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The Future of Kosovo from a Serbian-American Perspective
Glas Javnosti ^ | Saturday, September 23, 2006 | By: Michael Pravica, Ph.D.

Posted on 09/23/2006 3:42:26 PM PDT by Bokababe

I first visited Kosovo in 1988 with a group of Serbian-American students who toured some of the many historic monasteries and churches of Serbia and Montenegro. Even then, it was obvious to me that there were ethnic tensions in the Serbian province as ancient Churches were desecrated with Albanian graffiti, a car with Belgrade license plates was overturned, and we had to always walk with a guard during our stay at the Patriarchate of Pec. For me, this visit was critical in solidifying my cultural awareness and pride as a Serbian-American.

In that spirit, I strongly encourage the government of Serbia not to allow the West to bully it into granting Kosovo independence. Though there have been many innuendos about Serbia's difficulty in joining the EC if Kosovo is not "let go," and talk of "lost incentives" for Serbia, we should be very wary of any "promises" coming from the West as they have always been reneged. Serbia has a long tradition of self-sufficiency and independence. Joining the EC will not be a panacea.

In Kosovo, Serbs and Albanians have coexisted there for over 1300 years and must relearn how to coexist in the future. Granting independence to this Serbian province would set a dangerous precedent that terrorists who slaughter, ethnically cleanse, and terrorize innocent civilians can successfully alter the borders of nations and would encourage terrorists the world over in conflict-ridden places such as Chechnya, Canada, Spain, Turkey, Iraq, China, etc. From a Serbian-American perspective, Kosovo is part of Serbia, a sovereign nation. Though the ethnic demographics have shifted so that Albanians are currently in the majority, this has been due chiefly to illegal immigration of Albanians (encouraged by Tito) into the province. Granting Kosovo independence would be a dangerous harbinger of what might happen to America due to massive illegal immigration across its' Southern border with Mexico as many of these immigrants wish to reclaim "Azatlan" for Mexico. Kosovo is now the "black hole" of Europe and is becoming a fifth-column and training ground for terrorists who will attack Western interests.

The West has no legal basis to steal Kosovo from Serbia. The UN (of which Yugoslavia was a founding member) has no business interfering in Serbia's internal/domestic affairs. NATO was established to counter the no longer existent Soviet threat and should be out of Kosovo. Countries such as Germany that participated in the Holocaust of Serbs during WWII and helped catalyze the destruction of the former Yugoslavia for their own national interests should never have been allowed to station their troops in Kosovo. Serbia must regain Kosovo so that she can restore law and order because the UN and NATO are not doing the job. Serbia must also reclaim the businesses that were illegally pilfered by "philanthropists" such as George Soros. The Serbian Orthodox Church was the largest landowner in Kosovo before Tito. Lands that were illegally confiscated from The Church must be returned to their rightful owner.

During the summer of 2005, I met with two members of Congress, Shelley Berkeley and Jon Porter (my Nevada representatives). They agreed that Kosovo should remain with Serbia. I believe the US government is beginning to realize that major errors were made regarding Kosovo - especially in the post-9/11 climate - and my feeling is that with enough activism and steadfast resistance from the Serbian government, there is a good chance that the independence effort will not succeed. The Serbian government should work to restore ties with the United States and partner with it in the war on terrorism. We Serbian-Americans stand ready to aid the Serbian government in liaising with our elected officials and offering advice if requested. We must all jointly overcome lack of Serbian unity, lack of communication between the diaspora and Serbia, and lack of vision for the future.

No nation gives away land for nothing. The West may illegally recognize Kosovo's independence but no self-respecting Serb should ever accept it. Defeat occurs only when one accepts fate instead of trying to change it.

TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; Russia; Unclassified; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: dgallo51
Of course the Bosnians were supplied somehow with American arms, as they should have been. The Serbs were shelling Sarajevo, a city made dear to Western hearts due to the Olympics, a bridge too far. I have in my home before and after photos of the museum library destroyed by Serb shelling, deliberate shelling, in an attempt to destroy cultural memories, which destroyed much that will not be replaced - the barbarians at the gate.

41 posted on 09/23/2006 5:42:37 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

Banat cyber-bitchslaps Torie.

42 posted on 09/23/2006 5:46:17 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIĆ |
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To: Torie; kronos77

You have to read and hopefully understand, as these are the facts, undeniable. The tgambill writing this is the same in the blowing off, just using the crediblity card.......

Has the UN Let a Blacklisted Islamic Charity Roam Free in Kosovo?

by Christopher Deliso


"For the present investigation, Mr. Gambill has obliged by producing official written and photographic testimony to support his case for the RIHS’ presence in Kosovo. He also recalls the generally lukewarm reaction he received from superiors. In fact, this former Marine believes that the OSCE’s decision not to renew his contract last spring owed to a face-saving desire to "bury" the stories he was insisting on telling – something not very surprising, considering that the brazenly irresponsible international administration has gone to great lengths since day one to conceal its monumental failures, in areas ranging from creating a viable economy to protecting vulnerable minority groups.

One might ask, "So what? There are millions of these allegedly 'dangerous’ Islamic charities out there." That was my initial reaction when I first heard of this case. However, after some research, it became clear that far from being just another one of the myriad Islamic NGOs operating in the Balkans, the RIHS was in fact a major player with a distinguished track record and truly global aspirations. If the UN has really allowed it to flourish in Kosovo, this policy would seem to be very foolish, as the following should indicate.

The RIHS: A Quick Overview

The Revival of Islamic Heritage Society is a Kuwait-based charity with branch offices in numerous Muslim-inhabited countries. It was founded in 1992 and, according to the International Journal of Not-for-Profit Law in 2002, established international branches, including even a British one (later registered with the Charity Commission: registration no. 1014888). Quoting a now-defunct Web site, the article stated that the RIHS’ purpose is "to improve the condition of the Muslim community and develop an awareness and understanding of Islam amongst the non-Muslim communities, by concentrating on youth and education."

43 posted on 09/23/2006 5:47:49 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: kronos77

You are good......

the truth ALWAYS wins out...this is why the cowards assassinate and discredit the truth tellers in true cowardly fashion. As long as you have these people around, they will not win.....



Americans can no longer be shocked by the discovery that information directly affecting their personal freedom is withheld from news media to protect persons with governmental influence. But it still comes as a shocking revelation that in 1933 there was an actual attempt to make a fascist puppet of Pres¬ident Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Now, more than forty years later, the public still remains ignorant of the story behind THE PLOT TO SEIZE THE WHITE HOUSE.

The fact that the plot was a failure and our present government is still a democracy, is directly attributable to Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, one of the most remarkable generals in American history. A veteran of 35 years in the Marine Corps and twice a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor, Butler finally decided that "war is a racket!" His reputation for patriotism, in¬tegrity, and dedication to democracy, cou¬pled with his proclivity to speak the truth as he saw it irrespective of official policy, made him a seemingly perfect front for the men who hated Roosevelt. They were people with a determination, if it were impossible to replace the president, to manipulate him through the person of an American Musso¬lini. Their short-sightedness prevented their realizing that Butler was obviously the wrong choice for the job.

44 posted on 09/23/2006 5:51:42 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Torie
Set phasers to "ignore".

Have a good night.

= )

45 posted on 09/23/2006 5:53:41 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
"We"? The only way you're involved in this "reality" is that you're a comic relief (I simply have to laugh after reading your musings).

"You" haven't even begun dealing with reality. When it sets in, "you" will be running away - after royally f-ing up the entire Balkan Peninsula. So symptomatic of the aggressors in the past. "You" have the balls to drop bombs on hospitals and bridges. That is as far as "your" courage extends. If "you" had any courage, the Albanians wouldn't be bitchslapping "you" around like they are.

You haven't answered any of the questions. I am not taking this self-righteous BS for an aswer.

46 posted on 09/23/2006 5:55:51 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIĆ |
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To: Torie

check out the website about RHIS....I even give you a picture of a vehicle used by the RHIS, linked to Al Qaeda and terrorist......with their initials "spray painted" on the side. It was given to me "under the table", by an American "offical" who was concerned, after being told to fill the report away. Go ahead and look it up, but hold your breath and take the medicine. It is a fact..........WE WILL NOT allow this lie to continue. It won't happen.

47 posted on 09/23/2006 5:56:02 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: kronos77

Stop the flirting, this isn't a singles site.....get serious...../sarc lolol

48 posted on 09/23/2006 5:58:03 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Torie

So by that logic, we should not team up with the saudis or pakis against al qaeda. Hmm.

49 posted on 09/23/2006 6:02:32 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: Torie

They did, but they keep changing the names and coming back. Also, confirmed they operate their criminal activities with the Albanian mafia, as long as they (Islamist) don't screw with the internationals and certainly the American forces.....YET, due to the Independence issue. I know this for a fact......I was there, as my home from 1999-2004 working as a security official with OSCE. I personally saw these long bearded, short pants legged, scum bags......they even smell bad. The Mullahs (Albanian Muslim Leaders) didn't like them..and on many occasions kicked them out of the Mosques, due to their radical teaching of Islam. Nine were kicked out of the Mosque in southern Mitrovica....I have the report of it....from an American CivPol Officer....However, we are responsible for bringing the Muh. to Bosnia and on to Croatia, (Operation Storm) and finally to Kosovo. I also know that the U.S. Forces would let us say......"pick up" and re-deposit" the most radical ones to GITMO.....from Kosovo. That's all I can say about that.........Torie, these are the facts, said with respect. One must hold true to the truth no matter what the cost. Truth is above country and family. Nothing is more important that Truth. Nothing.

50 posted on 09/23/2006 6:06:29 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Hoplite

"The reality distortion field the Serbs generate over the subject of Kosovo just isn't worth dealing with anymore."

The "reality distortion" field was generated by Clinton from Bosnia and it just got worse.

With class: "Reality distortion"

Equals =

Reality: "BALD FACED LIES".....

51 posted on 09/23/2006 6:11:26 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Torie

If Hoplite is an expert, why is he most always wrong. And if you trace back the posts, you will see that his information is either wrong, or he follows the offical line, which are in fact, government fabricated stats and reports. He is linked very well with some folks in high places to keep this disinformation going. When he can't answer a question, he drops offline for awhile, consults with these folks and returns with the "O-ficial" line. of Bull..........he's been doing this for years.....

However, seriously, it's a blessing that he is here. Know why, its good exercise to bring up the counters and facts resulting in his retorts. This site is visited by "folks" you wouldn't believe. His retorts, gives the rest an opportunity to counter with solid, I hope he continues to post and provides the rest with the opportunities to post the truth. Otherwise, there would just be silence or everyone agreeing...and that's boring. :)))

52 posted on 09/23/2006 6:19:32 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Torie

Kosovo: Current and Future Status

U.S. Department of State ^ | May 18, 2005 | Nicholas R. Burns

Posted on 05/18/2005 9:10:17 PM PDT by Hoplite
Kosovo: Current and Future Status
R. Nicholas Burns, Under Secretary for Political Affairs
Statement before the House Committee on International Relations
Washington, DC
May 18, 2005

Department of state? Nicholas Burns???

This article is like OJ Simpson writing a Masters thesis on how he was not involved in the killing.....:))))lolol..

53 posted on 09/23/2006 6:24:49 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill; Hoplite

Ya, that must be it. I agree with you. Hoplite should continue to post, on this topic and any other that catches his interest, so that he can be exposed as to his opinion on anything as to what he may have an opinion, or, oh the horror, hard factual material.

54 posted on 09/23/2006 6:27:09 PM PDT by Torie
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To: tgambill; Hoplite

Hoplite is Under Secretary for Political Affairs? Who knew? I don't think that position pays enough frankly, so I doubt Hoplite is in that position. Just my speculation.

55 posted on 09/23/2006 6:30:58 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
"Of course the Bosnians were supplied somehow with American arms, as they should have been."
Regardless of any and all international agreements to the contrary: Operation Deny Flight, the UN-imposed and Nato-policed no-fly zone…just like the Clintonistas set up Afghanistan's Northern Alliance via Bill Richardson's diplomatic shenanigans with the Taliban…and we haven't even gotten to Africa or Plan Columbia or the use of private military contractors and the School of America's goodwill death squad training programs.
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To: tgambill; Bokababe; joan; kronos77; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; ...

June 01, 2006

Christians Under Siege in Kosovo

Cliff Kincaid reports at Accuracy In Media:

While the U.S. fights Muslim terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq, the U.S. and the United Nations are helping allies of Muslim terrorists come to power in Kosovo, a province of Serbia. This is a foreign policy disaster in the making that you should hope and pray gets some immediate attention from the media. To illustrate the dimensions of the problem, Father Keith Roderick of Christian Solidarity International has testified that Albanian Muslims in Kosovo have been systematically destroying Christian churches and other sites in Kosovo and the Serbian Christian population in the province is being "squeezed down to oblivion." The evidence is on display in a new DVD, "Days Made Of Fear," directed, produced and distributed by Ninoslav Randjelovic.

At the same time, Father Roderick also says that hundreds of new Mosques have been built in Kosovo over the last several years, financed mostly by Gulf Arab money.

The excellent DVD consists of 8 different films, but the most explosive is "Notes About the Rock," on the destroyed and vandalized churches and monasteries in Kosovo. Many of the scenes captured on film are considered the only video documentation on this subject available.

There is no question about the reason for the destruction. The churches were targeted by the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), also known by the acronym UCK. These initials are visible on the ruins, like a calling card. They openly advertise their anti-Christian Jihad, but our media pay no attention.

Writing for the Byzantine Cultural Project and reviewing the DVD, Theodoros Georgiou Karakostas comments, "The footage of ravaged and destroyed Serbian Churches and Monasteries is appalling. The DVD is a shocking affirmation that the American television Networks such as CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, and the others are all lined up with the foreign policy establishment and are active practitioners of official censorship. I cannot recall seeing any of the horrifying footage on this DVD on American television."

He adds, "The same U.S. media which continues to attack the Bush administration for lying about the Iraq war, continues to give Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright, Richard Holbrooke, Wesley Clark, and Samuel Berger a pass for their destructive war on Yugoslavia. We should remember also that at the last Democratic National Convention in Boston two years ago, one of the top KLA men was an honored guest of John Kerry.

"The same U.S. media which was appalled by the Taliban's destruction of the 2,000-year-old Buddhist statues has nothing to say about the remarkable Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries which have stood since the period preceding the Ottoman conquests, and which are being systematically destroyed."

Why are the media ignoring what is happening in Kosovo?

One reason, as explained in the book, Media Cleansing: Dirty Reporting, is that the media reported the war wrong and now refuse to report who has really been victimized by it. Another factor is that the much-vilified neoconservatives got Kosovo wrong, too. As I noted in a Media Monitor, "In 1999 the neocons supported the NATO war on Yugoslavia launched by President Clinton. That benefited a Muslim terrorist group, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), with links to Osama bin Laden." The neocons thought they were supporting a tougher and a new NATO.

To compound this tragedy, the Bush Administration has continued the misguided Clinton policy on Kosovo.

Let's remember that Clinton ordered U.S. military intervention in the Balkans against the Christian Serbs on the grounds that "ethnic cleansing" and even "genocide" were being waged against Serbia's neighbors. Most of that was hokum. Serbia, a U.S. ally in World War II, was being ruled by the communist Slobodan Milosevic, who was desperate to hold on to power in the former Yugoslavia, which included Serbia. While Milosevic was a problem, the Clinton "solution" made the problem worse. Clinton gave the green light to military aggression against the Serbs and even ordered the CIA to provide support to the Kosovo Liberation Army, which was allied with Osama bin Laden and radical Islamists. The U.S. bombed Serbia and forced Milosevic, who was later turned over to a U.N. court, to capitulate. Milosevic recently died in a U.N. prison.

Kosovo, like the American southwest, has been deluged by outsiders, who now want political power. In Kosovo they are Albanian Muslims, many of them illegal aliens from neighboring Albania. They want, with U.S. and U.N. support, to turn Kosovo into an independent Muslim state. The Bush Administration should stop-not accelerate-this madness.

If the Albanian Muslims succeed in taking over a province of Serbia, with U.S. and U.N. support, and establishing their own independent and sovereign state, then why should Mexicans balk at taking over the U.S. southwest? They must figure, with good reason, that the U.N. can be counted on to help them.

The cover-up of the persecution of Christians in Kosovo is another scandal for the media. It shows that when they agree with the Bush foreign policy, which in this case involves the establishment of a Muslim state in Europe and is a continuation of the Clinton foreign policy, they will utter NOT one word of criticism.



57 posted on 09/23/2006 10:32:36 PM PDT by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: Hoplite
["Set phasers to "ignore"."]

Good idea Hoplite. That is, lob grenades and then run and hide...which is what you do.
58 posted on 09/23/2006 11:13:25 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Smartass

Step by Step.......ottomans now, as planned by the Globalist, next step run the Serbs out, and eventually Serbo-Croatian will no longer be needed. This is relatively going to happen in the short term.

Turkish Becomes Official Language in Kosovo

By Cihan News Agency

Saturday, September 23, 2006

Turkish has become one of the official languages in Kosovo following the approval of a proposal in Kosovo’s parliament on Thursday.

The parliament adopted the proposal by a majority, allowing Turkish to be the third official language in the region, along with Albanian and Serbo-Croatian.

The Kosovo parliament had rejected the same proposal twice before, the second rejection being on Sept. 14, which prompted Ankara to express their disappointment earlier this week.

Around 15,000 ethnic Turks live in Kosovo. They have had a long-standing desire for their language to be used in official documents.

Following the rejection of the proposal last week, the Turkish foreign ministry on Tuesday urged the Kosovo parliament to discuss the issue again and stressed the importance that Turkey attributed to the issue.
Turkish was declared official in Kosovo in 1974, but the U.N. administration in Kosovo removed it from the official languages in 1999.

Kosovo has been under the NATO-led multinational Kosovo Force (KFOR) since 1999 following a NATO bombing campaign that drove out Serbian forces, who were accused of ethnic cleansing. Albanians constitute almost 90 percent of Kosovo's two million people.

Turkey has had 350 peacekeepers deployed in Kosovo as part of the 17,500-strong NATO-led peacekeeping force since 1999. The force is responsible for establishing and maintaining security in Kosovo.

For further information please visit

59 posted on 09/24/2006 3:51:26 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Torie

there is so much disinformation from so many sides, it's almost mindboggling. The problem arises, for anyone; that when ones "ego" or "reputation" is challenged, a person may grab on too tightly for "personal" reasons, instead of being open minded that he or she just might not have all the facts, and be willing to concede to a point or spawn an epiphany; not to be confused with a medical condition requiring surgery.....:))) Okay, I'll get serious here.....

I love your accent.....I can tell it from your writing.

Those in the government are caught up in a bind. You step out of line in this official story, and you are history in a New York minute. So, you just ignore the truth and stick with the fabricated version, or the exaggerated version to make life easier. "I couldn't make a difference, so why buck the system"......"It pays the bills"...etc.....

We are in a serious bind.........I'm hoping that someone like Hoplite can show me what my findings are just rantings.....but, the names, events, strategies, organizations are all linked in most all of the operations...and decisions made in the past all are starting to make sense.

60 posted on 09/24/2006 4:00:38 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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