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A Combative Clinton Defends Record on Fighting Terrorism
WashPost ^ | 9-24-06 | Michael Grunwald

Posted on 09/23/2006 8:37:08 PM PDT by STARWISE

Former president Bill Clinton angrily defended his administration's counterterrorism record during a Fox News interview to be aired today, while accusing "President Bush's neocons" and other Republicans of ignoring Osama bin Laden until the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Clinton had planned to discuss his climate change initiative during his appearance on "Fox News Sunday," but he turned combative after host Chris Wallace asked why he hadn't "put bin Laden and al-Qaeda out of business." Clinton shot back that "all the conservative Republicans" who now criticize him for inattention to bin Laden used to criticize him for over-attention to bin Laden.Clinton said he authorized the CIA to kill bin Laden, and even "contracted with people to kill him." He also said he had a plan to attack Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban and hunt for bin Laden after the attack on the USS Cole, but the CIA and FBI refused to certify that bin Laden was responsible, and Uzbekistan refused to allow the United States to set up a base.

By contrast, Clinton said the Bush administration's neoconservatives "had no meetings on bin Laden for nine months," believing he had been "too obsessed with bin Laden."

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Clinton : There is not a living soul in the world who thought Osama bin Laden had anything to do with Black Hawk down or was paying any attention to it, or even knew al-Qaeda was a going concern in October '93.

Wallace : I understand.

Clinton : No, no, wait. Don't tell me that -- you asked why didn't I do more to bin Laden, there was not a living soul, all the people who now criticize me wanted to leave the next day. You brought this up, so you get an answer. But you -- secondly

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KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqueda; binladen; bluedress; cia; clinton; clintonlegacy; douchebag; fraud; guilty; liar; lyingpos; monica; obl; pantsonfire; shameless
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Wallace : -- Bin Laden says, but it showed the weakness of the United States.

Clinton : Bin Laden may have said it -- but it would have shown the weakness if we left right away. But he wasn't involved in that, that's just a bunch of bull. That was about Mohamed Aideed, a Muslim warlord, murdering 22 Pakistani Muslim troops.

We were all there on a humanitarian mission; we had no mission, none, to establish a certain kind of Somali government or keep anybody out. He was not a religious fanatic --

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Look at this meglomaniac!


1 posted on 09/23/2006 8:37:08 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

Watch where you put your finger, Billy-Boy!


2 posted on 09/23/2006 8:40:10 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: onyx; Mo1; Txsleuth; Howlin; Peach; ravingnutter; nopardons; Coop; mystery-ak; BigSkyFreeper; ...

NEW PICTURE ---- CLINTON LOSING IT PING!!


3 posted on 09/23/2006 8:40:13 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Big ol alcoholic nosed lying rat bastard.

stopping terrorism...........BJ.................................................BJ......................................................stopping terrorism..........................................................Monica, come on in here sugar!!!!!!


4 posted on 09/23/2006 8:41:21 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: STARWISE
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Yeah, right.

5 posted on 09/23/2006 8:42:43 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: STARWISE

I really want to see this!


6 posted on 09/23/2006 8:42:45 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: STARWISE

Big ol alcoholic nosed lying rat bastard.

stopping terrorism...........BJ.................................................BJ......................................................stopping terrorism..........................................................Monica, come on in here sugar!!!!!!


7 posted on 09/23/2006 8:43:03 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: STARWISE
"IF he damaged himself, WATCH for all this buttlickers to come out in droves defending him against FOX and those EVIIIIILLLL right wingers! Just you watch! The NYSlimes will be the first to lead off with accusing FOX and the extreme right wing with a conspiracy to destroy bubba's legacy! BANK ON IT!"

I posted this on another thread early evening....IT didn't take the COMpost too long to jump into BUBBA'S defense! Watch for the most diabolical display of united among the RATS for their beloved demon god!

8 posted on 09/23/2006 8:43:06 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: shankbear

SORRY, HIT THE POST BUTTON TWICE...........SORRY!!!!!!!


9 posted on 09/23/2006 8:43:49 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: STARWISE

I gotta tell you....the FIRST time he jabbed that finger at me, it would have gotten shoved back in his face.


BTW...I wonder if Chris was having visions of doing the "snoopy dance" in his head when Clinton was "going off"?? You know, thinking something like, "oooeee, this is a WINNER, I am gonna make ALL of the networks pay attention tot his baby"..


10 posted on 09/23/2006 8:44:46 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: shankbear
Yeah I noticed his bulbous was getting bigger....I am referring to his nose people
11 posted on 09/23/2006 8:44:57 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: STARWISE

Clinton is acting damned guilty. He thinks we can't find out the truth about him and his actions. It's not like it used to be when there was only nightly 'news'.


12 posted on 09/23/2006 8:45:27 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: STARWISE

Boy, that movie really got to him, didn't it?


13 posted on 09/23/2006 8:45:36 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Txsleuth; All
"Wallace, a 30-year broadcast veteran who worked at NBC and ABC before Fox, is not usually considered part of the network's conservative commentariat, but Clinton accused him of doing "Fox's bidding" by preparing a "conservative hit job." He attacked Wallace for failing to ask Bush administration officials why Clarke was demoted from his counterterrorism job: "Tell the truth, Chris. Tell the truth, Chris. Did you ever ask that?" He also complained that Wallace had lured him to the interview "under false pretences," but when Wallace offered to discuss his climate change project, he replied: "No, I want to finish this now."

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He's a DEMANDING, AGGRESSIVE and OFFENSIVE FRick too, isn't he.

14 posted on 09/23/2006 8:46:55 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE


15 posted on 09/23/2006 8:47:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: STARWISE

"Screw you. So what if I had 27,375 days compared to his 234.
I was being stalked."



16 posted on 09/23/2006 8:47:16 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: STARWISE
Clinton has just given the Democrats their talking points for a decade!

No media personality will ever question that, and it will become accepted gospel. From now on, Clinton will be referred to as "the President who tried to kill Bin Laden."

The amazing this is that it took him 5 years to come up with these talking points.

Even as we speak, Democrats trying to appear tough on terrorism are working Clinton's arguments into their stump speeches. No one will ever question them.

No Democrat will ever want to. No Republican has the guts.

17 posted on 09/23/2006 8:47:24 PM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: STARWISE

Yikes! He looks stark raving loony!


18 posted on 09/23/2006 8:47:54 PM PDT by hardworking (Please read "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel Huntington - well worth it.)
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To: kcvl

Yes...it will be very interesting to see if any of the MSM that report on this, do their homework and verify what he says is "true" about Somalia..and all of the other incidents he was talking about.

I know here on FR...there were threads almost immediately with articles from back then that tell a different story...


19 posted on 09/23/2006 8:49:05 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: STARWISE
"..Clinton : ...that's just a bunch of bull.... "

Yup, Bill, it's always the same with you.

20 posted on 09/23/2006 8:49:12 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: Diogenesis

ROFL!!


21 posted on 09/23/2006 8:49:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
. . . "all the conservative Republicans" who now criticize him for inattention to bin Laden used to criticize him for over-attention to bin Laden . . .

I don't recall ever having a concern over whether this boobish miscreant paid too much attention to Bin whats-his-face. Do you? Please find an example of Republicans bitching because Billy was paying too much attention to national security issues.

22 posted on 09/23/2006 8:50:40 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: kcvl
"Clinton : There is not a living soul in the world who thought Osama bin Laden had anything to do with Black Hawk down or was paying any attention to it, or even knew al-Qaeda was a going concern in October '93.

Wallace : I understand."

Seems to me Wallace didn't call him out on this, instead he UNDERSTOOD! Huh?? Tough interview, I don't think so! It sounds like Chris wiped the floor with bubba in this interview, but in reality Wallace is another idiot who's eyes get all glossed over when bubba or Hitlery are in their presence! I have a feeling the WHOLE interview is a mini love fest where bubba gets his way!

23 posted on 09/23/2006 8:51:02 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Gondring

Who's the bigger pussy????? Wallace or Clinton............


24 posted on 09/23/2006 8:51:18 PM PDT by MamaLucci (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: Txsleuth; kcvl; Howlin; onyx; Mo1; Peach; All
WOO HOO .. MORE meltdown .. look at how personal and hostile he got with Chris:

...............You got that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever, but I had responsibility for trying to protect this country. I tried and I failed to get bin Laden. I regret it, but I did try and I did everything I thought I responsibly could."

25 posted on 09/23/2006 8:52:15 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

I know I am going to ask the "obvious" question here...but hey, someone has to:


What if President Bush reacted even HALF as crazy mad, as Clinton is....when he has gotten interviewed by say,..oh, Brian Williams!!

That interview Brian did with President Bush in the last few weeks was 10 times harder on him personally, than anything that Chris asked/said to Clinton.

We have the videos to compare, ....class vs. gutter snipe


26 posted on 09/23/2006 8:52:55 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: hardworking
Yikes! He looks stark raving loony!

Because he is!!!

If you dispute his 'facts' you are going to have hell to pay! If people don't see what a mean, hateful, lunatic he is they never will.

27 posted on 09/23/2006 8:53:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: STARWISE
. . You got that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever, but I had responsibility for trying to protect this country.

What a pathetic outburst from a former President of the United States. That is what I really call unhinged.

28 posted on 09/23/2006 8:53:57 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: STARWISE
Monica blew.

Al Queda grew.

L

29 posted on 09/23/2006 8:54:50 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Chris Wallace (certainly not Willam):
"You know, Bill. You are quite an attractive fellow."

30 posted on 09/23/2006 8:54:50 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

Reply #16.

Ding, ding, ding!!

The winner!!!


31 posted on 09/23/2006 8:55:23 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: harpo11
OH, another thing....BUBBA can claim that "IT's A BUNCH OF BULL", because Berger stole the docs that indicted bubba and him. Without those docs, bubba gets away scott clean!!
32 posted on 09/23/2006 8:55:34 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas
I have a feeling the WHOLE interview is a mini love fest where bubba gets his way!

Can you imagine a FORMER IMPEACHED President about to come unglued from his chair pointing his finger in your face during an interview?! lol! Chris Wallace was probably a little frightened by it all.

This is the kind of thing people who have had an encounter with the IMPEACHED one says he acts. He just proved them right!

Anyone who doesn't believe Juanita after this is also clueless! I guarantee you that he did beat her up! He proved that he is capable of more than that!

33 posted on 09/23/2006 8:57:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: STARWISE

He doesn't look too healthy.....wonder if he takes high blood pressure meds.....


34 posted on 09/23/2006 8:58:11 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: STARWISE
You got that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever, but I had responsibility for trying to protect this country.

YOU FAILED BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO "BUSY"!!! You were too busy trying to get reelected and getting blow jobs!

35 posted on 09/23/2006 9:01:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Txsleuth
What if President Bush reacted even HALF as crazy mad, as Clinton is....

Every Dem in the House and Senate would be calling for the men in white coats to haul the President away.

36 posted on 09/23/2006 9:02:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: MamaLucci

Chris Wallace got where he is because his dad is mike Wallace.


37 posted on 09/23/2006 9:04:41 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: shankbear

Snorting blow doesn't help that either...


38 posted on 09/23/2006 9:05:02 PM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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To: STARWISE
8 Years > 8 Months, D*CK!
39 posted on 09/23/2006 9:05:48 PM PDT by mattdono (150 Million bloodthirsty Arabs vs. 4.8 Million Jewish Israelis. That's not fair. [Off Sarcasm])
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To: STARWISE

I don't mean this as a defense of Clinton or criticism of Bush, but in all fairness, what did Bush do regarding Bin Laden in his first 8 months. Granted a new administration needs time to get set up and it would be unrealistic to see them make major moves in the terrorist issue that was somewhat below the surface at the time. However, if we find what Clinton did inadequate can we defend what Bush did not do?


40 posted on 09/23/2006 9:06:39 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: STARWISE

"He also said he had a plan to attack Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban and hunt for bin Laden after the attack on the USS Cole"

Bulls**t ..Clinton had a plan like Kerry has a plan.


41 posted on 09/23/2006 9:07:43 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: STARWISE

It is well known that Clinton canceled his daily CIA briefings for YEARS.


42 posted on 09/23/2006 9:07:50 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Gondring

Ha Ha! The truth is coming out and billy boy is upset about it. Bush ignored osama bin laden...what a joke. That donkey billy boy had at least 4 years and much more opportunity to take care of this menace and didn't. He turned the military into a gd social experiment with peanut funding, sliced the testicles off of our intelligence agencies so we have no intel and will not have any for decades, and ignored everything.
I remember in the 90's and being a vet the complete obliviousness of this administration and the American people for that matter. Our embassies bombed in '98 and the USS Cole. What was the general feeling of the administration and liberals? It was a huge B-F-D. Only when their decisions actually affected their reputation when two giant ballistic missiles hit our towers is when they all of a sudden 'cared'.
Ok...Bush had a whopping 9 months to convince Americans about the threat of UBL. I can't even imagine the turnover once billy boy left the white house. Hi Bush...here is a giant hot steaming pile of you know what. Oh, and in that steamer is that nasty peanut called usama bin laden, but it AIN'T NO BIG DEAL! It's ALL GOOD! Good luck buddy! I'm off to rewrite history about my presidency! Did I remind you that I support the troops?
But as Billy Boy said, 'He tried but failed' just like he said he didn't have sex with that woman. It's all a right wing conspiracy though :)









43 posted on 09/23/2006 9:08:17 PM PDT by SegerSkriv (I'm Rick Jayyyyymmmzzzz)
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To: Txsleuth; kcvl; Howlin; onyx; Mo1; Peach; All
For the files and bookmarks ...... I don't know of it's veracity, but it's a HUGE timeline and report from Time.

Time Mag - "Special Report - The Secret History"

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Somalia, needless and tragically awful chapter for our brave troops. This from Frontline/PBS report .. Ambush in Mogadisu

Excerpt:

Massacre of Pakistani troops; the hunt for Aidid

During an inspection of a Somali arms weapons storage site, 24 Pakistani soldiers are ambushed and massacred. The next day, the UN Security Council issues an emergency resolution calling for the apprehension of "those responsible" for the massacre. Though Aidid is not specifically named in the resolution, it is, in effect, a call to apprehend him. Twelve days later, Admiral Howe orders Aidid's arrest, offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to his apprehension.

June 8 - Special Forces requested

In the aftermath of the June 5 massacre, Admiral Howe first requests a counterterrorist hostage rescue force from Washington because they he they needed more extensive military capability to deal with the escalating violence. No such troops are forthcoming until Task Force Ranger is deployed in August.

June 12-16 - Attacks on Aidid's strongholds

US and UN troops begin attacking various targets in Mogadishu associated with Aidid, including a radio station and ammunition depots. The peacekeepers are now at war with Aidid.

July 12 - Abdi house attack

In a major escalation, American Cobra helicopters attack a house in south Mogadishu where a group of clan leaders are meeting, destroying the building with TOW missiles and cannon fire and killing a number of Somalis. Four western journalists who had gone to investigate are beaten to death by an angry mob. August 8 - Americans killed by land mines

Four American military police are killed by a remote detonated land mine set off by Somalis. Two weeks later, six more US soldiers are wounded in a similar attack. This gets attention in America, and shortly thereafter, Task Force Ranger is deployed to Somalia.

August 26 - US Special Forces arrive in Somalia

US Army Task Force Ranger flies into Mogadishu -- 440 elite troops from Delta Force and the U.S. Rangers. Led by Major General William F. Garrison, their mission is to capture Aidid. They begin pursuing Aidid and his top lieutenants, with sporadic success.

September - Carter negotiating with Aidid

In the midst of the manhunt, the Clinton administration opens a secret initiative to negotiate with Aidid. Former president Jimmy Carter, who had a previous relationship with Aidid, volunteers to act as intermediary. The US military commanders in Mogadishu are not informed about this new initiative.

September - Request for armored reinforcements denied

In a decision that is later highly criticized, US Defense Secretary Les Aspin denies requests from General Montgomery for armored reinforcements, despite support for Montgomery's request from General Colin Powell.

Aspin says that he did not want to create the appearance that the US was increasing forces in Somalia at a time when they were trying to reduce military presence. He later concedes,"Had I known at the time what I knew after the events of Sunday, [October 3]. I would have made a very different decision." In December, he is forced to resign.

Firefight

Task Force Ranger's assault on the Olympic Hotel in Mogadishu, in search of Aidid, results in a seventeen hour bloody battle in which 18 US soldiers are killed and 84 are wounded. President Clinton decides to cut his losses. He sends substantial combat troops as short term reinforcements, but declares that American troops are to be fully withdrawn from Somalia by March 31. The hunt for Aidid is abandoned, and US representatives are sent to resume negotiations with the warlord. Two weeks later, in a letter to President Clinton, General Garrison accepts full responsibility for what happened in the battle.

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I never knew about PeanutBrain's involvement .. will these ignorant fools ever quit screwing up our business?

44 posted on 09/23/2006 9:09:35 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Honestfreedom

You can't be serious.


45 posted on 09/23/2006 9:10:02 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: goodnesswins
He doesn't look too healthy

He sure doesn't. He looks worse as time goes on. There is no telling what he has been doing. NONE! He has never liked sleeping. He has always been mr. party boy.

46 posted on 09/23/2006 9:10:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: STARWISE

It's all coming unraveled now, eh Willie?


47 posted on 09/23/2006 9:10:46 PM PDT by Just Lori
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To: Honestfreedom

Do you know what Clinton did to the Military during his 8 years.....do you???? And, then, see the post a few above this about Clinton's CIA briefings....


48 posted on 09/23/2006 9:10:53 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: Txsleuth

I KNOW Chris Wallace doesn't like Clinton---in this way he is about as different from his father as Kiefer is from Donald Sutherland. Did you hear, BTW, what KS said when he got an Emmy recently for "24"? He looked at it and said "I guess this means I'm gonna have to have dinner with my father."


49 posted on 09/23/2006 9:12:11 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: STARWISE

So thats combative? No wonder Bin Laden got away.


50 posted on 09/23/2006 9:12:23 PM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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