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Time to Move the Mississippi, Experts Say
The New York Times ^ | September 19, 2006 | Cornelia Dean

Posted on 09/23/2006 8:22:42 AM PDT by UpTurn

Scientists have long said the only way to restore Louisiana’s vanishing wetlands is to undo the elaborate levee system that controls the Mississippi River, not with the small projects that have been tried here and there, but with a massive diversion that would send the muddy river flooding wholesale into the state’s sediment-starved marshes.

And most of them have long dismissed the idea as impractical, unaffordable and lethal to the region’s economy. Now, they are reconsidering. In fact, when a group of researchers convened last April to consider the fate of the Louisiana coast, their recommendation was unanimous: divert the river.

Far from rejecting the idea, state officials have embraced it, motivated not just by the lessons of Hurricane Katrina but also by growing fears that global climate change will bring rising seas, accelerating land loss and worse weather.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: flooding; katrina; levees; louisiana; mississippiriver; nytreasontimes; rita; wetlands
Tough times, tough decisions
1 posted on 09/23/2006 8:22:43 AM PDT by UpTurn
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To: UpTurn

Never ceases to amaze me how Leftist bureaucrats can continually manufacture new excuses to spend hundreds of billions of Federal Dollars on nonsense.


2 posted on 09/23/2006 8:24:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: UpTurn

What does Mother Nature have to say on this?


3 posted on 09/23/2006 8:26:29 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: UpTurn

Put it on a bunch of Louisiana school buses and move it to say......... Houston....those people miss their river.


4 posted on 09/23/2006 8:28:17 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, if there was some way to make it come out in Ted Kennedy's state it might be worth it.


5 posted on 09/23/2006 8:28:46 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Mother Nature has been wanting to change the river's course for 60 years or so. Who knows, with the levee and dike system keeping it in place..
6 posted on 09/23/2006 8:32:42 AM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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To: UpTurn

You mean we can finally get done with the cue ball nagin??? and we can do away with William Jefferson (D) LA.? and we can do away with the school buses that were left there, that could have saved alot of lives???

WOW, I'm for moving the mighty Mississippi....right over LA.


7 posted on 09/23/2006 8:32:58 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: UpTurn
Those Loosiana officials have long wielded power by their ability to control the large monetary sums that were ostensibly to have been used to maintain the levee system.

This move is likely seen as core to the way they would intend to strengthen such power into the next several decades--by using "other people's money", that is, federal taxpayers' money.

HF

8 posted on 09/23/2006 8:33:45 AM PDT by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: UpTurn

I saw the banker in charge of this effort on c-span. He was hostile in threatening the feds. Seemed to me that he would be better off to start raising money and enlisting the support of enviornmentalists.


9 posted on 09/23/2006 8:34:21 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: UpTurn

Looks like a job for Karl Rove's terrain redesign machine.


10 posted on 09/23/2006 8:39:02 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: Buck W.

Karl Rove, Terra-Forming Overlord

(I'm sure someone at DU thinks that)


11 posted on 09/23/2006 8:40:47 AM PDT by VOA
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To: UpTurn

Also here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1704695/posts


12 posted on 09/23/2006 8:46:07 AM PDT by Toby06 (Hydrogen is not a fuel source. Hydrogen is an energy storage method, like a battery.)
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To: tet68

Massachusetts already pays out more in federal taxes than it gets from the feds.


13 posted on 09/23/2006 8:47:09 AM PDT by Toby06 (Hydrogen is not a fuel source. Hydrogen is an energy storage method, like a battery.)
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To: MNJohnnie

In the case of the Mississippi it's not nonsense. The river has been trying to change course for decades. The natural channel for the river is the Atchafalaya river basin flowing into the Gulf at Houma (I think?). All the efforts of the last 70 or so years by the Corps of Engineers have been to prevent the river from doing that.


14 posted on 09/23/2006 8:48:54 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
What does Mother Nature have to say on this?

Mother Nature says, "Let the Mississippi flow down its natural (now) basin, the Atchafalaya".

15 posted on 09/23/2006 8:53:04 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Toby06

Thanks Toby06. My bad--next time I will check to see if an article has already been posted. Your ref is a better post. I wasted bandwidth.


16 posted on 09/23/2006 8:54:03 AM PDT by UpTurn (I like country music http://www.thunder-creek.com)
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To: UpTurn

I just gave the link for info, not a stick in the eye.


17 posted on 09/23/2006 9:02:16 AM PDT by Toby06 (Hydrogen is not a fuel source. Hydrogen is an energy storage method, like a battery.)
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To: UpTurn; All

I am all for this and something needs to be done fast. Thankfully with the increase in offshore revenues much of those funds can go this project. It is sad because of a paperwork snafu in the Clinton years Chevron will not have to to pay royalties on that new huge field.

I fear though all we will get is talk from both the State and Federal level because no one is going to want to make the very unpopular choices

For those that want to see a awesome link section that talks about this National problem and possible solutions
www.conservativecajun.blogspot.com/


18 posted on 09/23/2006 9:04:21 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: saganite
How about this. Let's just move every one and turn it into a giant national forest area. Quit building the Levees and so forth and just let nature have it way?

Man tried to direct nature and it created a mess. NOW the solution being put forward is to continue trying to direct how nature works but in a different way
19 posted on 09/23/2006 9:05:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: UpTurn

"certain. One possible location is near Davant, about 45 miles southeast of New Orleans. Another is near Empire, further down the river, where the levees could be opened. In either case the river flow into wet and marshy areas to the west. Another way would have to be found — or constructed — for ships to reach the shipping lane, possibly something engineers call a slack-water channel"

THis makes sense to me. I mean if nothing is done that whole area will be under water in the future anyway. Venice is going to have to suck it up


20 posted on 09/23/2006 9:06:14 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: UpTurn

It would be less expensive to move New Orleans north, out of the flood plain, restore the natural course of the Mississippi (get rid if the levees) where it will then rebuild the sandy marshlands (they act as a wind and water break from Hurricane-fed ocean surges); than it would be to continue to try to "protect" New Orleans.

If you additionally consider what may become of the current, and very natural, warming climate trend, the rise of the Gulf waters and the Mississippi delta just might eventually swamp any levee system there.

Maybe it is time for some radical ideas.


21 posted on 09/23/2006 9:13:29 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

I do like the diversion at empire idea. A couple of town would have to be sacrificed but it looks like the best solution. It seems that dredging on a occasional basis whereever the main channel go by nature would solve the Navigation problem


22 posted on 09/23/2006 9:18:58 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: catholicfreeper

"I do like the diversion at empire idea."

Empire???

What am I missing?


23 posted on 09/23/2006 9:25:38 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Empire, Louisiana. It's a little town way down there.


24 posted on 09/23/2006 9:36:11 AM PDT by fishergirl (Choose your vices carefully, then be loyal to them.)
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To: UpTurn

Completely at odds with

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1706724/posts



Katrina, Rita Actually Helped Wetlands, Study Says


25 posted on 09/23/2006 9:52:02 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower I(t was greatTraffic Keep Right)
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To: fishergirl

Thanks. My Lousiana geography is not that good and I skipped over alot of little details in the article.


26 posted on 09/23/2006 10:00:50 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: UpTurn

Why not both?

TT


27 posted on 09/23/2006 1:54:09 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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