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'One Degree And We're Done For' (Global Warming)
New Scientist ^ | 9-27-2006 | Pred Pearce

Posted on 09/27/2006 10:59:20 AM PDT by blam

'One degree and we're done for'

27 September 2006
From New Scientist Print Edition.
Fred Pearce

Further global warming of 1 °C defines a critical threshold. Beyond that we will likely see changes that make Earth a different planet than the one we know."

So says Jim Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. Hansen and colleagues have analysed global temperature records and found that surface temperatures have been increasing by an average of 0.2 °C every decade for the past 30 years. Warming is greatest in the high latitudes of the northern hemisphere, particularly in the sub-Arctic boreal forests of Siberia and North America. Here the melting of ice and snow is exposing darker surfaces that absorb more sunlight and increase warming, creating a positive feedback.

Earth is already as warm as at any time in the last 10,000 years, and is within 1 °C of being its hottest for a million years, says Hansen's team. Another decade of business-as-usual carbon emissions will probably make it too late to prevent the ecosystems of the north from triggering runaway climate change, the study concludes (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, vol 103, p 14288).

The analysis reinforces a series of recent findings on accelerating environmental disruption in Siberia, northern Canada and Alaska, underlining a growing scientific consensus that these regions are pivotal to climate change. Earlier this month, NASA scientists reported that climate change was speeding up the melting of Arctic sea ice. Permanent sea ice has contracted by 14 per cent in the past two years (Geophysical Research Letters, vol 33, L17501). However, warming and melting have been just as dramatic on land in the far north.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


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1 posted on 09/27/2006 10:59:21 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Were DOOOOOOMMED!


2 posted on 09/27/2006 11:01:06 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: blam

Yikes! One degree! Eeek!

Quick, under the desk, and don't forget the bourbon and cigarettes!


3 posted on 09/27/2006 11:01:56 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: blam

Nice thing about predicting something 50 years off, you can demand action and not be around to be accountable for being way, way off.


4 posted on 09/27/2006 11:02:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: blam
Earth is already as warm as at any time in the last 10,000 years,

Thank goodness. The Great Lakes were a frozen glacier 10,000 years ago.

5 posted on 09/27/2006 11:03:30 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: blam

Let me be the first to say it: Fush's Bault.


6 posted on 09/27/2006 11:04:01 AM PDT by GreenAccord (I'm GreenAccord and I approved of this message)
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To: blam

Yesterday it was 89 degrees here. Today it's suppose to be 92. We're doomed.


7 posted on 09/27/2006 11:04:39 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Always Right

Yea, but think of the possibilities for snowmobiling! I wonder what ice fishing would be like?


8 posted on 09/27/2006 11:05:12 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: My2Cents

A three degree rise?????

We're not doomed.

We're BOILED!


9 posted on 09/27/2006 11:06:14 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: blam

If only these guys would lose their jobs when their predictions turn out to be utterly and completely wrong...


10 posted on 09/27/2006 11:06:24 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: blam

ok, well, i guess im dead.


11 posted on 09/27/2006 11:06:25 AM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: blam
Earth is already as warm as at any time in the last 10,000 years

The midieval warm period was as warm if not warmer than it is today. That was just 800 years ago.

12 posted on 09/27/2006 11:06:55 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: blam

For more on the esteemed Professor Hansen, see also

World Climate Report
The Web’s Longest-Running Climate Change Blog

January 30, 2006 Hansen Revisited

"... We've been getting a bunch of hits from people searching on “James Hansen” since the New York Times and Washington Post have both run articles in which Hansen claimed he was being censored by the Administration.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2006/02/10/a-misinformed-public/#more-138


13 posted on 09/27/2006 11:06:56 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Always Right
Thank goodness. The Great Lakes were a frozen glacier 10,000 years ago.

Hey old-timer, where'd all these rocks come from?

Glacier brought 'em.

Well, where' the glacier now?

Went back for more rocks.

14 posted on 09/27/2006 11:07:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: blam
So says Jim Hansen...

From the Inhofe speech on the Senate floor from 9/26/06.

The “60 Minutes” segment made no mention of Hansen’s partisan ties to former Democrat Vice President Al Gore or Hansen’s receiving of a grant of a quarter of a million dollars from the left-wing Heinz Foundation run by Teresa Heinz Kerry. There was also no mention of Hansen’s subsequent endorsement of her husband John Kerry for President in 2004. http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/dai_complete.pdf

“60 Minutes” also did not inform viewers that Hansen appeared to concede in a 2003 issue of Natural Science that the use of “extreme scenarios" to dramatize climate change “may have been appropriate at one time” to drive the public's attention to the issue. http://naturalscience.com/ns/articles/01-16/ns_jeh6.html.

15 posted on 09/27/2006 11:07:19 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Larry Lucido
"Nice thing about predicting something 50 years off, you can demand action and not be around to be accountable for being way, way off."

Yup. Like LBJ and the 'Great Society.'

16 posted on 09/27/2006 11:08:12 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"Earth is already as warm as at any time in the last 10,000 years, and is within 1 °C of being its hottest for a million years, says Hansen's team."

We are not even as warm as we were in 1,000 years ago. So how can they know what the temperature was 10,000 years ago? And for the last million years guess they had temperature measuring devices that were being kept in a computer data base.

Someone needs to put some questions to this Hansen and first of all find out if he is a left-wing Democrat who wants to kill off the human species.
17 posted on 09/27/2006 11:08:16 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: blam

Hansen is the Trofim Lysenko of climatology.


18 posted on 09/27/2006 11:08:37 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: My2Cents
Yesterday it was 89 degrees here. Today it's suppose to be 92. We're doomed.

Same here!

Say! Wait a minute.......

We both signed up in 1998!

OMG! It's our fault!

19 posted on 09/27/2006 11:09:31 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: blam

If liberals are worried about a 1 degree temperature rise, maybe they should help us keep terrorists from getting nukes.


20 posted on 09/27/2006 11:09:59 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: blam

hahahah, ONE DEGREE and we are done for?? Better stop with the hot air then, you blathering faux-scientists. Better shut down the Senate, too. Stopping Teddy alone could help a LOT.


21 posted on 09/27/2006 11:11:00 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: KamperKen

and Algore is the Stalin..


22 posted on 09/27/2006 11:11:35 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: RexBeach
Wait...I get it...we ARE doomed.

What we're all forgetting is to convert the 1 degree Celsius warming to Fahrenheit. If it goes up 1 degree Celsius, that would be nine-fifths plus 32 degrees F. That would make the warmest summer days more than 125 degrees F.

I better give generously to an environmental cause soon. And raise my taxes. Yeah, do that.

Phew, crisis averted. That was close.
23 posted on 09/27/2006 11:11:54 AM PDT by GreenAccord (I'm GreenAccord and I approved of this message)
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To: blam
Oh, please...!


24 posted on 09/27/2006 11:12:07 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: blam
Further global warming of 1 °C defines a critical threshold. Beyond that we will likely see changes that make Earth a different planet than the one we know."

Earthquakes, volcanoes
Cats and Dogs living together
MASS HYSTERIA ....


25 posted on 09/27/2006 11:12:16 AM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: rahbert

"and Algore is the Stalin."

lol! Indeed!


26 posted on 09/27/2006 11:14:48 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: blam

The temperature changes by more than one degree every hour in most places on the planet. If anti-business political groups weren't paying scientists lots of money to take all these temperature measurements and extrapolate them into a model that gives the output that is desired politically, who would even notice an average increase of a degree?

27 posted on 09/27/2006 11:15:21 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: N. Theknow
We both signed up in 1998!
OMG! It's our fault!

Hey! I signed up in 1998. I demand that it be my fault too!

28 posted on 09/27/2006 11:16:54 AM PDT by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Always Right
Earth is already as warm as at any time in the last 10,000 years

Why, just this morning I was watching my local weather guy. He put up the numbers...

High 73 Low 49

Record High 72 in 7994 bc

29 posted on 09/27/2006 11:17:19 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: blam

Well, we are near the top temperatures of an interglacial period, according to the Antarctic ice core studies. Which means that very soon, relatively speaking, the problem will likely be plummeting temperatures as Earth goes into another glacial period. Bad news, that, for Northern Europe in particular.


30 posted on 09/27/2006 11:17:27 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: KamperKen

I really like that analogy. It works on many levels.

Speaking of Russians, a person that never comes up in the media with respect to the global warming issue is Mikhail Gorbachev, his Gorbachev Institute, The Gorbachev Foundation of North America, Green Cross International, or Global Green USA.

These organizations are all active in promoting sustainable this-and-that, green ecology, and global warming issues yet appear to work behind the scenes.


31 posted on 09/27/2006 11:18:11 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: blam

Hmmmm. I would speculate this guy enjoys more than six degrees of separation from sanity...


32 posted on 09/27/2006 11:18:40 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Once again, raw sewage has overflowed into the arab street)
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To: Always Right

This article is more junk science from a supposedly reputable source. Whenever I see a "scientific" article about global warming, I think "agenda-driven."


33 posted on 09/27/2006 11:18:56 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Always Right

Don't we also need the obligatory pirate chart?


34 posted on 09/27/2006 11:19:28 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: blam

Jim Hansen? I thought he was dead?

35 posted on 09/27/2006 11:19:34 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Larry Lucido
Heard a Berkley Professor say the other day San Francisco weather will be like Tijuana's in 50 years; sounds terrible, if he had said it would be like San Diego (its next door neighbor) or La Jolla, that would sound pretty good.
36 posted on 09/27/2006 11:19:44 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: N. Theknow

shhh...we'll get banned. ;-)


37 posted on 09/27/2006 11:20:18 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: bboop
hahahah, ONE DEGREE and we are done for??

That one degree is in the new measure of 'Celtigrade.' In Celtigrade you're scrood no matter what. Unless, of course, you are Celt.

39 posted on 09/27/2006 11:21:37 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SF Republican

LOL...Good point. I love San Diego.


40 posted on 09/27/2006 11:22:06 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: blam

That's about the temperature difference between New York and Philadelphia isn't it?


41 posted on 09/27/2006 11:22:26 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: colorado tanker
Bad news, that, for Northern Europe in particular - when I visited France and was looking at the map I was shocked Paris is further north than Toronto
42 posted on 09/27/2006 11:22:30 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: GreenAccord
Phew, crisis averted. That was close.

Glad to hear that, I am out of Kool Aide.

44 posted on 09/27/2006 11:25:11 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: GoodHousekeeping

Global Warming hysteria never fed a starving child.


45 posted on 09/27/2006 11:25:11 AM PDT by Ieatfrijoles
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To: blam
MOONBAT ALERT: Unable to accurately forcast the weather three days in advance yet claim to know exactly what is going to happen fifty years from now.
46 posted on 09/27/2006 11:25:24 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: sauropod

mark


47 posted on 09/27/2006 11:26:27 AM PDT by sauropod ("Work as if you were to live 100 Years, Pray as if you were to die To-morrow." - Ben Franklin)
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To: SF Republican
Yes. Blam and SunkenCiv have posted some recent articles publishing research that Britain has been uninhabited for long stretches due to cold temps during glacials. I'm sure the same would be true for Scandinavia.
48 posted on 09/27/2006 11:26:28 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

Check Hansen's bank accounts for incoming cash from Algore. If improprieties are found, take him out back and shoot him.


49 posted on 09/27/2006 11:29:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: GreenAccord

If your day job requires any kind of math skills . . . quit immediately.

Now go back to the Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion tables and try again. You failed this test.


50 posted on 09/27/2006 11:32:19 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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