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Allen Denies College Use of Racial Slur
Forbes ^ | 9/25/06 | BOB LEWIS

Posted on 09/25/2006 11:58:18 AM PDT by freespirited

Sen. George Allen on Monday denounced as "ludicrously false" claims from a former college football teammate that he frequently used a racial slur to refer to black people.

Dr. Ken Shelton, now a radiologist in Hendersonville, N.C., also alleges that Allen, a former University of Virginia quarterback, once stuffed the severed head of a deer into a black household's oversized mail box.

In an Associated Press interview Monday, Allen vehemently denied the allegations Shelton made in an article published Sunday in the online magazine Salon.com and an AP interview Sunday night. His campaign released statements from four other ex-teammates defending Allen and rejecting Shelton's claims.

"The story and his comments and assertions in there are completely false," Allen said during an interview with AP reporters and editors. "I don't remember ever using that word and it is absolutely false that that was ever part of my vocabulary."

Questions about racial insensitivity have dogged the Republican throughout his re-election bid against Democrat Jim Webb. His use of the word "macaca" in referring to a Webb campaign volunteer of Indian descent in August prompted an outcry. The word denotes a genus of monkeys and, in some cultures, is considered an ethnic slur.

Shelton, a tight end and wide receiver for the Cavaliers in the early 1970s, said Allen used the N-word only around white teammates.

During a deer hunt with Allen in the early 1970s, Shelton said, Allen asked whether black families lived in the area before stuffing a female deer's head into the mail box of a black household.

"George insisted on taking the severed head, and I was a little shocked by that," Shelton said.

"This was just after the movie "The Godfather" came out with the severed horse's head in the bed," Shelton told the AP.

Doug Jones, who said he roomed with Shelton at Virginia, said in a statement that he never saw or heard anything from Allen that supports Shelton's claims.

"I never heard George Allen use any racially disparaging word nor did I ever witness or hear about him acting in a racially insensitive manner," Jones said.


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Notice how no one has asked Dr. Shelton why, if he was so offended at this deer stuffing incident (which I doubt happened), why he did nothing about it?
1 posted on 09/25/2006 11:58:19 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

The point is this: Where, oh where, has Dr. Shelton been during all of the past elections involving George Allen?

You are quite right, though; if this action so offended Dr. Shelton, why did he not mention it during all of George Allen's other elections?

This is an organized hit job 'cause the Dems in VA hate George Allen's guts because he stands with the president on the war on terror.


2 posted on 09/25/2006 12:01:43 PM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: freespirited

this is nothing more than a fabricated incident (or set of incidents). im very curious about this Dr. salon is slime for printing such a BS story on a good senator. george allen is a good dude.


3 posted on 09/25/2006 12:02:38 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: freespirited

Shelton has previously donated money to Rat candidates. Source:

http://tinyurl.com/zqbww


4 posted on 09/25/2006 12:03:15 PM PDT by Hannibal Hamlin
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To: freespirited

The vast left wing conspiracy is at it again. Why is this the first this Shelton loser is mentioning this after Allen twice ran for governor and for the senate in 2000? A total bunch of b.s. by a Democratic smear machine that will stop at nothing to win congressional control in November. Allen should sue Shelton and the DNC for slander.


5 posted on 09/25/2006 12:03:21 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: freespirited

Shelton’s brain must be poisoned by radiation, or he is overly partaking in the Hendersonville area famed moon shine……………


6 posted on 09/25/2006 12:04:32 PM PDT by yoe
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To: freespirited
Shelton said, Allen asked whether black families lived in the area before stuffing a female deer's head into the mail box of a black household.

Would a deer's head, esp. if it had horns, really fit into a standard mailbox? And how would Allen have known the people who lived there were black if he wasn't even from the area? This is such a smear.

7 posted on 09/25/2006 12:05:32 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: freespirited

OK now George. That is all that needs to be said. Now STFU about it.


8 posted on 09/25/2006 12:06:03 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: freespirited

If you opened your mailbox one day and found that someone had stuffed a deer head in it, wouldn't you maybe tell someone about it, such as the police?


9 posted on 09/25/2006 12:06:34 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: freespirited

Who is Ken Shelton?


10 posted on 09/25/2006 12:06:41 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: MikeA

This man is SOOO evil he probably shot a doe or Bambi.


11 posted on 09/25/2006 12:06:50 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: freespirited
And next week the man will start another 3 months of unecessary apologies of some (assuming he's finished with the first wave)

If the man will spend week after week of apologies as he has been doing what will he do legistlatively to prove he's not a racist>

Im also afraid the Pope may fall into this same situation.

13 posted on 09/25/2006 12:08:06 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: freespirited

The left wants VA real bad.


14 posted on 09/25/2006 12:08:55 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: bmwcyle

Yep, they smell blood--and will pull out all the stops to get him now.


15 posted on 09/25/2006 12:09:49 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: stockstrader

I wonder what's the over-under for this being front page news in the Washington Post tomorrow?


16 posted on 09/25/2006 12:12:37 PM PDT by half-cajun
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To: CFC__VRWC
If you opened your mailbox one day and found that someone had stuffed a deer head in it, wouldn't you maybe tell someone about it, such as the police?

I think the police would say to call Animal Control, and I doubt they would have 35 year old records.

I still find this allegation very hard to believe. However, I will defer to the deer hunters as to how likely it is that a deer head would fit into a roadside mailbox.

17 posted on 09/25/2006 12:13:57 PM PDT by freespirited (Have you hugged a terrorist today? 1-800-JMC-CAIN)
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Why would you have posted those remarks? What do they have to do with the latest attacks on Senator Allen?


18 posted on 09/25/2006 12:14:41 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

ping a ding ding


19 posted on 09/25/2006 12:15:37 PM PDT by freespirited (Have you hugged a terrorist today? 1-800-JMC-CAIN)
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To: stockstrader

I suspect the Dems were saving a lot of this manufactured dirt for 2008 in cae Allen win the GOP nomination for president. I was telling people months ago that Allen would never be president because the Democrats had a few truths like the confederate flag hanging in his office, and would simply make up the rest. Now that they think they might have a shot at knocking him out of the Senate, all of a sudden they bring out this stuff. Webb's campaign is being run by some nasty pieces of work who learned at the feet of Chris Lehane in the Gore and Kerry campaigns.


20 posted on 09/25/2006 12:15:46 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Vote as if your life depends on it -- because it does!!!)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Would you just kindly shut up?

You're not helping.


21 posted on 09/25/2006 12:17:55 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: bmwcyle

Your tag line is off base.

The way for the rats to take over the senate is to beat Kean, chafee, dewine, santorum, burns, talent, allen, corker. They need 7 of 8 which is tough. Or we need to win 2 of 8.

Of the 8, 4 would be "rinos" or moderates and 4 would be conservatives.


22 posted on 09/25/2006 12:20:02 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I am confused, do Jews go around stuffing deer heads into mailboxes. Is that some kinda Jewish thing. Methinks the Webb campaign is running on empty. Look for more revelations concerning Allen's past, like he didn't like to eat spinach or some such. Wow, dems can really scrape bottom in the race baiting of an election.


23 posted on 09/25/2006 12:20:10 PM PDT by tigtog
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To: freespirited
Rush brought this up on his show today. The MSM and their liberal cohorts want to knock Allen out of any chance to be president. Would would like to do it now by denying him the senate seat. They must think Allen is a real threat.
24 posted on 09/25/2006 12:21:17 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: rogue yam

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/09/antitobacco_act.html

In addition to supporting a Democrat through financial contributions, which Salon acknowledges, evidently Shelton didn't tell Salon of his role in starting Tobacco Free For Life.

Why that might matter is because Allen opponents have criticized the Senator for being friendly to the tobacco lobby. Senator Allen, (R-VA), has accepted a whopping $33,000 from tobacco political action committees in just the 2005-2006 election cycle. Thats more than any other member of congress has taken from the tobacco companies in the past year.

Tobacco Free for Life (TFL) is a grass roots volunteer coalition of educators, health care professionals, survivors and victims of tobacco-related illness, and concerned individuals. Our mission is to prevent and reduce underage tobacco use through education, awareness and community efforts on a "cost free" basis to the youth and community of Henderson County.

TFL started in 1996 by Dr. Ken Shelton of Hendersonville Radiological Consultants and is currently operating out of an office on the Pardee Hospital campus. Pardee Hospital Foundation acts as TFL's fiscal agent and provides TFL with 501c3 nonprofit status.


25 posted on 09/25/2006 12:21:54 PM PDT by freespirited (Have you hugged a terrorist today? 1-800-JMC-CAIN)
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To: staytrue

They are worthless RINOS.


26 posted on 09/25/2006 12:22:54 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: MikeA
Would a deer's head, esp. if it had horns, really fit into a standard mailbox? And how would Allen have known the people who lived there were black if he wasn't even from the area? This is such a smear

A female deer (a doe) doesn't have horns (antlers). And yes, a small one might fit in a rural mailbox.

27 posted on 09/25/2006 12:23:28 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: freespirited

This smacks of desperation on the Webb campaign's part. Next they'll be reporting that he didn't share with the other kids during play time at kindergarten.


28 posted on 09/25/2006 12:28:12 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Kenton

Someone ought to test this Shelton guy and see if he can remember which home Allen supposedly did this to so the owners can be tracked down to determine if anything like that ever happened.


29 posted on 09/25/2006 12:29:20 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: freespirited
Get this: Dr. Ken Shelton donates to Democrats!
30 posted on 09/25/2006 12:42:57 PM PDT by dollar_dog
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To: freespirited

Hmm-m-m-m...., having been ignored by him in letters waiting for responses, I'm no Allen fan BUT I kind of doubt his use of the "N" word on the college gridiron. Allen was a pathetic q.b. for the Cavaliers and African-American teammates saved him (by SOMEHOW snagging his errant, wobbly passes) or he would have gone down as the WORST passer in school history! (Believe it or not, Ted Kennedy was a better player at Harvard than Allen was at U.Va.--as Kennedy even got an invite with the Green Bay Packers to tryout at linebacker).


31 posted on 09/25/2006 12:45:21 PM PDT by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: MikeA
Someone ought to test this Shelton guy and see if he can remember which home Allen supposedly did this to so the owners can be tracked down to determine if anything like that ever happened.

Several observations here:

1. Boys will be boys.

2. Everyone has used the "N" word, people need to get over it.

3. It was a really crappy, small-minded trick, if it's true.

4. Boys grow up to regret some of the stupid stuff they did as kids. If this really happened, I bet Allen regretted it a long time ago.

32 posted on 09/25/2006 12:46:43 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: Kenton

You're right on all points, but I'd love to prove this Shelton guy a liar. I'm not content to just say "boys will be boys" when there is no clear consensus that Allen was really like this. When Shelton's roommate and others who knew Allen say they know nothing of Allen's alleged racial indiscretions, that to me raises the b.s. flag on Shelton's claims. It would be fun to slam them shut to show the left wing hatchet job being done on Allen.


33 posted on 09/25/2006 12:51:42 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: Kenton
Everyone has used the "N" word, people need to get over it.

I haven't. Not once.

34 posted on 09/25/2006 12:53:45 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: MikeA
Would a deer's head, esp. if it had horns, really fit into a standard mailbox?

What do you think?


35 posted on 09/25/2006 1:00:14 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Kenton

I can't say that I've never used the word but I can't remember ever using it derogatorily to describe either a black individual or blacks as a group.


36 posted on 09/25/2006 1:00:32 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Alter Kaker
Lots of people, including African Americans, use racial tags all the time, more so when they are young and careless.

You never know what Allen did as a college student, but I have to say this accusation seems suspiciously of the "They can never prove it didn't happen" variety. A deer's head in a mailbox would not go unnoticed, it probably would result in a police report maybe even a newspaper article. I hope they didn't dig up an old report and then retro fit it to an accusation against Allen.

37 posted on 09/25/2006 1:06:04 PM PDT by Williams
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To: freespirited

Why is this a story? Even if it is true, the Democrats have nothing basis to complain given their continued support of Robert Bird, a former member and recruiter for the KKK. Heck, Bird even used the "n"-word just last year. Please explain the difference, Dems.


38 posted on 09/25/2006 1:25:10 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Kenton
Everyone has used the "N" word, people need to get over it.

Back in the early 1970's, I heard radical college students at my school, a small private liberal arts college, use the "n" word for fellow students who were obedient to campus authorities, immersed in their studies, and uninterested in radical causes. This was about the time that a book by Jerry Farber entitled The Student as a Nigger (Pocket Books, 1970), was in vogue among campus radicals. Farber, whose book had nothing to do with blacks, contended that colleges and universities were tools of the Establishment, and that their purpose was to dominate, repress, and exploit students while turning them into apathetic automatons.

39 posted on 09/25/2006 1:25:51 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: freespirited

Well, at least Allen wasn't active in the Ku Klux Klan--as was the distinguished solon from a neighboring state.


40 posted on 09/25/2006 1:29:02 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: freespirited

Doesn't matter if he said it or not. He is a white male and is automatically guilty. Besides the media will treat it as a proven fact and keep repeating it over and over again in their coordinated attempt to destroy this man.


41 posted on 09/25/2006 1:30:44 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (I don't trust the left)
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To: freespirited

I would be more inclined to believe this story if Dr. Shelton admitted that he too was racist at the time. Birds of a feather and all.


42 posted on 09/25/2006 2:09:39 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: D-Chivas

Someone replied and pointed out it's a female deer and they don't have horns. Still, I have a hard time believing a deer's head could fit in a mail box.


43 posted on 09/25/2006 2:33:41 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: freespirited
The liberal polling companies show Guiliani and McCain as the favorites for 2008.

The viciousness of their attacks against Alan shows who they truly fear.

44 posted on 09/25/2006 2:56:21 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
And BTW, I'll still support Alan over any of the other clowns in 2008. Forget it for McCain and Guiliani.
45 posted on 09/25/2006 2:57:37 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: dollar_dog

"Get this: Dr. Ken Shelton donates to Democrats!"

Anyone know his wifes name? Sometimes they try to donate through their wives to hide it.


46 posted on 09/25/2006 3:48:50 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: MikeA
This sounded way way too Hollywood for me. Well, I happened to find this (Jan. 9, 2006):
Deer Head In Mailbox
Several people in Hoke County got a surprise when they opened up their mailbox on Saturday. Deer parts were inside. One lady found a deer head, while others found hooves and legs. The Hoke County [NC] Sheriff’s Department investigated and discovered that a local teen had committed the crime, thinking it would be a great prank. None of the families pressed charges however as the teen agreed to replace all the boxes and apologize.

Now they are plagarizing their smears?

Reminds me of "pubic hair on a Coke can."

47 posted on 09/25/2006 3:55:15 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

Interesting. Good work.


48 posted on 09/25/2006 3:57:17 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: MaineVoter2002


Stop posting like a troll, unless you are a troll.


49 posted on 09/25/2006 4:02:56 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Fiji Hill

You mean the 500 year old democrat senator from W.VA?


50 posted on 09/25/2006 4:05:05 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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