home Front, the article starts out, "Now the death toll is 9/11 times two."

To put things in historical perspective, at the end of World War Two, the death toll was Pearl Harbor times one hundred and seventy four.

1 posted on 09/22/2006 5:11:44 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Translation: If we had all acted like good Dhimmies after 9-11, there would have been no more loss of life.</barf>


2 posted on 09/22/2006 5:14:00 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Polybius

Or put another way: it took 5 years and 11 days for the number of casualties in the War in Iraq to equal the number of casualties in 90 minutes on 9-11-01.


3 posted on 09/22/2006 5:15:00 PM PDT by Prov3456
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To: Polybius

Some radio talkshow host predicted this,I forget his name;)


4 posted on 09/22/2006 5:15:32 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Prov3456

Yep.
And this time, were GIVING, not getting.


5 posted on 09/22/2006 5:18:53 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Polybius
And what's the ratio of terrorist scumbag fatalities relative to the 19 that died on Sept. 11?
6 posted on 09/22/2006 5:21:14 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: Polybius

The countdown to 3,000 begins.


7 posted on 09/22/2006 5:21:23 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Polybius

The MSM loves to make a big deal out of every milestone in death toll.


8 posted on 09/22/2006 5:21:35 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Polybius
Johnson Lied, 55,000 Died
9 posted on 09/22/2006 5:21:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Polybius

I knew they would celebrate it.


10 posted on 09/22/2006 5:22:32 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Polybius

To the liberal MSM: the difference is you and I are still living in a democracy and not in a Islamic(-fascistic) world...


12 posted on 09/22/2006 5:25:00 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: Polybius
Well, media weasel, since you're so interested in keeping your grim ledger, let's look at it another way. On 9/11, some 18 ragheads died, and took 3,000 innocent Americans with them. Those Americans died in offices and hallways and bathrooms and lobbies and elevators and stairwells.

Since then, well over 50,000 vermin have died, against those 3,000 American deaths. And the latter died in bunkers, trenches, Humvees, tanks, and barracks, patrolling a hostile land in the line of duty. And all so ANOTHER 3,000 Americans WON'T have to die in offices and hallways and stairwells.

We have succeeded in removing the asymmetry of this engagement.

Wars cost lives. Surrender costs more.

13 posted on 09/22/2006 5:25:08 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Polybius
The total death count in Iraq does not equal the total homicide rate in any five major cities in America in the same period.
14 posted on 09/22/2006 5:27:02 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Polybius

It is utterly meaningless to compare the number of Americans murdered on 9/11 with the number of soldiers that have died since in the War on Terror.

The juxtaposition is simply devoid of any logic or rational point of common comparison.

What WOULD BE meaningful would be to consider the number of Americans who very well might have been killed here at home, had President Bush not launched his relentless offensive.

What makes utter sense to anyone with a grasp of reality and human nature, is to continue to keep the muzzle of our guns in the faces of these scum in their OWN fetid sewer.


15 posted on 09/22/2006 5:27:21 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Made in USA
"Within 10 minutes of the ramps being lowered, [the leading] company had become inert, leaderless and almost incapable of action. Every officer and sergeant had been killed or wounded... It had become a struggle for survival and rescue". The division lost over 4000 casualties. ----- World War II / Omaha Beach

For more historical perspective, on 1 July 1916, the opening day of the Battle of Somme, the British army suffered 57,470 casualties which included 19,240 killed.

17 posted on 09/22/2006 5:33:57 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Prov3456

A little historical perspective:

D day Allied killed 2500

Antietam total killed 3650

Gettysburg " " 5600

Somme first day British " " 19200

Every US death in Iraq is a tragedy to his friends family and comrades. But from a historical perspective our loses in Iraq have been amazingly light. If we can't handle this a nation, we are really a paper tiger.


18 posted on 09/22/2006 5:34:50 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Polybius
And it took 5 years for professionally trained armed soldiers fighting terrorists, while in a span of less than 45 minutes we lost the same amount of unarmed civilians whom had little chance to defend themselves.

To you liberal crying donks out there that slither through these threads, yeah we are really losing the war on terror and we should retreat. * sarcasm off.
19 posted on 09/22/2006 5:45:36 PM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: Polybius
Even counting the souls who died on 9/11 as murder victims (they are NOT considered homicides in FBI crime statistics), the NYC homicide rate during the Giuliani (R) administration was still lower than it was during the previous Dinkins (D) administration.
20 posted on 09/22/2006 5:52:52 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Prov3456

Good perspective and point, P.


21 posted on 09/22/2006 5:54:00 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: All

"war that was started to answer death has resulted in at least as much death for the country that was first attacked, quite apart from the higher numbers of enemy and civilians killed, too."

Notice the equation that liberals would have the people buy. If you lose more warriors than the initial attack that started a war...the war is counterproductive.

Hmm, I wonder how long it took in WWII to lose the approximately 3,000 from Pearl Harbor.

They are blithering idiots and yes, liberalism is a mental disorder, a deviance, and a perversion devoid of rational thought.


22 posted on 09/22/2006 5:54:15 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Polybius

And? These people we have lost at war signed up for that duty. The victims of 911 did not. How dare the media compare the two.


23 posted on 09/22/2006 5:55:01 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Polybius

A pointless comparison.

God Bless all who served.


24 posted on 09/22/2006 5:55:21 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: mdittmar

Probably Rush. He's been bashing the media for their panting on American casualties as they hit 500 death milestones. The MSM/libs are disgusting. They've never taken a history class, or read a history book.


25 posted on 09/22/2006 6:04:32 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
And this time, were GIVING, not getting.

Huh?

26 posted on 09/22/2006 6:05:52 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Polybius

This is like noting the point when subsequent WWII combat deaths equalled Pearl Harbor. Was the war thereafter a failure?


27 posted on 09/22/2006 6:06:04 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: butternut_squash_bisque; Kozak

Thanks. Kozak (post 18) makes a great point also.


28 posted on 09/22/2006 6:14:27 PM PDT by Prov3456
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To: Polybius

U.S. casualties at Pearl Harbor: 2,403
U.S. casualties in WWII : 400,000

In WWII the ratio was almost 200 to 1.

Still, it is nice to see the A.P. admitting Iraq is part of the War on Terror, though I doubt that was their intent.


29 posted on 09/22/2006 6:24:32 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (The "missing links" in evolution are nothing compared to the extraneous links in intelligent design.)
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To: Polybius

Perspective....or roughly half of the number of people who die of food poisoning in a typical year.


30 posted on 09/22/2006 6:36:51 PM PDT by patriot_wes (Infant baptism - the foundation of an unbelieving and unsaved church.....)
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To: Polybius

These body counting vultures in the MSM rub their hands in glee every time a "milestone" death occurs.


31 posted on 09/22/2006 6:38:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: Polybius

But, since Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11, why would they...oh, never mind.

MSNBC on-line is spouts more Liberal garbage than their little cable network.


32 posted on 09/22/2006 7:04:17 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Polybius
U.S. fatalities in war equal those from Sept. 11

I guess this holds some kind of meaning to the pothead, girlymen news forcasters. Time to cut 'n' run? We only fight until we lose the same number of people murdered on 09-11. Then we go home. I can't believe anyone is idiotic enough to vote for DemocRATS. You have to be a real, braindead moron.

33 posted on 09/22/2006 7:06:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: Polybius

Most of the deaths are, unfortunately, due to accidents and friendly fire episodes. Actual deaths from enemy combatants are likely a third of the overall total.


34 posted on 09/22/2006 7:09:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Polybius

OTOH, on 9/11 the enemy death toll was 19, so they scored approx. 3000/19 or about 150:1 kill ratio.

They have not fared as well on the second 3000.


35 posted on 09/22/2006 8:53:03 PM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: SeaBiscuit

The war has been going on for five years. There is not a single living American captive in enemy hands. The moment they capture one of our guys, they start cutting parts off him until he is tortured to death. Then his body is dumped somewhere in the street.

The moment we capture one of their guys, he gets three religiously sensitive meals per day, a warm, comfortable bunk, a prayer mat, a sign pointing toward Mecca, and a copy of the Koran, carefully handled to preserve their religious sensitivities.


36 posted on 09/22/2006 9:35:33 PM PDT by cowdog77 ("Tell me, are there any men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: Polybius
I knew this was coming. But remember they predicted 10,000 deaths just in Afghan.
37 posted on 09/22/2006 9:37:33 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Polybius
Added keywords ghouls and vultures.
38 posted on 09/22/2006 9:38:14 PM PDT by dighton
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To: cowdog77

Yep, it makes me sick and enraged.., such as this barbarism: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1707038/posts


39 posted on 09/23/2006 5:40:28 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: IronJack

Well said Jack.


40 posted on 09/23/2006 5:43:02 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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