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High-tech 'pot factories' popping up in suburban homes
SF Gate ^ | 9/23/06 | Don Thompson

Posted on 09/23/2006 1:23:52 PM PDT by World_Events

Leon Nunn stepped out his front door one recent afternoon only to be waved back by a squadron of drug agents using a battering ram on a neighbor's home.

The half-million dollar home in the quiet subdivision was stuffed with high-grade marijuana, plants covering nearly every square foot.

The bust is one example of a phenomenon that has come to light recently in subdivisions around the state's capital.

Marijuana growers with suspected ties to Asian organized crime have been buying suburban homes — many in newer developments — because of the anonymity the drug dealers believe the neighborhoods afford.

They close the blinds and get to work gutting the inside, converting otherwise nondescript tract homes into the latest battleground in the state's campaign against marijuana cartels.

"We had no idea. I was shocked," said Nunn, an associate minister at Elk Grove's Progressive Church of God in Christ. "We never saw them or heard from them. It was just a real quiet house on the block."

The Nunns installed security lights and cameras and said some of their neighbors are talking of moving away.

"Now we're just suspicious every time we see something around here," said his wife, Patricia. "You pay this much money, you don't expect those things to happen."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: bongbrigade; drugs; itchyandscratchy; libertarians; marijuana; mrleroybait; pot; wod; wodlist; wosd
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1 posted on 09/23/2006 1:23:53 PM PDT by World_Events
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2 posted on 09/23/2006 1:26:38 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: World_Events

I guess it is easier than trying to transport it across the borders.


3 posted on 09/23/2006 1:29:43 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Gotta put those local drug growers out of business fast. They may cut in on the lucrative import business. On the other hand they may only get ten percent of the locals the same as they do the "importers."


4 posted on 09/23/2006 1:31:15 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: World_Events

Asian organized crime must learn that the cops watch your electric bills, especially when you use credit cards to buy HMI lights and tanks of CO2.


5 posted on 09/23/2006 1:31:37 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: World_Events
Local news has stories about fifty or so homes the area cleaned out over the last two weeks. Mrs. steveo (in the mortgage business) figured out how this works. The buyer gets an 80/20 loan (no down payment) and sets up shop. No payments are typically due for the first 60 days. Then notices of default, etc. will take another 90 days.

The electricity meter is bypassed for the growing operation, leaving a normal electric bill... The neighborhoods are all new, with no established long time residents. The front areas of the houses are set up normally, with the growing operations in the rear of the houses. Unless you have seen the news stories, you wouldn't believe how sophisticated they are.

I just gotta wonder how many buds are missing at the end of the day.

6 posted on 09/23/2006 1:33:21 PM PDT by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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To: World_Events

END THE DRUG WAR NOW!


7 posted on 09/23/2006 1:35:16 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: FreePaul
On the other hand they may only get ten percent of the locals the same as they do the "importers."

The drug warriors will be along shortly to demand warrant-less inspections of all homes in the subdivisions. It's the only way to be sure. Since anyone with nothing to hide should just open their doors. Saves the inconvenience of a forced entry.

8 posted on 09/23/2006 1:36:38 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: steveo
you wouldn't believe how sophisticated they are.

With so many 'gardeners' in one place...I get they could have some nice landscaping. :)
9 posted on 09/23/2006 1:37:16 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: steveo

If these guys make a market move on the tender baby spinach market; the FDA will be all over it.


10 posted on 09/23/2006 1:44:57 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"END THE DRUG WAR NOW!"

Exactly! End the drug war by winning...right now. Stop playing games with it and execute every second (or more) offender caught with more than a "user level" amount in their possession. Amend the Constitution to limit court appeals to one level/one appeal, and then when the case is lost, execute the offender the following day.

For those who are caught with less, no prison. Cane them, or whip them...and let them pick their choice of the two.


11 posted on 09/23/2006 1:50:19 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: steveo

Except, the house looks like a christmass tree on Infrared - cops just fly the helos over and look for the heat bloom.


12 posted on 09/23/2006 1:52:51 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: World_Events

Somehow the words "half-million dollar" and "nondescript tract homes" just don't seem to go together for me. I guess I don't get out enough.


13 posted on 09/23/2006 1:53:18 PM PDT by Felis_irritable
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To: World_Events

In my own experience, few people on earth are as obsessed about grass as your typical upscale suburban homeowner, so it appears to be a natural fit.


14 posted on 09/23/2006 1:58:51 PM PDT by Jagman
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WOD - the Great Circle Jerk continues


15 posted on 09/23/2006 2:01:30 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Are we as free as we used to be?)
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To: P-40
I guess it is easier than trying to transport it across the borders.

Yes. It is.

16 posted on 09/23/2006 2:02:08 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: RavenATB
Amend the Constitution to limit court appeals to one level/one appeal, and then when the case is lost, execute the offender the following day.

Execute them in soccer stadiums! Stone them all!

I like the way you think.

17 posted on 09/23/2006 2:04:21 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: farlander
Not to mention the place smells like a ton of moldy Alfalfa...
18 posted on 09/23/2006 2:05:13 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Felis_irritable
Somehow the words "half-million dollar" and "nondescript tract homes" just don't seem to go together for me.

In Calif that will probably get you a 3 bedroom 1 bath 1800 sq ft with a one car garage.

19 posted on 09/23/2006 2:05:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Felis_irritable

It's the SF Bay area. $500k is VERY common. It is NOT high end.


20 posted on 09/23/2006 2:06:16 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Felis_irritable

You must live in a 'normal' section of the country- I have a huge 4800 sq ft house that looks like a castle- it would sell for around $400K here (I hope!) and that is high for this area.

In many parts of the country a similar house would be easily well over a million (yes I am jealous) and a two bedroom shoebox is a half mil.

A friend of mine in NM bought hers for $450K and when she saw mine she said I easily had 3 times the house she had.


21 posted on 09/23/2006 2:09:59 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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Wow. What penalty would you impose for selling cigarettes to a minor? How about jaywalking? I'd say on a second offense off with a foot.


22 posted on 09/23/2006 2:11:42 PM PDT by jdub
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To: PAR35
In Calif that will probably get you a 3 bedroom 1 bath 1800 sq ft with a one car garage."

Not in my neighborhood. Ok maybe the garage.

23 posted on 09/23/2006 2:14:36 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: World_Events


24 posted on 09/23/2006 2:19:25 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: RavenATB
execute every second (or more) offender caught with more than a "user level" amount in their possession

Of Pot? Give me a break

25 posted on 09/23/2006 2:25:10 PM PDT by montag813
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To: World_Events

They're just putting the herb in suburb!


26 posted on 09/23/2006 2:26:05 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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Related thread:

Drug use up for boomers, down for teens

 

27 posted on 09/23/2006 2:29:06 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: montag813; RavenATB
Of Pot?

That does seem a bit harsh. I just can not wait to hear what he has in store for heretics, divorcees, and tax cheats. Stoning is sooo passe'. When was civilized society last treated to crucifixions and impalement's?

28 posted on 09/23/2006 2:42:55 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Mr. K

"You must live in a 'normal' section of the country- I have a huge 4800 sq ft house that looks like a castle- it would sell for around $400K here (I hope!) and that is high for this area."

Where do you live?


29 posted on 09/23/2006 2:58:48 PM PDT by rickyc
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To: Felis_irritable

"Somehow the words "half-million dollar" and "nondescript tract homes" just don't seem to go together for me."

LOL! It's a California thing, no sane person can understand it.


30 posted on 09/23/2006 3:05:13 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever; Wolfie; Know your rights; tacticalogic
That does seem a bit harsh. I just can not wait to hear what he has in store for heretics, divorcees, and tax cheats. Stoning is sooo passe'. When was civilized society last treated to crucifixions and impalement's?

Just think how this will work out with statistics for the War on Terror. Low level drug dealers will confess to being terrorists because the penalties would be less brutal. There'll be less drug arrests so we'll be winning there, and more terror arrests so we'll be winning that war as well. Good work if you can get it.

31 posted on 09/23/2006 3:57:02 PM PDT by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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Cool, looks like the Feds will get to confiscate some homes worth nearly 500k on today's market.


32 posted on 09/23/2006 3:58:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RavenATB
Stop playing games with it and execute every second (or more) offender caught with more than a "user level" amount in their possession. Amend the Constitution to limit court appeals to one level/one appeal, and then when the case is lost, execute the offender the following day.

Move to Singapore, where they do such things (but still have a drug problem). This Christian and liberty-loving country has no interest in your barbaric proposals.

33 posted on 09/23/2006 4:39:26 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: RavenATB
"END THE DRUG WAR NOW!"
Stop playing games with it and execute...cane...whip
...
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34 posted on 09/23/2006 4:40:33 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: A CA Guy
Cool, looks like the Feds will get to confiscate some homes worth nearly 500k on today's market.

And like most liberals you think more money in federal hands is a good thing. Disgusting.

35 posted on 09/23/2006 5:17:14 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: jdub

"What penalty would you impose for selling cigarettes to a minor? How about jaywalking? "

So let me get this straight...you cannot see a significant moral and criminal difference between importing/selling illegal narcotics and jaywalking?

Wow. Then I guess a parking ticket is pretty much in the same league with raping a child to you.


36 posted on 09/23/2006 5:19:41 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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Just be real careful who you arrest. The first time lil' Johnny Whitebread faces the firing squad, the War's off.


37 posted on 09/23/2006 5:20:21 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How about stop calling it a "war" and start calling it what it is: enforcing the laws.


38 posted on 09/23/2006 5:21:56 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Know your rights
Better than drug activists and dealers growing and making drugs to pollute the young and ruin the country.

I know they like to smoke their sh!t, but they are dangerous and stupid.


39 posted on 09/23/2006 5:22:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RavenATB

President of Singapore, is that you?


40 posted on 09/23/2006 5:23:32 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: A CA Guy
Better than drug activists and dealers growing and making drugs to pollute the young and ruin the country.

Dealers like Coors and Seagrams? Contrary to your hysteria, legal drugs have not and will not "ruin the country." As for "polluting the young," the young report that marijuana is easier to get than beer or cigarettes, so the War On Drugs For Adults has failed in that regard.

41 posted on 09/23/2006 5:27:36 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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The funny thing is, the same real estate agent sold them 18 houses.

He was "rookie of the year" agent at his agency.


42 posted on 09/23/2006 5:28:59 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Felis_irritable

"Somehow the words "half-million dollar" and "nondescript tract homes" just don't seem to go together for me. I guess I don't get out enough."

That's a cheap tract house on a postage stamp sized lot in Caifornia.



43 posted on 09/23/2006 5:37:07 PM PDT by dalereed
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"And like most liberals you think more money in federal hands is a good thing. Disgusting."

Anything that does in users and dealers is a good thing!

Give any user caught a year of hard labor and the dealers will dry up.


44 posted on 09/23/2006 5:42:21 PM PDT by dalereed
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Only the recreational drug warriors who worship at the alter of illegal recreational drugs would give you the least bit of validity.
That kind of sacrament gets no resepect from anyone else.


45 posted on 09/23/2006 5:52:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: World_Events

Punishments tend to be not very severe.
Adult son of one of my work associates had a massive pot growing operation in a rural barn.
He got busted basically because he couldn't keep his mouth shut about his success.
But he didn't do any jail time, although he lost the property, cars, etc but it was all mostly on credit anyway.


46 posted on 09/23/2006 6:05:22 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: dalereed
Anything that does in users and dealers is a good thing!

Give any user caught a year of hard labor and the dealers will dry up.


Bureau of Justice Statistics

* 110 million Americans age 12 or older (46% of the population) reported illicit drug use at least once in their lifetime
* 15% reported use of a drug within the past year
* 8% reported use of a drug within the past month.


How many million people do we need to imprison in your gulag before we win the war on drugs?
47 posted on 09/23/2006 6:16:09 PM PDT by somniferum (Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
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To: Felis_irritable

"Somehow the words "half-million dollar" and "nondescript tract homes" just don't seem to go together for me. I guess I don't get out enough."

In SF Bay area suburbs $500,000 might get you a 1,000 to 1,300 sq.ft. home about 40 years old. If even that.


48 posted on 09/23/2006 6:21:24 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: somniferum

Not that many if every one that is caught is given the maximum term.

They will quit using rather than do the hard time.


49 posted on 09/23/2006 6:25:52 PM PDT by dalereed
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They will quit using rather than do the hard time.



No they won't.


50 posted on 09/23/2006 6:27:59 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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