Skip to comments.Former official sees little threat from superhighway
Posted on 09/23/2006 1:52:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
As the former executive director of North Americas Super Corridor Coalition (NASCO), I want to provide a much more accurate description of Interstate 35 and North Americas Super Corridor Coalition (NASCO) compared to statements made during a recent congressional campaign news conference. (Proposed NAFTA superhighway a threat to Kansans , Journal-World, Aug. 12)
First, there is no NASCO plan to build a 10-lane superhighway through Kansas or the rest of the Midwest. There is no conspiracy to grab Kansans property to provide the right of way for such a project. NASCO is a small, non-profit 501(c) (6) organization with members in Mexico, Canada and the United States.
The state of Texas is working on plans for a Trans-Texas Corridor that would parallel I-35, but anyone who has tried to drive in Austin, Dallas and Fort Worth knows why Texans are considering this mega-project: Its called total traffic congestion. There are simply too many vehicles on outdated highway facilities.
It slows not only commercial traffic and hurts just in time delivery, which is critical in our economy, but its also unsafe for the traveling public and our environment. Just think of all those vehicles idling and spewing pollutants when a 20-minute trip becomes a two-hour odyssey. And while we are seeing this happen now in Texas, you better believe that eventually it will also happen in Kansas City and Wichita.
Second, NASCO or any other public/private organization has no power to decide what transportation improvements are funded. Those decisions are made by the respective state departments of transportation, and are funded in large part by the federal government. If you ask department of transportation leaders in Kansas or other states along the I-35 corridor, you will find that states are having a hard enough time paying for maintenance of their highway systems. Kansas is not a member of NASCO; I know this because I tried to get the state to join in 2002, and was politely told no.
Third, consider the sources on the Internet that started this rumor of a North American Union and the gradual disintegration of U.S. national independence. WorldNet Daily and Amerikan Expose arent exactly the Wall Street Journal and Newsweek. Conspiracy theorists need to have their so-called proof examined thoroughly before their assertions are accepted as truth.
Groups like NASCO are looking for innovative ways to enhance economic development through transportation improvements, technological advancements and perhaps most importantly, international understanding and cooperation.
By Scott Rothschild (Contact)
Saturday, August 12, 2006
Topeka Congressional challenger Nancy Boyda on Friday blasted U.S. Rep. Jim Ryun, R-Lawrence, for voting for legislation that she said included funds to start developing a NAFTA superhighway from Mexico to Canada that could go through Kansas.
Boyda, a Democrat from Topeka, said the proposal posed a security threat and would gobble up Kansas farmers land and cost American jobs.
This corridor straight into our heartland will be a gift to terrorists, Boyda said at a news conference. Has Mr. Ryun forgotten 9-11? This corridor will punch a quarter-mile hole in our border with Mexico with virtually no way to control it.
But Boyda later said she would have voted for the same federal highway legislation she criticized Ryun about because it also included funding for Kansas road projects.
The difference between her and Ryun, she said, was that she would have let constituents in the district know about the other funding in the bill for the superhighway and asked them if they wanted her to oppose the proposal.
Ryuns office declined to comment, instead providing a link to a group called the North American SuperCorridor Coalition Inc.
On the coalitions Web site www.nascocorridor.com the group said it was working to develop a multifaceted transportation system along Interstate 35.
There are no plans to build a new NAFTA Superhighway it exists today as I-35, the group said.
But Boyda said the coalitions funding for development of the superhighway was buried deep in the federal bills.
She said the first evidence of the proposal was a furious fight in Texas about a proposal by a U.S.-Spanish group to build a megahighway for vehicles and railroads, oil and gas pipelines, water and other utilities, and broadband cable. The route is proposed to be along I-35.
Trans-Texas Corridor PING!
Bush Administration Advances on Path of Creating 'North American Union'
Human Events Magazine ^ | sept 21, 2006 | Jerome Corsi
Posted on 09/22/2006 8:17:19 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
Bush Administration Advances on Path of Creating North American Union by Jerome R. Corsi Posted Sep 21, 2006
In the face of mounting public awareness and criticism, the Bush Administration is launching an offensive to claim that those arguing issues of NAFTA Super-Highways, a North American Union, or a new currency called the Amero are largely Internet conspiracy theorists whose claims should be dismissed as imaginary.
Several months ago, few U.S. citizens had ever heard of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP). Now, SPP.gov, the Department of Commerce website dedicated to advancing the Security and Prosperity Partnership, has been forced to add a new Myths v. Facts section aimed at debunking arguments made that SPP.gov is advancing an agenda to create a new regional government, along the model of the European Union.
The first myth/fact exchange addresses the legal status of SPP. To quote directly from the document on the SPP.gov website (including the grammatical error in the first sentence), we find the documents first attempt at denial:
Myth: The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents (sic) Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.
Fact: The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries. The SPP is not an agreement nor is it a treaty. In fact, no agreement was ever signed.
The intent here appears to be to belittle the importance of what is happening within the many cabinet-level working groups constituted with the executive branches of the three countries. In doing so, the Bush Administration admits that the SPP activity is nothing more than a dialogue, mere talk. Evidently this point is conceded because the alternative would be to insist that any trilateral written agreements resulting from SPP should be submitted to the Senate as treaties demanding a two-thirds vote for approval. In an effort to down-play the importance of the extensive SPP activities being organized under Secretary Carlos Gutierrez in the Department of Commerce, we even find that the once ubiquitous SPP logo has been carefully removed from the current debunking version of the SPP.gov website.
Yet a close examination of the SPP.gov website makes questionable that that SPP is doing nothing more significant than talking. The 2005 Report to Leaders contained on the SPP.gov website lists more than 30 references to trilateral memoranda of understanding, mutual agreements, and other frameworks of common principles, all of which strongly suggest that formal, written legal agreements have been reached by the trilateral working groups operating within SPP.gov.
The first five public policy areas listed in 2005 Report to Leaders are quoted directly below, to illustrate the nature of the formal written agreements and subsequent executive branch governmental decisions and actions that are proceeding from the dialogue, making it clear that much more than talking is going on. We have underlined the terms that suggest much more than mere neighborly conversation.
Electronic Commerce. In June 2005, our three countries signed a Framework of Common Principles for Electronic Commerce that will encourage the development of trans-border online business in North America. Liberalization of Rules of Origin. We have completed the implementation of modifications of rules of origin, covering goods such as household appliances, precious metals, and various machinery and equipment parts. Consumer Products. Canada and the United States have signed a Memorandum of Understanding to enhance and strengthen the exchange of information and cooperative activities on public health and safety protection related to the safety of consumer products, and encourage compatibility of standards-related measures to the greatest extent practicable. Likewise, Mexico and the United States are holding negotiations to reach an agreement on a similar Memorandum of Understanding. Textiles and Apparel Labelling (sic). We have reached an arrangement on the Use of Care symbols on Textile and Apparel Goods Labels that will facilitate market access of textile and apparel goods by the uniform acceptance of harmonized care symbols in North America. We plan to sign this agreement in July. Temporary Work Entry. The three countries have forwarded a trilateral document setting out each countrys domestic procedures to modify NAFTAs temporary entry appendix on professionals to the NAFTA Free Trade Commission for approval. This will clarify procedures in each country, thereby providing a mechanism for more North American professionals to be given temporary entry. Why arent the many tri-lateral agreements discussed in the 2005 Report to Leaders published on the website, hot-linked within SPP.gov so they can easily be referenced and read? Nor can we find specific oversight congressional hearings which have examined these agreements in detail or questioned the ministerial level working group members about the specific legislative authorization they relied upon to constitute their working groups or to derive the many trilateral agreements that have been reached within what appears to be secrecy (or, at best, minimum disclosure) by the various U.S. executive branch administrative agencies involved in the SPP working groups.
Only a few documents and government websites are listed on SPP.gov under SPP Documents and Useful Links. Are these the most important or the most current trilateral agreements reached by SPP.gov as described in the 2005 Report to Leaders on the website? Or, are these references meant merely to be representative of the wide range of working group activity and trilateral agreements achieved to date? Why are these documents on the SPP.gov website and not other documents? Why are the published documents and linked websites not identified for easy understanding and simple reference back to the more comprehensive 2005 Report to Leaders that is on the website?
What appears to be going on within SPP.gov is not simply a dialogue, but a massive and on-going re-writing of U.S. administrative law to integrate or harmonize our administrative law with the corresponding administrative law of Mexico and Canada. A wide range of public policy areas are involved in the SPP re-write of U.S. administrative law, ranging from e-commerce, through air travel, steel policy, textile policy, energy policy, environmental issues, trusted trader programs, trusted traveler programs and biometric cards issued to citizens of the three countries. The resulting trilateral agreements are being achieved by SPP all without specific disclosure to the U.S. public or direct oversight examination by Congress.
Charges of this magnitude demand we consider the possibility that an executive branch coup detat is underway to create a new regional government below the radar of media, public, or congressional understanding or scrutiny.
Examining the hundreds of government websites devoted to SPP.gov in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, we find additional evidence that belies the assertion that SPP.gov is nothing more than a dialogue. The SPP website of the President of Mexico refers to SPP.gov as an Alliance, a word much more suggestive of a treaty, or at least a new formal status of international relations, that has been formally declared among the three nations. This Mexican website also lists much more clearly and comprehensively the full range of cabinet-level and administrative branch officials involved in the SPP.gov working groups, ranging in the U.S. to include at least the following U.S. executive branch administrative agencies: U.S. Department of State, Department of Commerce, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Treasury, Department of Transportation, Department of Energy, Department of Agriculture, Department of Health and Human Services, as well as their counterparts in Mexican and Canadian executive branch agencies. We find no reference on SPP.gov to indicate that any members of Congress have been invited to participate in the working groups, even as informed observers.
President Bushs statement following the Cancun trilateral summit in March 2006 also calls SPP a Partnership, echoing Mexicos suggestion of an Alianza, suggesting that the legal status of SPP is more than a mere declaration or press release. Consider President Bushs description in this document of the extensive trilateral administrative work underway in the many executive branch agencies of the three governments:
This Partnership (SPP) has increased our institutional contacts to respond to our vision of a stronger, more secure, and more prosperous region. In June 2005, our three governments released detailed work-plans identifying key initiatives that form an ambitious agenda of collaboration. Since June, we have worked to implement these initiatives. Many will take months or years to be completed, but we already note significant results. We ask our Ministers to build on this momentum.
On September 13, 2005, Deputy Secretary of Commerce David A. Sampson admitted that SPP was a blueprint in a speech given to the Canadian-American Border Trade Alliance:
The SPP announced last March by President Bush, Prime Minister Martin and Mexican President Vicente Fox, unveiled a blueprint for a safer and more prosperous North America for the 21st century.
Since the trilateral summit meeting in Waco, Tex., the governments of the U.S., Mexico, and Canada appear to be acting as if the three nations have achieved some formal new status, declared as a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. We are invited to consider whether SPP in reality is not just a dialogue, but a formal and advanced integration of the three nations such that the administrative law in each nation has been altered by the executive branches of the three governments to accomplish regional goals, not specifically national goals. Is then SPP a second stage NAFTA, a Super-NAFTA, designed to function as a transitional second stage on the way to the end goal of a true regional government, a North American Union expected to emerge as a fait accompli from the SPP rewriting of the three nations administrative law?
The question is this: What is the SPP blueprint intended to build? The second myth/fact exchange in the newly posted paper under that title on SPP.gov denies forcefully that the intent of the Bush administration is to create a North American Union:
Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.
Fact: The cooperative efforts under SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.
He sounds like he's saying "yes" and "no" right in succession.
And back in the 50's far right wingers were calling Eisenhower a communist and an atheist.
You all, IMO, look silly in your knee jerk opposition and quest for the conpiracy theory of the day.
Those roads look pretty darn scary. Just looking at them robs me of my sovereignty.
Are any of those roads in Mexico or Canada?
"You all, IMO, look silly in your knee jerk opposition and quest for the conpiracy theory of the day."
Considering how the Federal Gov. has handled the illegal invasion, it is your opinion that looks silly.
The conpiracy theory of the day won't or doesn't mean much to most Texans that have to travel these congested roads day in and day out for a living or depends upon them for products to shipped in or out. There are lots of articles written by the antis but in the long run Texas needs roads and will have them whether it is the TTC or some other funded option such as state debt and taxes. It's mostly a matter of time in the approval process.
Dane, this is one of the few things that we agree on. Texas must fix its Interstates. The dims want to bust it up into "local control boards" Perry, while not the sharpest tool in the shed, promotes a centralized private plan. The foreign investors risk their capital. As opposed to politicians squandering taxpayer monies. Reference the Big Dig.
This is a US financed work program for Mexican truck drivers, plus they'll be able to truck in the illegals by thousands.
plus they'll be able to truck in the illegals by thousands.
Why not use trains from Mexico to various US cities?
It sure does. See, that is what is different between "capitalism" and government price controls. As far as a foreign company "controlling" their investment by sending out proper requests for quote, and demanding pre-qualification of the contractors; so what? And if you are inferring that any foreign investment in Texas or the US is a bad thing, do not be silly. Our legislature must ultimately approve this whole thing. The dims are pissed because they can not get the detailed engineering and analysis for free. So they spout "LandGrab by Ferrinners" while Granny promises business as usual for her favored contractors (read political contributors). Perry is no true conservative, but we must plan this and get it done. Nobody else has submitted a plan for review.
Brilliant idea! The Texas Railway Commission can go out and declare imminent domain to build new railroads. Because if you think the Interstates are in trouble in Texas, you ought to see the rail system. The TTC systems include new railway, which is urgently needed.
"During the early 1980s the rapid changes in the United States economy and mergers among other western railroad companies made it increasingly difficult for the Southern Pacific Transportation Company and the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway Company to compete as independent railroads. On December 23, 1983, the parent companies merged to form the Santa Fe Southern Pacific Corporation (now Santa Fe Pacific Corporation), and an application was filed with the Interstate Commerce Commission to merge the two railroads. However, in July 1986 the ICC refused to allow the merger and ordered the holding company to sell one of the carriers. This resulted in the sale of the SPTC to Rio Grande Industries, parent company of the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad Company, on October 13, 1988. A new system consisting of the SPTC, Rio Grande, and Cotton Belt was thus formed. Initially each company continued to operate under its own name, but in 1992 operations of the Rio Grande and Cotton Belt were consolidated with those of the SPTC, and the system became known as the Southern Pacific Lines. On April 30, 1993, the name of Rio Grande Industries was changed to Southern Pacific Rail Corporation. From the days of the Buffalo Bayou, Brazos and Colorado and the Galveston and Red River, the Southern Pacific system in Texas has been centered in the Houston area. The new system continues to operate major terminals, shops, and a regional office in Houston, only a few miles from where the first rail was laid, not only in Texas but also on what is now the Southern Pacific."
On April 1, 2005, Kansas City Southern (KCS) completed the purchase of the controlling interest in TFM, S.A. de C.V. (TFM) from Grupo TMM, S.A. (TMM). As a result, KCS owns all of the common stock of Grupo Transportacion Ferroviaria Mexicana, S.A. de C.V. and controls all of the shares of TFM entitled to full voting rights. In December 2005, the name TFM, S.A. de C.V. was changed to Kansas City Southern de Mexico (KCSM).
The 2,661-mile KCSM operates the primary rail route in northern and central Mexico, linking Mexico City and Monterrey with Laredo, Texas, where more than 50 percent of the U.S.-Mexico trade crosses the border. The line also connects the major population centers of Mexico City and Monterrey with the heartland of the U.S. and serves the ports of Veracruz, Tampico and Lazaro Cardenas, a primary alternative to West Coast ports for shippers in the route between Asia and North America.
Notice that all the roads are in the United States of America? Read the CFR document on the US Embassy Website for a wonderful North American Community.
The concept of "imminent domain" is evil in my view because it allows the government the right to take your property against your will. It reminds me of China in which you can own a building, but all land belongs to the government.
Oooh, what about I-5, 19, and 35 that go straight to the Mexican border.
Damn globalsit Eisenhower(cue spooky music).
From Polipundit just for you Dane. LOL!
Enforcement Works, If You Give It A Chance
How is that Hazleton, Pa Ordinance on illegals working?
Mayor Lou Barletta of Hazleton, Pa., estimates that as many as half of the estimated 10,000 Hispanics who were living in Hazleton when it passed an ordinance in July to punish those who hire or house illegal aliens have since left the city.
Weve been notified by some 30 other cities in the United States that are waiting to process such ordinances, he said yesterday in an interview.
In Valley Park, Mo., 20 immigrant families disappeared virtually overnight from a high-crime apartment complex, and at least dozens quickly left Riverside, N.J., this summer when those two small towns passed laws cracking down on employers who hire illegal aliens and landlords who rent to them.
I wonder how things would be if they had simply adopted a tolerance ordinance?
-- Oak Leaf
You need to build a political consensus. It isn't there, yet.
I've read that certain roads in Alaska and Puerto Rico have interstate designations.
That said, I still support citizens being offered fair value for property. Whether for private or public works. The county commissioners court and the Texas Railroad Commissioners weild much more power than a governor. "RAILROAD COMMISSION. Although it is only a state agency, the Texas Railroad Commission has been historically one of the most important regulatory bodies in the nation. This is because for much of the twentieth century it has strongly influenced the supply and price of oil and natural gas throughout the United States. As its name implies, the commission was originally established to oversee railroads. Riding a wave of Populist-style resentment of the railroads, James S. Hoggqv won the governorship in 1890 largely on his promise to have them regulated. The state constitution had been simultaneously amended to allow such a body, and in 1891 the legislature established the commission, giving it jurisdiction over rates and operations of railroads, terminals, wharves, and express companies." http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/RR/mdr1.html Unless one believes that the Federal Interstate Commerce Commission will do what is best for Texas and Texans.
What..... you mean they can't use the existing interstate highways but have to wait several years for the new road system to be built....
In fact the beginning of the current flood of illegals 20 years ago coincides with the completion of the current interstate highway system.
They get over the border and two days later they're in small town pennsylvania.
"In fact the beginning of the current flood of illegals 20 years ago coincides with the completion of the current interstate highway system."
"In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which eliminated many deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the end of his administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of peacetime prosperity without recession or depression."
Uhh, Ronald Reagan was POTUS 20 years ago. Do you claim that Reagan is responsible for the immigrant flood?
The city dwellers likely have no idea about mineral rights in Texas. And those are the ones being targeted by the "landgrab" crowd. We rural property owners are very sensitive to right-of-way and mineral rights. The Texas Cattleman's Association, County Commissioners, and Railroad Commissioners are an invaluable source of information and help. They can even refer a lawyer that came from a Texas school, and is not a damn Yankee.
Discussions on what to do about the roads began in the 80s.
The Center of Transportation Research released their final report in 96, in which they recommended the MultiModal Corridor.
In Jan 02 TxDot began an implementation plan.
In 03, the legislation was completed
There has been uncountable meetings and comment.
How is all that "shoving it thru"?
As for all these very good conservative people you know, they need to come up with an alternative. Or, more to the point, how much are you going to have to raise the gas tax?
Because of better gas mileage, drivers now pay only beteen a third and a half of the gas tax that they used to pay.
The beginning of the flood appears to coincide with the signing of that dumb 1986 amnesty. The Interstate Highway system was considered completed in 1996.
"The Interstate Highway system was considered completed in 1996."
The devil is in the details.
It is real simple. What is your alternative.
"You all, IMO, look silly in your knee jerk opposition and quest for the conpiracy theory of the day".
As opposed to looking silly everytime you post?
We had a referendum and the voters rejected pay-as-you-go. Those that wanted free roads lost. Those that have to pay for the free roads won. You can hire all the facilatators and stakeholders you want, that is not going to change.
The state can borrow the money and build the road, but they have to repay the loan. The taxpayer will not tolerate a tax increase, gas, income, or otherwise, to repay the loan. Thus, the state built/operated road will be a toll road, except that it will be a higher toll that the proposal on the table.
10 lanes? Sounds good to me.
Who cares about the farmers. So they would lose what, 10 feet of field?
Well darn, I guess since bad people can use those roads, we better tear them up!
STOP PROGRESS! THOSE EVIL MEXICANS TRYING TO LEAVE THEIR HELLISH LIVES MAY USE OUR ROADS!
Actually, if you have a problem with something, you propose an alternative. NOW.
Not 10 years from now.
If you don't, it is your fault if you lose.
They could lose a lot more than that. Some farms could be split by this thing, with no immediate access from one side to the other.