Posted on 09/24/2006 6:36:02 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
RIO GRANDE CITY — First it was a trickle, now it's a flood.
Rising numbers of undocumented immigrants from Mexico and Central America are streaming into Texas to give birth, straining hospitals and costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars, health officials say.
Doctors and health officials say they are overwhelmed by both the new arrivals and those immigrant mothers who already are in the state. Even Houston's feeling the pinch. An estimated 70 percent to 80 percent of the 10,587 births at Ben Taub General Hospital and Lyndon B. Johnson General Hospital last year were to undocumented immigrants, administrators say.
Also feeling the strain is Starr County, an already poor South Texas county that has the region's only taxpayer-supported hospital district.
Immigrants "want a U.S.-born baby" and know that emergency room staffers don't collect any money up front, said Dr. Mario Rodriguez, an obstetrician in Starr County.
"The word is out: Come to Starr County and get delivered for free. Why pay $1,000 in Mexico when you can get it for free?" Rodriguez said.
''When we are separated only by the distance of the river, it's easy to do," Starr County hospital administrator Thalia Muñoz said. "It's gotten worse, and it's because the economy in Mexico is not good and because we provide all these benefits."
Unfortunately, doctors say, Starr County isn't alone.
''Our little snapshot is duplicated in all the municipalities between here and California," said Tony Falcon, a Rio Grande City physician who was appointed to the U.S.-Mexico Border Health Commission in April. ''What you see here is what is happening in Brownsville, McAllen, El Paso and San Diego."
He operates a private family clinic and delivers babies at the Starr County hospital. About a third of his deliveries are what he calls "walk-ins" — mothers in labor showing up at the ER.
''Obviously, it has a huge impact on patient health and the kind of health care that's provided," Falcon said. "You don't get the kind of prenatal care you should get."
'Anchor babies' Immigration-control advocates regard the U.S.-born infants as "anchor babies" because they give their undocumented parents and relatives a way to petition for citizenship. They estimate that 360,000 of these babies are born in the U.S. every year and warn that the numbers are rising.
Once parents have an "anchor baby," they become more difficult to deport, said Jack Martin, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a lobby organization in Washington, D.C.
''It's a fairly big factor in complicating the removal of illegal aliens," Martin said. "Illegal aliens know that and, to some extent, we think they're being influenced into having children as soon as they get into the U.S. to complicate their removal."
Some lawmakers want to begin denying citizenship to babies born to illegal immigrants.
Birthright citizenship, as it is known, has been in force since the approval of the Constitution's 14th Amendment in 1868. But several bills under consideration in Congress would abolish the longstanding federal policy. Sponsors include U.S. Reps. Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson, and Nathan Deal, R-Ga.
In a largely symbolic move, the Michigan House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly on Sept. 8 to end birthright citizenship.
Undocumented immigrants say they are being attacked unfairly and think that all children born in the U.S. should have equal rights.
Socorro Gonzalez, an undocumented immigrant who in August gave birth to her fourth child on U.S. soil, said she and her husband aren't trying to take advantage of immigration laws or abuse the health care system.
''We're not here to have a child. We are here to work," she said as she cradled her infant son, Orlando Soto.
Gonzalez, 42, said she moved to South Texas four years ago to join her husband, a cabinet maker. Two of their older children were born at a private midwife's clinic, she said, and two were delivered at taxpayer expense at hospitals in McAllen.
Gonzalez said the benefits of undocumented immigrants' labor in the U.S. more than compensate for the costs of their medical bills.
''I don't see why they should deny a medical service if we're here struggling for this country," she said. ''Because of the help of Mexican workers, whether they want us or not, this country is progressing."
Still, someone has to pay the bills, and not everyone is happy about that.
Uncollected medical bills Starr County Memorial Hospital had $3.6 million in uncollected medical bills in 2005, up from $1.5 million in 2002. The total when fiscal 2006 ends on Sept. 30 is expected to hit $3.9 million, chief financial officer Rafael Olivarez said. Unpaid bills for the past five years will reach nearly $13 million, he said.
To make up for the shortfall, Starr County's hospital district is proposing a 25 percent tax hike.
Already, the U.S. government is pitching in, setting aside $1 billion in Medicaid funds to pay for emergency care received by undocumented migrants over the next four years.
But Olivarez said getting the reimbursements isn't easy. Federal officials ''told us at a meeting they would pay us about 20 cents on the dollar," he said. "But it's better than nothing."
No one knows for sure how many undocumented immigrants there are or what they cost the health care system. Most hospitals don't ask whether patients have papers.
Total cost unknown
''It puts them in the position of being border police," said Amanda Engler, a spokeswoman for the Texas Hospital Association in Austin.
Harris County Hospital District officials say their policy is not to question patients directly about their citizenship.
''We do not explicitly ask if our patients are illegal, but we do ask them for proof of Harris County residency," district spokeswoman Shannon Rasp said. "Often citizenship status becomes clearer when billing issues come up."
Eighty-three percent of the undocumented immigrants receiving in-patient care at the district's hospitals and clinics last year were from Mexico, officials said. Six percent were from El Salvador or Guatemala. And the remaining 11 percent were from such countries as Britain, Canada, Haiti, India, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria and Vietnam.
''Using anecdotal information provided us by our staff, statistics from other public hospital systems and our patient demographics, we believe that approximately 70 to 80 percent of our obstetrics patients are undocumented," Rasp said.
In all, 57,072 patients visited the district's hospitals, clinics and health centers last year, and nearly a fifth were undocumented, Rasp said. The cost of their treatment was $97.3 million, up from $55 million in 2002.
Just unreal....are we this stupid?
Oh, they're just here to get the WIC that Americans don't want. Incidentally, I've noticed over the past year that baby formula is now kept under lock and key. What the hell is up with that?
Time to put a law into effect...no US citizenship if you are born of a mother who was an illegal alien at time of your birth.
My friend in Canada says that illegals have bypassed the whole "jobs Canadians won't do" routine. They just sneak all the way across the USA and across the border and go directly to the welfare office to announce their arrival and demand their money.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like a good place to start building the wall.
I can see it was expenive, but it was expensive eleven years ago too when I last bought baby formula. Back then, you cound go into any grocery store and grab the stuff right off the baby aisle where all the other incredibly expensive baby stuff was.
Anyway, I'm hijacking this thread with a symptom. The article explains the disease.
I'm sure Dane thinks this is great. But, I doubt we'll see the DU Troll on this post.
One of my local stations had a segment on it. Its being used in the manufacture of crystal meth.
You know, I agree with you, but I fear the damage has already been done. Fifty percent of the next generation of Mexico and Central America are already American Citizens. Thinking we can get a law passed by gutless Congress is a stretch, but making that law retroactive would be a miracle.
It's impolite to speak of another FReeper without pinging him/her. So, let's ping him/her if he/she is awake yet. This thread wouldn't be complete without invoking the "T" word or the "B" word.
If you are going to trash someone on FR (post 10), at least have the courtesy to ping them.
BTW, I'll take Dane over the knee-jerk hystericals that swarm these threads.
Baby formula? Really? Do, do they enter you in a computer database when you buy formula like the did when I bought Children's Sudafed last month?
No I don't think it is great, but you are going to have change the 14th amendment.
BTW, when you mention my name in a post have the guts to ping me.
everyone call your congressman and senator. listen to them laugh and mock you.
Actually the Europeans are stagnating with high welfare costs, high unemployment and a birth dearth of their own.
That's why the import muslims to pay for the generous welfare benefits they give out.
She's certainly got her ACLU rap down. Apparently, the kind mexicans are making us progress whether we like it or not. I guess all good things happen because of selfless mexicans "struggling for this country". I think "struggling" would include paying your bills. The truth is, they care precious little for this country except when it comes to the money.
As do also a lot of native born Americans living off the welfare dole.
Europe's working class is the millions of Muslims that they have imported. Given the choice, I'll take the LATAMs, thanks.
Sure does. Bolters my oft-stated contention that none of the other "solutions" to the illegal problem will work unless we gain control of our borders first.
I have come to the conclusion it is the official policy of our government to allow this invasion of illegal immigrants. Over the last 40 years American industry, politicians, and the Mexican government have promoted, encouraged, facilitated, and rewarded this importation of the poorest to the USA. Even now, with the issue on the front burner and the majority of US legal citizens against this stampede, absolutely nothing is being done.
Can someone explain to me why an advanced culture would import the dregs of the Mexican culture which depends upon fraud, graft, kickbacks and corruption in its society to deliver goods and services to its citizens?
As I don't have any need for baby formula I can't say how its recorded that you purchased it. Perhaps some other Freeper can supply the answer?
Mostly to thin it, make it look like more.
What??, can you support that importing Muslims actually helps the welfare state of France and England.. This I have to see..
Sounds good to me... it is long overdue an overhaul.
Why doesn't the federal govt, or a state govt, take a hospital, cede it to Mexico as an embassy, and move ALL illegals about to give birth to it. That way, the kids born there, would be on Mexican soil, and therefore NOT entitled to be citizens. Or better yet, fix the problem of anchor babies, as the current interpretation is not historically the meaning of the Constitution.
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One 20-year-old who grew up near Paris in Clichy-sous-Bois said he had stopped looking for a job and joined the rampage.
“Maybe I burnt cars. I know it’s not very nice of me but, to be honest, I am happy that things heated up everywhere to let everybody know that we are sick of it,” said Ahmed Zbeul, hanging around a courthouse Thursday to support friends on trial for theft.
The government has taken a tough stance on rioters, with Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy saying local authorities were instructed to deport foreigners convicted of involvement.
You are seeing reality...sad to say.
"An estimated 70 percent to 80 percent of the 10,587 births at Ben Taub General Hospital and Lyndon B. Johnson General Hospital last year were to undocumented immigrants, administrators say."
Incredible. They're still called undocumented immigrants, which only implies they left their legal papers at home by the T.V. set. Nothing will ever change until the dim-wits actually find their spine and use the correct words.
...ILLEGAL ALIENS...
So the point is, if someone else does it it's okay? We'll take care of our own family first, if that's okay with you. You're so invested in this pro illegal position, you'll say just about anything.
What's next, I know you are but what am I?
And the only way Airbus stays afloat is due to massive govt. subsidies, also Airbus had to roll the introduction of it's newest palnes, while Boeing is humming along with a good number of orders.
I don't look at a persons surname on welfare and them smear the whole ethnic group as you do. I condemn the welfare mentality.
How difficult would it be to resend the "Born Here & you're an American Rule?
This is one issue that gets me seething at BOTH Parties!
Yes.
You either have to repeal the 14th amendment or Congress would have to propose a new amendment which requires a 2/3rds majority vote in both houses and 3/4's of the states approving.
The truth is that America "progressed" far better a generation ago when it was not burdened by the overwhelming crime and tax burden that the illegal aliens are imposing on the nation.
It progressed with legal aliens. Quite a difference that funding illegal activities does not cure.
Says who, you? Maybe with a liberal, activist Supreme Court that could be how it's interpreted but the authors of the amendment made it clear illegal aliens would not qualify for automatic citizenship. So Congress is in their right to legislate through statute an end to the practice, then we can let this Supreme Court hear it.
I condemn the welfare mentality. Without exception. Now, will you condemn illegal mexicans that have the welfare mentality?
What is this "smear the whole ethnic group" pc claptrap? It has nothing to do with ethnic groups. If the humanoids that live in the area to the south of the United States were green martians (or white, if that's what your fishing for) the point is the same. No one comes in without permission.
Above is the first sentence of the 14 th amendment. That'a pretty clear language.
The best way to deal with the anchor baby problem is a new amendment.
Undocumented immigrants...in a sane world they'd be called what they are, illegal aliens. But that's not PC. Next we'll call them what the CFR suggests, 'trusted travelers'. We're paying for the southern half of this hemisphere's ethnic cleansing..i.e. riding themselves of unwanted, unskilled poor. This is not a healthy or moral concept and not good for any of the nations involved. Mexico in particular is becoming depopulated. This will lead to instability and civil war, and what will the US do then?
Apparently you haven't noticed the price of baby formula.
I read an article recently and, please don't ask me to produce
the proof of the article, that stores selling baby formula had to pull it from their shelves due to steeling of the product.
Squirting out the "instant citizens".
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