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Lowry: Score One for the Neanderthals on Immigration(Present!)
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/22/2006 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 09/23/2006 7:47:13 AM PDT by kellynla

When it comes to the border, we're all Neanderthals now.

When the amateur border guards, the Minutemen, first set up with their lawn chairs and binoculars at the U.S.-Mexico border and started talking about the need to build a fence, polite opinion scoffed. Now, the fence almost represents a consensus position, embraced by the left and right alike, from likely Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to the rabble-rousing pro-enforcement conservative Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado.

Sixty-four Democrats just voted with Republicans in the House to pass legislation authorizing 700 miles of double-layered fence along the border. The Senate recently voted 94-3 to spend nearly $2 billion on 370 miles' worth of fencing and will take up the House bill soon. As the panicked National Immigration Law Center says, ''In recent days, there has been a serious deterioration of the position of pro-immigrant forces in Congress.''

This political state of play is the exact reverse of what was widely predicted earlier in the year when illegal immigrants were marching in the streets; Hispanic and church groups were decrying the harsh treatment of illegals in a pro-enforcement House bill; and the Senate was passing an amnesty bill euphemistically dubbed ''comprehensive reform.'' Back then, it was assumed that the crazies in the House would bend to a Senate bill endorsed by all the great and the good. But a funny thing happened on the way to ''comprehensive reform'' - the political marketplace worked.

Instead of embracing the Senate approach, the House undertook field hearings around the country. The delay gave candidates a chance to sample public opinion that is markedly sympathetic to the crazies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; atzlan; borders; danehatesamerica; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; metrosexual; reconquista; richlowry
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To: Miss Marple
"I do not consider people concerned about border security "crazies" and Lowry is a fool for putting such a characterization in print.

Lowry used the word "crazies" and "neanderthals" with tongue firmly in cheek -- he's firmly in the pro-border security/fence camp.

21 posted on 09/23/2006 8:13:46 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
LOL!

You all are freakin bonkers. What part of the pro-tancredo article by #1 metrosexaul "conservative" did you not get?

22 posted on 09/23/2006 8:21:07 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: USS Alaska

He'd do a better job of protecting the border than Congress has been doing.


23 posted on 09/23/2006 8:22:55 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Dane

So you're taking issue with my observation that Lowry is taking a pro-border security, anti-illegals position? Your reputation for being an ignoramus is richly deserved.


24 posted on 09/23/2006 8:28:03 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
So you're taking issue with my observation that Lowry is taking a pro-border security, anti-illegals position? Your reputation for being an ignoramus is richly deserved.

As you refuse to amswer the question posited by me in reply #6 of this thread.

25 posted on 09/23/2006 8:30:28 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Lowry used the word "crazies" and "neanderthals" with tongue firmly in cheek -- he's firmly in the pro-border security/fence camp.

Of course it's written tongue-in-cheek. Good grief, people!

26 posted on 09/23/2006 8:36:47 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Thorin
Even an broken clock is right twice a day.

Other than on immigration, Buchanan is one can short of a sixpack.

27 posted on 09/23/2006 8:38:16 AM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

"Lowry used the word "crazies" and "neanderthals" with tongue firmly in cheek -- he's firmly in the pro-border security/fence camp."

That is the way I read it too. It seemed obvious, but not to everyone, apparently.


28 posted on 09/23/2006 8:42:12 AM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: kellynla
''You show me a 50-foot wall, and I'll show you a 51-foot ladder at the border.'' This is true, and also beside the point. If illegals have to deploy 51-foot ladders to get here, their transit manifestly is going to be more difficult, and therefore fewer will attempt it.

Has anyone ever been up on a 50 foot ladder? I was a paratrooper, and I shudder to think about being on a wobbly 50 footer. However, I will show you a fifty foot wall for you to consider climbing.

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29 posted on 09/23/2006 8:52:20 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: gas0linealley; truthkeeper
That is the way I read it too. It seemed obvious, but not to everyone, apparently.

Amazing that anyone could've interpreted it otherwise.

30 posted on 09/23/2006 8:54:38 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: GarySpFc

Oh, I forgot to add, after you climb over the wall with your 50 foot ladder have fun going down the other side.


31 posted on 09/23/2006 8:55:07 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

"I shudder to think about being on a wobbly 50 footer."

Especially when there are armed guards in the towers. LOL

Semper Fi,
Kelly


32 posted on 09/23/2006 9:13:22 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Miss Marple

I have yet to see on fox a liberal rolling over a conservative. They're lucky if they get a draw. You must have some inner rage against him.


33 posted on 09/23/2006 9:18:13 AM PDT by DWC
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To: Thorin
I'm glad to see people coming around to an idea Pat Buchanan has been pushing since 1992.

Yep, we Arizonans really needed Pat Buchanan to tell us we are being invaded. /sarc off

34 posted on 09/23/2006 9:28:06 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: Miss Marple
I couldn't DISagree more. I think Lowry comes across better against Alan Colmes than Sean Hannity, who comes across as too self-rightous.

I guess different people see things a different way.
35 posted on 09/23/2006 9:35:56 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: kellynla
Right. The best they can muster is the ladder argument. Weak. i wouldn't say it's a victory for the neanderthals, more like a defeat for those who depend on illegal cheap labor to survive. Let's not forget those who believe America can not go forward unless she is driven by a huge underclass.
36 posted on 09/23/2006 9:39:34 AM PDT by fantom
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To: Mr. Mojo

Funny how it was 94-0, not 94-6. Who sat out?


38 posted on 09/23/2006 9:44:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Dane
Good old Dane.

This is an immigration thread so, of course, you're here.

Funny we never see you on any threads when you don't have the opportunity to support a pro-Mexico agenda.

How's your one-man lawn care service coming?
39 posted on 09/23/2006 9:44:44 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: Dane
Do you think the writer of this article has ever picked up a shovel or cleaned a toilet in his metrosexual life.

Do you really think he needs a shovel to clean out his toilet. LOL! From the sounds of this article, he does. ;o)

40 posted on 09/23/2006 9:48:32 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (ISLAM IS A CULT OF DEATH AND NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH!)
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