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Army deserter will return to face consequences (canada ain't so grand)
CNN ^ | September 23, 2006 | AP

Posted on 09/24/2006 7:56:12 PM PDT by Btrp113Cav

LEXINGTON, Kentucky (AP) -- A soldier who fled to Canada two years ago after serving in Iraq said he would return home to face consequences from the U.S. Army.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; War on Terror
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1 posted on 09/24/2006 7:56:18 PM PDT by Btrp113Cav
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To: Btrp113Cav

OF course it isn't they all have flip top heads like terrence and phillip, ugly bob, and scott.


2 posted on 09/24/2006 7:59:34 PM PDT by killermedic (Time to thaw out "The Duke!")
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To: Btrp113Cav; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...

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3 posted on 09/24/2006 8:02:25 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: Btrp113Cav
LEXINGTON, Kentucky (AP) -- A soldier who fled to Canada two years ago after serving in Iraq said he would return home to face consequences from the U.S. Army.

"I decided that I've got to go back and get this over with once and for all, instead of living in limbo up here forever," Darrell Anderson told the Lexington-Herald Leader for Saturday's edition from Toronto.

Anderson, 24, served seven months in Iraq with the 1st Armored Division. He received a Purple Heart after being wounded by a roadside bomb. But he said he quickly became disillusioned with the war.

Anderson, who arrived in Canada by way of Niagara Falls in January 2005, had hoped to build a new life north of the border. But his Canadian attorney missed a deadline for filing paperwork to have him declared a refugee, which would have allowed him to remain in the country.

He said that not only meant he could not qualify for a government work permit -- which he had to have to get a job -- it also opened the possibility that Canadian authorities might deport him, even though he had married a Canadian woman.

He said he's been scraping along, working odd jobs, relying on the generosity of Canadian friends and help from his family in the United States.

This summer, Anderson was among a group of American military deserters visited by "peace mom" Cindy Sheehan, who was in Canada to support sanctuary for those fleeing the U.S. military.

Now, Anderson said he is planning to turn himself in to a special processing unit at Fort Knox for soldiers absent without leave and accept whatever punishment he's given.

"I just decided that I've got to face my demons, put on my uniform, and go back and tell the Army that I don't want to participate in this war," he said. "I feel like I have to tell them face to face. I have to make my stand once and for all."

After reviewing Anderson's record, the commander could order a less-than-honorable discharge or refer the case to a court-martial, which could impose a prison term and a dishonorable discharge, said Fort Knox spokeswoman Gini Sinclair.

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Well, he can go to prison for a couple of years and THEN go back to Canada. Who needs him here?

4 posted on 09/24/2006 8:03:09 PM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: killermedic

Don't forget McKenrize Brothers from SCTV LOL!


5 posted on 09/24/2006 8:04:13 PM PDT by SevenofNine (I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy)
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To: GMMAC
From the article:

But his Canadian attorney missed a deadline for filing paperwork to have him declared a refugee, which would have allowed him to remain in the country.

Finally, a lawyer does something right (by doing something wrong). I hope he wouldn't have qualified as a refugee, anyway.

Is Canada offering us anything in return for taking a deserter off your hands?
6 posted on 09/24/2006 8:05:38 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: starfish923
So are you a German or an American? A German in the US?

As for the article, he could also face execution for desertion, couldn't he? War hasn't been officially declared, and so would this be a time of war (technically)?

7 posted on 09/24/2006 8:15:31 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: starfish923



Less-than-honorable my as_! Give this guy a dishonorable discharge.


8 posted on 09/24/2006 8:16:17 PM PDT by Timbo64
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To: conservative in nyc

So Anderson is forced to do the right thing because his lawyer screwed up while Anderson was trying to do the wrong thing? What a guy!


9 posted on 09/24/2006 8:16:53 PM PDT by james500
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To: starfish923
But his Canadian attorney missed a deadline for filing paperwork to have him declared a refugee, which would have allowed him to remain in the country.

So, he doesn't really want to come back here and get it over with once and for all, he's being kicked out and has no where else to go. I see now.

10 posted on 09/24/2006 8:17:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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Aren't keywords there so that they can be searched? Stop putting inane words there which most people wouldn't even consider searching for. Commenting is a good way of getting opinions across.


11 posted on 09/24/2006 8:18:15 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Oops. Sorry, eh?


12 posted on 09/24/2006 8:19:33 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: Timbo64

Yes give him a dishonorable discharge. No second amendment rights and no voting.


13 posted on 09/24/2006 8:46:04 PM PDT by therut
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To: starfish923
"Well, he can go to prison for a couple of years and THEN go back to Canada. Who needs him here?"

He served, he sacrificed. Doing so affects everyone differently near everytime.


W
14 posted on 09/24/2006 8:59:00 PM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: Btrp113Cav

http://www.hqda.army.mil/ari/pdf/s51.pdf


15 posted on 09/24/2006 9:13:39 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Btrp113Cav

Must be a little hard to find sympathy, as a deserter, in Canada when their soldiers are dying in Afghanistan.


16 posted on 09/24/2006 9:39:29 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Btrp113Cav

You know, as a woman-a mothering type person, I can't speak to what a man goes through. You try to raise boys to be men but really, it is a father who gives that strength.
Quite frankly, we are turning into a fatherless country.
Somehow,this does not surprise me.


17 posted on 09/24/2006 9:46:00 PM PDT by mingwah
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To: starfish923
But his Canadian attorney missed a deadline for filing paperwork to have him declared a refugee..

LOL... I wonder if he checked the attorney's political leaning before he hired him/her.

18 posted on 09/24/2006 10:10:53 PM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: starfish923

Or they can keep him and save us taxpayers a lot of money.


19 posted on 09/24/2006 10:15:28 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: WLR
This young man served in Iraq and received a Purple Heart. I respect him for that. When I was in the Marines, I never even came close to being in combat. But I did know several people who received other-than-hornorable discharges for what I thought at the time, and still do, were minor offenses. This is not a guy who went AWOL for a week or so because his wife two thousand miles away was leaving him and he went nuts and flew home. This man deserted in a time of war. This is why he deserves a dishonorable discharge. Out or respect of his service in Iraq, I would not want him to serve any jail time.
20 posted on 09/24/2006 10:38:13 PM PDT by Timbo64
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To: Btrp113Cav

http://tinyurl.com/pbc8v

US Army Specialist Darrell Anderson hated his seven months in Iraq. He hated the people he was fighting against, hated the people he was fighting for. There was hate between soldiers. And hatred against the Iraqi people. Anderson hated facing death every day. Knowing people who died made him hate even more.

Anderson is hoping to find that "normal life" here in Canada. It won't be easy. Right now he's stuck in a frightening legal limbo. With the help of his lawyer, Jeffrey House -- himself a Vietnam War-era "draft dodger" -- Anderson has asked Immigration Canada to grant him refugee status. It's a process that could take several years. Even then, there's no guarantee the powers that be here in Canada will empathize with Anderson's situation.

Frankly, gaining refugee status is a long shot. In fact, the Immigration and Refugee Board to which Anderson is applying has just recently ruled against granting such recognition to a "deserter" named Jeremy Hinzman, another of House's clients. Hinzman, who's been in Canada since 2003, was the first U.S. citizen ever to apply for refugee status in Canada.


21 posted on 09/24/2006 10:41:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Btrp113Cav

Darrell Anderson arrived in Toronto from Lexington, Kentucky in January 2005. He served 7 months in Iraq and was awarded a Purple Heart after being wounded by a roadside bomb. When faced with a second deployment to Iraq, he chose instead to come to Canada.

His experience in Iraq convinced Darrell that the war was unjustified. Innocent civilians are being killed, and young soldiers are dying for an illegal war. "Coming to Canada doesn't ruin your life," said Darrell, "it saves lives."

More here

22 posted on 09/24/2006 10:43:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Btrp113Cav
Darrell Anderson:

"I started to think ... what's it really for? I was willing to die for my country. I thought I was going over there to defend my country. But that's not what I was doing," Anderson said.There are no weapons of mass destruction. Innocent people are being killed every day. It's a war about money -- to keep money in rich people's pockets. There is no way I can believe in that. I still believe in my country, but I can no longer be a part of the Army or that war."

23 posted on 09/24/2006 10:46:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Btrp113Cav

Support is mounting for Darrell and his courageous stand. Two events are planned in conjunction with his return to the U.S. In Fort Erie on Saturday, September 30 at Noon there will be a rally in Lions Sugar Bowl and then supporters, including Iraq war veterans and military family members, will accompany Darrell as he crosses the border back into the U.S. over the Peace Bridge. (more info)

On Monday, October 2 supporters will vigil outside of Ft. Knox, KY to demand an immediate discharge from the military. More details to come!
For more info about these events or to pledge your support for Darrell Anderson e-mail: resistwithdarrell@insighybb.com


24 posted on 09/24/2006 10:48:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I wish the Army would just let them stay in Canaduh. We don't need them in our prisons. If they want to live in the frozen tundra for the rest of their lives it isn't anything to me.


25 posted on 09/25/2006 12:38:52 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs
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To: kcvl

"Support is mounting for Darrell and his courageous stand."

Oh Liberal dufi (plural of dufus) please stop... this kid won't understand what or why for another 20 years. Shame on them.


W




26 posted on 09/25/2006 12:43:16 AM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: Timbo64; WLR

What would Patton say? This maybe:

"We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men."


27 posted on 09/25/2006 12:54:19 AM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)
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To: Btrp113Cav
Just to be clear.

Canada has never given refugee status to deserters from the US forces.

Canada did grant landed immigrant status to draft dodgers during the Viet Nam era under an immigration law that was more liberal than the current one. This is not the same as refugee status.

The current crop of applicants who want to avoid going to Iraq and Afghanistan are not draft dodgers. They are deserters.

The deserters cannot directly apply for landed immigrant status from within Canada so they are driven to applying for refugee status.

The deserters were no doubt misled by popular notions about Canada and the Viet Nam era and no doubt by Jeffrey House's ideological stances.

Imagine their surprise when the Crown actively resisted their applications. Imagine their surprise when the refugee tribunal agreed with the Crown. Imagine their dismay when the Crown continued to actively resist throughout the appeal process.

The Crown resisted these applications under the former Liberal government and continues to do so under the current Conservative government.

Part of the problem is that the Supreme Court of Canada, in decisions made before these deserters arrived, has set the principle that once an alien touches Canadian soil he acquires all the procedural rights of a reident before courts and tribunals, including the lengthy appellate process and all the prerogative writs (including habeas corpus and certiorari).

28 posted on 09/25/2006 3:29:07 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Btrp113Cav; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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29 posted on 09/25/2006 3:36:51 AM PDT by Clive
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To: starfish923
"I just decided that I've got to face my demons, put on my uniform, and go back and tell the Army that I don't want to participate in this war," he said. "I feel like I have to tell them face to face. I have to make my stand once and for all."

Good. Sounds like he shook off a lot of bad advice he was getting from the lefties and remembered about the honor thing.

He made a mistake, he's owning up to it, and is going to try to make it right.

He's taken the first step toward redemption, he may still grow up to be an honorable man.

30 posted on 09/25/2006 5:52:48 AM PDT by Kenton
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Good. Sounds like he shook off a lot of bad advice he was getting from the lefties and remembered about the honor thing.
He made a mistake, he's owning up to it, and is going to try to make it right.
He's taken the first step toward redemption, he may still grow up to be an honorable man.

Yes, it's a good first step.

This summer, Anderson was among a group of American military deserters visited by "peace mom" Cindy Sheehan, who was in Canada to support sanctuary for those fleeing the U.S. military.
However, if his mentor is Cindy Sheehan, then he is doomed. We just have another America-hating liberal on our hands.

31 posted on 09/25/2006 6:33:14 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Clive
The deserters were no doubt misled by popular notions about Canada.....

That, in and of itself, makes them atypical... ;D

32 posted on 09/25/2006 6:41:51 AM PDT by CaptainCanada (Assalamu Alaykum - may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits...)
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To: starfish923
However, if his mentor is Cindy Sheehan, then he is doomed. We just have another America-hating liberal on our hands.

I wouldn't presume Cindy was his mentor, she just gets around alot. Jane Fonda probably didn't convert any of the guys she visited at the "Hanoi Hilton" after all, she just got a lot of publicity. Same with Cindy the Media Whore .

It sounds to me like Cindy failed with this guy, that's what I was referring to when I spoke about shaking off "a lot of bad advice he was getting from the lefties".

When a young man makes a mistake and comes forward to face the music, it's a sign to me that he is about to become a grown man.

I hope that is the case here. We should pray for this guy.

33 posted on 09/25/2006 6:54:09 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: skr; conservative in nyc
"Or they can keep him and save us taxpayers a lot of money."

Ironically & doubtless, the view of taxpaying Canadian conservatives is the exact reverse - LOL!

... although you could likely considerably mitigate your anticipated financial burden depending upon what's selected as to the particular nature of his eventual confinement. (wink, wink!)
34 posted on 09/25/2006 7:03:26 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: Btrp113Cav

Good riddance. After the damage done by the Vietnam-era American libs who hijacked our political process the last thing we need is more of the same.


35 posted on 09/25/2006 9:51:22 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Pluto's been marginalized! Call the ACLU!)
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To: Btrp113Cav

He must have run out of welfare.


36 posted on 09/25/2006 10:02:20 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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To: starfish923

Hey now. Why send Canada that POS. We don't want a yellow coward like that here. Only some dumb woman would provide shelter to a turntail. Mabe it is her that he married.
Our soldiers are fighting too and are signing up to do so.
No one wants someone like that. Mabe he should go & see if Osama wants him & get off him the Canadian dime.


37 posted on 09/25/2006 12:08:30 PM PDT by SHARI BABY (What a world we live in)
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To: conservative in nyc
Off our hands? He landed in our lap. How-that is a good question. It is a matter of our borders needing to get better. As we all found out @ 9/11
I think it was a really well timed flub up.
Alberta, Canada loves you Americans & back you all the way.
P/S, my boss is a New Yorker. So when it is written that your loss is felt world wide......
Remember, it was not our pleasure to have this turn coat here. However, it is a pleasure to return him for punishment.
38 posted on 09/25/2006 12:20:45 PM PDT by SHARI BABY (What a world we live in)
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I don't believe this.
Why keep him, does he face death. I think that if there are questionable things going on, there will be an inquiry at the end of the war. I think that he is pulling out all the stops to get the attention focus off of what he has done. Draft Dodging. Where were his worries about what is going on when he accepted his medal?


39 posted on 09/25/2006 12:37:48 PM PDT by SHARI BABY (What a world we live in)
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To: Btrp113Cav

AWOL crosses over to desertion when one does it to avoid deployment. This guy might be interested in knowing that.


40 posted on 09/25/2006 12:44:52 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SHARI BABY
Hey now. Why send Canada that POS. We don't want a yellow coward like that here. Only some dumb woman would provide shelter to a turntail. Mabe it is her that he married.
Our soldiers are fighting too and are signing up to do so. No one wants someone like that. Mabe he should go & see if Osama wants him & get off him the Canadian dime.

Well, Canada took our draft dogdgers, with open arms, way back when there was a draft. Canada also criticized the U.S. for Vietam and now Iraq.
So, it's not a leap of reason to say what I did.

Having said that, the war on terror, that is, the war in Afghanistan, does have Canadian soldiers. They are, without doubt, brave men who put duty, honor and coutry right out there where it belongs.

41 posted on 09/25/2006 7:50:54 PM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923
I can understand that. The Canadian people are moving farther away from the liberal side of things. If it were way back when, we probably would have had someone trying to get in the way of the Americans looking after their interests.
42 posted on 09/26/2006 1:55:10 PM PDT by SHARI BABY (What a world we live in)
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Gee being retired for 14 years, after NAM and the gulf war,and living near Ft Knox He makes, Me want to puke. guess if you dont like something in the new army you can just quit, be given a pat on the back and go home this poor excuse for a man, should be given a DD. and than be sent home to mommy SFC.(ret)H AIRBORNE


43 posted on 10/04/2006 4:44:30 AM PDT by wolfey1
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