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LA Gun Task Force Serves another Search Warrant
http://www.fiftycal.org ^ | 9 24 06 | John Burtt

Posted on 09/24/2006 9:09:43 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: Joe Brower
Not if you look closely.

We are now seeing the same propaganda the Germans were inundated with in the thirties. The LA Gun Task Force is now running political ads on television.
This is just one more step on the road to firearm prohibition.

Theodore Haas, Holocaust Survivor:
"Gun Control is a Prelude to Totalitarian rule...
Before Adolph Hitler came to power, there was a black market in firearms, but the German people had been so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would never consider buying an unregistered gun. The German people really believed that only hoodlums own such guns.

What fools we were. It truly frightens me to see how the government, media, and some police groups in America are pushing for the same mindset. In my opinion, the people of America had better start asking and demanding answers to some hard questions about firearms ownership, especially if the government does not trust me to own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust the government?

There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been saved if the people were not "brainwashed" about gun ownership and had been well armed."
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51 posted on 09/25/2006 12:02:12 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Blue Jays
Good read. Too bad "gramps" didn't test the loyalty and trustworthiness of his grandson.
52 posted on 09/25/2006 12:13:12 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
The tale illustrates the importance of making certain our childrens' moral compasses identify True North when needed!
53 posted on 09/25/2006 12:17:53 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: freepatriot32; Joe Brower

BTTT


54 posted on 09/25/2006 1:12:32 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: dljordan

the BATFE was the most ignored of agencies when Bush came to power. It is still filled with Janet Reno's appointments.


55 posted on 09/25/2006 1:32:42 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Joe Brower

I just shared this with my 18 YO son, and he asked why the gun owners of California haven't strapped on their guns and marched to the judge to take him out.

I sit and wonder why we gun owners of America haven't done so. What is it going to take?

And will this post bring the Gestapo to MY door?

I hope I don't have to find out if I'll go down fighting...I like to think that I would.


56 posted on 09/25/2006 3:49:41 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian ( You anti-American socialists can stop calling yourselves Americans now. ><BCC>NRA)
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To: freepatriot32

thanks for adding me..good post.


57 posted on 09/25/2006 4:03:34 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: 10mm
Sounds like the Tree of Liberty needs watering in California.

De facto registration leads to confiscation, arrest and possibly death. The wolves are going after those big, lovable, wouldn't-harm-a-flea lugs with 50cals, eating them one-by-one. The wolves can no longer be ignored.

Ir you thought the FCSA member lists were "protected," think again. How did this FCSA member get outed? BATFE at local shoots. That's all it takes: Note who has a 50cal and write down his/her name from the shooting range sign-in sheet or just observe which car he/she leaves in and write down the license plate number.

If you still have your 50cal and shot it at a match or other event, you could be compromised. Even if you sold it, shipped it out of state, you should consider arrest imminent. If you own other banned weapons, what are you doing in California?

58 posted on 09/25/2006 5:41:09 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Yeah, tell that to those who defend the election of every RINO that comes along. Just win is what you'll get, damn the consequences. As long as the person has an "R" after the last name, these people will breach walls to vote for them, and irritate anyone that points out the blantant stupidity of voting for RINOS.


59 posted on 09/25/2006 5:49:43 PM PDT by alarm rider (Those that vote for RINOS knowingly, have already admitted defeat.)
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To: All
Have any of you seen the most recent commercial? It shows the 50 cal. round going through two police cars (the doors) with enough energy left to be lethal.

Message to Joe Idiot Voter: anyone with one of these will be shooting at cops. (End Message).

My first response was "this gun has never been used to commit a crime in this state!!". Good for Ronnie Barret that the LEOs that bought his gun will have to get someone else to service it, since it's banning in Calif. Screw them and the benefit package/retirement/disability rip-offs that they rode in on. Badges should go only to patriots, not parasites.

Anyone who believes that those who 'serve and protect' wouldn't escort you and your family into ovens if given the order, is living in complete denial.

60 posted on 09/25/2006 10:57:10 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's time to end the war on hippie lettuce.)
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To: budwiesest

The politicians and the syatem are the problem. Not the cop on the street. Aside from a few bad eggs, they're just average guys doing a dangerous job, for which they get little thanks


61 posted on 09/26/2006 2:18:49 AM PDT by nancyvideo (nancyvideo)
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To: nancyvideo

The cop on the street should have a conscience and a brain.
The cop on the street should know right from wrong.
The cop on the street should refuse these unconstitutional orders.

The cop on the street cares more about his paycheck and pension than your rights;he knows he will get special treatment.

I once worked with the cop on the street.


62 posted on 09/26/2006 2:38:15 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

The cop on the street has enough to do fighting trial lawyers, ACLU, the public and the unions. Most, wisely, choose their battles with care


63 posted on 09/26/2006 2:59:47 AM PDT by nancyvideo (nancyvideo)
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To: freepatriot32

And California is one of the states leading the fight to abolish the electoral college. In essence, to eliminate influence of the smaller states that does not buy into the insanity of California, New York, Illinois, etc. A way to impose their 'successful' socialist democracy to the states that do not go along.


64 posted on 09/26/2006 7:06:02 AM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: freepatriot32
How far do we let this go before we stop ceding rights and fight back?

We already have fewer rights than the colonists did before the American Revolution. And yet probably less than 0.01 percent would join in a battle for liberty again. Sad.
65 posted on 09/26/2006 2:34:45 PM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: Ghengis

It might be unwelcome news to many in that the Constitution was not set up to give equal representation to everyone but had a bias in favor of the smaller and less populous States,who rightfully refused to join a union in which an entire State would be outvoted by a single large city of another State.

The inevitable result of simply counting the popular vote will be total domination by urban interests and residents whose needs and solutions are different from less populated areas. It is illegall in many,many cities to shoot even a BB gun in your own backyard as just one example.

City people are apt to demand more government services and regulations as well.


66 posted on 09/26/2006 4:57:51 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: nancyvideo

If the cop on the street can't understand the natural rights of the people he ought to find another job.I have no sympathy for the cops who are so busy being tax collectors and enforcers that they no longer keep the peace.

I despise all those involved with checkpoints and totalitarian methods.

SWAT teams are another load of crap:they hide behind their masks and machine guns when terrorizing residents but hide behind their cars when there is a school shooting.I worry about the mindset of someone who spends his time practicing sniping in a civilian enviroment.

As the older police officers retire and are replaced by young people who don't remember a time when you only got pulled over if your driving was obviously unlawful and you could expect any warrant to be served by firm knock on the door,and other wonderful laws criminalizing formerly normal behavior,we will lose more freedoms.

Officer Friendly ,where are you?


67 posted on 09/26/2006 5:12:31 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

Officer Friendly ,where are you?

He's covering his tail because of trial lawyers and bosses who won't back him up. I give these guys credit for a thankless job.. It's the system and politicos who should be reamed, not the cop on the street.


68 posted on 09/26/2006 6:12:30 PM PDT by nancyvideo (nancyvideo)
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To: freepatriot32

I notice that they are leaving the street gangs alone.

If either the Democrats regain control of Congress in '06 or a Democrat is elected President in '08, incidents such as this will be an everyday event in all 50 states until all legitimate gun owners are in prison.

Again, the street gangs and criminals the Government will leave alone.


69 posted on 09/26/2006 6:21:36 PM PDT by sport
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To: budwiesest

Anyone who believes that those who 'serve and protect' wouldn't escort you and your family into ovens if given the order, is living in complete denial.


60 posted on 09/25/2006 10:57:10 PM PDT by budwiesest

Truer words have never been written.


70 posted on 09/26/2006 6:35:54 PM PDT by sport
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To: hoosierham
I agree with you 100%. But, from what I have read, this popular vote movement is quietly gaining momentum. And it is flying very low, under the radar.

Glenn Beck also covered it a bit yesterday on his TV show.

71 posted on 09/26/2006 6:47:51 PM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Ghengis
That would be a disaster, and the installation of the system of tyranny known as "democracy" here in the US. The Founders, brilliant as they were, made sure that it was EXTREMELY hard to destroy the Electoral College. This was necessary because most people are quite frankly not smart enough or don't have the time to understand why the College is necessary to prevent dictators from taking power.

But once the working-class states, which by definition are the least populous, are thoroughly villified and mocked through the more populous areas of the nation, things will come precariously close to falling apart.
72 posted on 09/26/2006 7:18:25 PM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: nancyvideo
The politicians and the syatem are the problem.

Yes, so much about America is so upside-down due to politicians and special interests that it is barely recognizable. They instituted the War on Drugs (aka the perpetual employment act) and have steadily eroded the RKBA to a point where acts of self-defense using a gun could land you (the good guy) in jail/prison.

This last effort (to disarm the populace) has resulted in an explosion of 'bad guys' among the rest of the population, which feeds the need to get 'tough-on-crime', which leads to electing pols who legislate further limits on liberty in an attempt to curb 'crime'.

The guy wearing the badge is sworn to uphold the law. Thus, he becomes a part of the problem. The few 'bad apples' you speak of might include the occasional cop who'd look the other way after finding a loaded Glock in your glove compartment while you and your family traverse various parts of our state. Should this ever happen, sans a CCW 'permit', consider yourself a lottery winner.

My gripe with the badged-ones is that through a system that corrupts our constitution and the protections it was written to enshrine, their 'serve and protect' rings hollow. They have allowed themselves to become Tools For Tyranny. So, where's the honor? There is no honor in tyranny.

73 posted on 09/26/2006 9:29:55 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's time to end the war on hippie lettuce.)
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To: budwiesest

Your view of policemen seems extreme.
Ask yourself; Is it based on personal experience?? or could it be based on media reports (Keep in mind that media reports only cover the extreme examples)
I've encountered some macho cops but I think, as a rule, they are doing the best they can, just like most Americans.


74 posted on 09/27/2006 1:13:15 AM PDT by nancyvideo (nancyvideo)
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To: nancyvideo

Hey Nancy, I'm a former cop. Each officer takes an oath to defend the constitution, not cover his ass.

I have many friends that are fine police officers. I also see new officers come on the force each year. The younger they are, the less they understand that they should not follow unlawful orders or violate the constitution.

You're statements in defense of street cops prior to post #73 are just another version of the Nazi war crimes defense of "I was only following orders." I'm sorry but that just doesn't cut it. It isn't some faceless chief or politico who is breaking in a door, serving a search warrant without the affidavit and just plain violating law-abiding citizen's rights - it's a street cop.

Each officer, when faced with the choice of violating the constitution or following orders should default in favor of preserving the constitution.

Hell, it isn't really a choice.


75 posted on 09/27/2006 4:46:41 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: Abundy

Based on your experience, do you think most cops act like stormtroopers??


76 posted on 09/27/2006 6:33:02 AM PDT by nancyvideo (nancyvideo)
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To: Blue Jays

Blue Jays,
Thanks for sharing that article.

woolly


77 posted on 09/27/2006 7:32:19 AM PDT by woollyone (Preacher; "If there was more love in the world, there'd probably be a lot less dyin'")
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To: nancyvideo

Depends on what your definition of stormtrooper is.

Don't bother trying to twist my words or weasel out of your posts.

If any officer fails to respect the constitution in the execution of his duties, whether he is issuing a parking ticket or serving a search warrant, he is in violation of his oath.


78 posted on 09/27/2006 12:20:17 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: Abundy
Erosion of honor and failure to understand constitutional issues as related to an oath of office is not limited to law enforcement officers. I was dismayed when Stormin Norman's first general order in Gulf War I included a prohibition on carrying privately owned weapons. Personal weapons were included in the same sentence as illegal drugs, alcohol, and pornography. I knew one officer who took his Browning 9mm anyway since his issue WWII vintage .45 would only operate as a single shot. After the war was over and just before he came home, an NCO (God bless Sergeants) warned him that he had been ratted out. Luckily, he disposed of the weapon (a Belgium Browning--it still breaks my heart)cause he was singled out for a 100% gear inspection and practically strip searched before being allowed to leave Saudi.
Several months after our return, a senior, rear-echelon JAG officer told a bunch of us over lunch that his most interesting case during the war was prosecuting a fellow officer for taking a personal pistol off to war. The officer who had ditched his Browning was sitting at the table with the JAG officer...and none of us had the nerve to challenge the lawyer.
A year or so later, general Chidichimo (sp), Commandant of the Military Police Center and School basically outlawed privately owned weapons on (now closed)Ft. McClellan. This prohibition included weapons belonging to those with carry permits recognized by state of Alabama.
So I'm not surprised that national guardsmen assisted the New Orleans police in their gun confiscation activities. And I am still embarrassed fifteen years later because I failed on those occasions to protest the infringements on a constitution that I swore to uphold and defend, against all enemies, foreign and domestic...
79 posted on 09/28/2006 6:18:58 PM PDT by LogToad (Logtoad)
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To: wysiwyg

Another take would be "it's dangerous to be right when the government is controlled by the left?


80 posted on 09/28/2006 6:31:33 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Blue Jays

I have been looking for that story for a while. Thanks for posting it.


81 posted on 10/12/2006 1:01:23 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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