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Has the bubble burst?
News and Review ^ | Sep 21 06 | Sasha Abramsky

Posted on 09/22/2006 8:47:25 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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1 posted on 09/22/2006 8:47:26 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; jennyjenny; Larry Lucido; nopardons

The premise is false.


2 posted on 09/22/2006 8:48:20 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: churchillbuff

Do you spend a lot of time searching for articles to trash America with?


3 posted on 09/22/2006 8:49:21 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Petronski
Just look at the subtitle blurb:

A growing number of families like the Philbrooks are paying a high price to ditch unscrupulous financing and hold on to their homes. Others are walking away with nothing as the real-estate market slides locally.

Of course, it's the fault of "unscrupulous financing," not "punchdrunk borrowers" or "careless fools."

4 posted on 09/22/2006 8:51:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Howlin
Do you spend a lot of time searching for articles to trash America with?"""

America is a free-market economy that functions on supply and demand. It's not "trashing" America to be interested in how particular markets are faring at the moment. That's what this article is about. It's also a cautionary warning against taking out risky loans. It's not "trashing" America to offer that warning - I think Greenspan offered just such a warning at one point, and it amounts to common sense.

5 posted on 09/22/2006 8:53:04 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Petronski
This is liberal logic run amok.

I borrowed too much and I don't make any money... It must be somebody else's fault.

Yeah, that's it. They enticed me!

Fools and their money are soon parted!

6 posted on 09/22/2006 8:54:30 PM PDT by wireman
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To: churchillbuff

I'm not talking about America and her ills.

I'm talking about the fact that you virtually never post anything positive about this country; in fact, quite the opposite.


7 posted on 09/22/2006 8:54:31 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Petronski
I blame it on US imperialist aggression against the peaceful nation of Iraq and its firm but fair leader.

;-)

8 posted on 09/22/2006 8:54:35 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Petronski
Amen! There were more warnings about ARMS than Quaker has oats and still these people used them to purchase a primary residence with no thought of refinancing apparently.
9 posted on 09/22/2006 8:54:52 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: churchillbuff

They opted for an interest-only, adjustable-rate mortgage


first mistake.


10 posted on 09/22/2006 8:55:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar ("Being nice will get us killed")
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To: Petronski

I agree with you about the accusatory title: It blames lenders for borrowers' mistakes. Creative lending can be a great thing for people who calculate their capacity to pay if the rates go up. If people don't crunch the numbers, that's their mistake. In fact, the article itself makes it pretty clear that the borrowers took a risk, apparently without thinking it through enough.


11 posted on 09/22/2006 8:55:20 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Interest-only, adjustable-rate mortgage in an overpriced area.
Couple works three jobs, still can't pay mortgage.

They could buy a $60k home in fly-over country. California dreamin'

12 posted on 09/22/2006 8:56:13 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: churchillbuff

"In the Philbrooks' case, John and Karen borrowed almost the entirety of the $244,000 cost of their modest North Highlands home: One loan was written for $195,000 at 6.375-percent interest; another financed the remainder of nearly $45,000 at 9.125 percent. The rate on the small loan was fixed. But on the large loan, the rate was fixed for only two years, and after that it was variable"

There will be a TRILLION dollars in keys mailed back to the mortgage companies. And the fed will bail many out.


13 posted on 09/22/2006 8:56:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: churchillbuff

The bottom line is many people live beyond their means. Period.


14 posted on 09/22/2006 8:57:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: dighton

LOL!


15 posted on 09/22/2006 8:57:49 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Jet Jaguar

B U M P! They are probably toast. I say this with no animus. The borrowers were sucked in.


16 posted on 09/22/2006 8:57:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: churchillbuff

Did they review the "fine print"(i.e., the terms of the agreement)of the contracts with their attorney?

If not, why not?


17 posted on 09/22/2006 8:57:54 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (The concept: "Innocent until proven guilty" is correctly phrased: "Innocent UNLESS proven guilty")
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To: churchillbuff
Having not understood the small print of their contract...

I wouldn't rent a movie without understanding the small print of the contract...much less finance a house!

18 posted on 09/22/2006 8:58:19 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: rlmorel
The bottom line is many people live beyond their means"""

Unfortunately, in California, for many people, it's almost impossible to own a house without "living beyond their means." The state has become a place that's very unfriendly to the middle class. Socialism does that. Socialist places tend to be nice places to live - for the rich and the poor, but not for the middle class.

19 posted on 09/22/2006 8:59:31 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
There is a lot that is wrong with this article.

Fact is, these folks did not check out the deals and read the fine print.

20 posted on 09/22/2006 9:00:20 PM PDT by ikka
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