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(Karen) Hughes says it could take decades to alter anti-American feelings around the world
AP on North County Times ^ | 9/28/06 | Anne Gearan - ap

Posted on 09/28/2006 9:23:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON -- It may take decades to change anti-American feelings around the world that have been aggravated by war in Iraq, U.S. policy toward Israel and America's "sex and violence" culture, the State Department official in charge of dealing with the U.S. image abroad said Thursday.

"The anti-Americanism, the concern around the world ... this ideological struggle, it's not going to change" quickly, Undersecretary of State Karen Hughes said in an interview with The Associated Press. "It's going to be the work of years and maybe decades."

Hughes, a longtime adviser to President Bush, has worked for more than a year to retool the way America sells itself overseas, but she acknowledged that success can be next to impossible to measure.

A June poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press found that America's image in 15 nations dropped sharply in 2006. For example, less than one-third of the people in Egypt, Pakistan, Jordan and Turkey had a favorable view of the U.S.

According to that poll, America's continued involvement in Iraq was seen as a worse problem than Iran and its nuclear ambitions.

In the bleak National Intelligence Estimate portion declassified this week, the government's top analysts concluded that Iraq has become a "cause celebre" for jihadists, who are growing in number and geographic reach. If the trend continues, the analysts found, the risks to the U.S. interests at home and abroad will grow.

Hughes said the three-year-old Iraq war "is the most recent excuse" for anti-American grievance in the Muslim world.

"Much of the world did not agree with our decision to go into Iraq," just as there is long-standing disagreement with U.S. support for Israel, Hughes said.

Answering those complaints and defending U.S. policy is part of Hughes' job heading the broad category of U.S. outreach known as "public diplomacy." Although her job involves all regions of the world, Bush asked her to concentrate on reframing the U.S. image in the Islamic world.

"All you have to do is sit in a hotel room in the Middle East and watch the media and you see there is a lot, there is a big drumbeat out there going against our interests," Hughes said.

"I'm trying to approach this as putting in place the type of things that over the long run will make a difference for our country, because I don't expect that in the two years and ... three or four months of the president's administration that we'll see a significant shift."

Hughes has sent Arabic speakers to do four times as many interviews with Arabic media as in previous years and set up three rapid public relations response centers overseas to monitor and respond to the news.

Asked whether America's critics have any legitimate gripes, Hughes said yes.

"One of the things that I hear a lot, particularly in deeply conservative societies, is that parents feel kind of assaulted by American culture," Hughes said. "The sex and the violence that they see on television and movies ... some of the lyrics of our music."

The fact that American culture is so pervasive and accessible around the globe is "a double-edged sword," Hughes said. "Obviously, a lot of young people find our pop culture very appealing."

Hughes said the United States must be careful not to cast its fight against extremism and terrorism as a confrontation with Islam as a whole. She would not say whether she and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had advised Bush to stop using the term "Islamic fascism" to describe the ideology behind terrorism.

Bush and his spokesman used the phrase several times in August, but it has apparently disappeared from the White House lexicon since then. A check of transcripts on the State Department Web site indicates Rice, who is Hughes' boss, has apparently not used that phrase.

Hughes said that while she would not reveal private conversations with Bush, "that has been a subject of great debate within the administration."

"It's difficult to know what to call the ideology that we're up against, because it is a perversion of Islam," Hughes said.

"I use 'violent extremist,' because I think they are extremists, they are violent, they are actually mass murderers who pervert their religion."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alter; antiamerican; decades; feelings; karenhughes

1 posted on 09/28/2006 9:24:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

On the Net:

State Department's public diplomacy operation and Hughes bio:

http://www.state.gov/r/


2 posted on 09/28/2006 9:24:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

"All you have to do is sit in a hotel room in the Middle East and watch the media and you see there is a lot, there is a big drumbeat out there going against our interests," Hughes said."

I believe the same could be said about our dominate media!


3 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:01 PM PDT by landerwy
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To: NormsRevenge

I want America to be feared, not liked.


4 posted on 09/28/2006 9:29:26 PM PDT by fogofbobegabay
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To: NormsRevenge
Anti-American sentiment will always be both vigorous and pervasive as long a we're the world's sole military/economic superpower.

And I wouldn've have it any other way.

Better to respect/fear us than to like us.

5 posted on 09/28/2006 9:29:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: NormsRevenge
It may take decades to change anti-American feelings around the world that have been aggravated by war in Iraq, U.S. policy toward Israel and America's "sex and violence" culture, the State Department official in charge of dealing with the U.S. image abroad said Thursday.

It could take centuries to change anti-muslim feelings among Americans toward muslims.............

6 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:29 PM PDT by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: NormsRevenge

Heck, it will probably decades to alter the Anti-American feelings just within the Democrat Party of America.


7 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:32 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: NormsRevenge

A little more Karen and a lot less Anne, would have made this article more appealing.


8 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:51 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: NormsRevenge

It might help if the world press wasn't so intent on destroying President Bush ya think?


9 posted on 09/28/2006 9:32:35 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: NormsRevenge

There was a lot of anti-American feeling in all the terrorist attacks.

The rest of the world don't like us being successful and with us both fighting a war, doing well in the economy and noticing their internal Muslim cult members are stirring up as well, they have to hate us. God forbid they grow up and deal with reality.


10 posted on 09/28/2006 9:32:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge

My recollection is that the world has always been anti american.

The term "ugly american" has been in use since wwII or as the new crowd might say "like forever".

Yankee go home has been around forever too.

There is a good song by Saving Jane called "girl next door"

The world thinks the US is the prom queen and they are the girl next door.

You can hear the whole song at savingjane.com


11 posted on 09/28/2006 9:32:56 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: LegendHasIt
it will probably decades to alter the Anti-American feelings just within the Democrat Party of America.

Or in the State Dept, the Enemedia, American Universities.....

12 posted on 09/28/2006 9:33:08 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"It's difficult to know what to call the ideology that we're up against, because it is a perversion of Islam," Hughes said.

I suggest using the term Islamofascists.

13 posted on 09/28/2006 9:34:17 PM PDT by Retief
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To: NormsRevenge

Decades my @$$. Cut off ALL trade and ALL foreign aid and the scumbags will "like" the U.S. again just as they did before 09-11-01. Personally, I don't care whether the scumbags like me or not. I doesn't mean anything. The "media" and the 'RATS say that there wasn't any terrorism until we "invaded" Iraq. I guess that means they "liked" us when they flew our airliners into the WTC and the Pentagon.


14 posted on 09/28/2006 9:39:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Though compare America, say, with the the Netherlands where pot and prostitution reign. That said however, a little national introspection within our own culture should not necessarily be discouraged.


15 posted on 09/28/2006 9:43:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: All

Karen is stupid.

Changing anti-American feelings around the world can be quick and easy.

Here's the plan:

Elect a Democrat president who keeps a mistress, refuses to assert American influence and travels the world giving away money and apologizing for everything America has ever done.

It's a very simple formula that worked quite well during the last eight years of the 20th century,


16 posted on 09/28/2006 9:43:27 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: NormsRevenge


Sorry Karen, I agree with you but Hollywood isn't going to stop making anti American movies and television shows any time soon.

(sarcasm) They have free speech.


17 posted on 09/28/2006 9:43:40 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

The state department from the cabinet agencies on down needs to be laid off/fired/prosecuted/flogged until it starts serving US interests and obeying the elected official that has constitutional authority over it. It's another indictment of this administration. Tactically, Dubya's smarter than the last Bush that was in office, but otherwise he's just as mediocre.


18 posted on 09/28/2006 9:44:33 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: NormsRevenge

It's not really a surprise that the majority of the people in those muslim countries don't care for America with the way we are portrayed not only in their press but in our own.

Most of their leaders realize it's to their advantage to have good relations with us but that doesen't extend to the masses.


19 posted on 09/28/2006 9:44:54 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Karen Hughes doesn't have a clue.
Most countries hated us before there were anti-American feelings.


20 posted on 09/28/2006 9:47:29 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: fogofbobegabay

Everyone love a winner.


21 posted on 09/28/2006 9:51:56 PM PDT by VanShuyten (One of my hungry and forebearing friends was sounding in the bows just before me.)
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To: NormsRevenge
If we refrained from action out of fear that others around the world would be angry with us, then we would never act. And count on it: They'd blame us for that, too.Robert Kagan
22 posted on 09/28/2006 9:56:25 PM PDT by anglian
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To: NormsRevenge

Don't worry, they will all love us again when they need something!


23 posted on 09/28/2006 9:58:03 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: Tinian

Sometimes it's all we can do to conquer anti-American sentiment in America.

(Hmm... Maybe our University professors would look better in Islamist garb.)


24 posted on 09/28/2006 10:00:07 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Which North County does this refer to?

There are so many North Counties. Which State?

25 posted on 09/28/2006 10:01:24 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious.)
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To: thomaswest

SoCal, San Diego County


26 posted on 09/28/2006 10:06:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: fogofbobegabay

Hell, I want them terrified.


27 posted on 09/28/2006 10:08:49 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Don't worry, they will all love us again when they need something!

Next time one of these "allies" that constantly bad-mouths America gets in trouble, we should tell them "sorry, we're saving our aid for those that support us when WE ask." I think it would only take once to stop a whole lot of this gratuitous America bashing. They think American generosity is some sort of entitlement...it's not.

28 posted on 09/28/2006 10:11:36 PM PDT by shteebo
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To: NormsRevenge

One sentences tells all:

**"It's difficult to know what to call the ideology that we're up against, because it is a perversion of Islam," Hughes said.**


29 posted on 09/28/2006 10:18:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NormsRevenge

I could care less. Ask all those dying to come here...


30 posted on 09/28/2006 10:18:51 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: NormsRevenge
I admire Mrs. Hughes and she has an impossible job. But anymore, I really don't feel like a puppy dog begging the world to like us. What has the world ever done for us except take and then bite the hand?

Anyway, the US moved up to 1st place this past year in receiving asylum applications. What exactly does that tell us?

31 posted on 09/28/2006 10:32:45 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: NormsRevenge
It is futile to seek the approval of those who are so jealous and hateful toward the U.S., they are all wrong.

Many of the leftist in the U.S. are clones of the European and Communist left and are in love with each other due to their common hatred of traditional American values.

The only way to win their approval is to become a godless (or pagan) leftist like themselves.

32 posted on 09/28/2006 10:43:33 PM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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To: NormsRevenge

The worldview against America will really deteriorate when the rest of the world is overrun with Muslims.


33 posted on 09/28/2006 10:50:55 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Salvation

One sentences tells all:
**"It's difficult to know what to call the ideology that we're up against, because it is a perversion of Islam," Hughes said.**

That's for sure! This Administration either can not or will not face up to exactly who we are up against.

Islam.


34 posted on 09/28/2006 10:57:49 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: NormsRevenge

she has a point-- we'd better cut and run


35 posted on 09/28/2006 11:09:46 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: NormsRevenge

So I'm guessing the umpteen billion dollars we spent in 2004 rescuing umpteen thousand 'muslims' and others during the catastrophic tsunami didn't "win any hearts and/or minds"?

Get outta here!

As usual, we kind hearted Americans like to give give give, only to be hated continually. It's a pretty neat-o formula.


36 posted on 09/28/2006 11:41:32 PM PDT by adm5
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To: NormsRevenge
The other countries of the world may not "like" us, but at least they are starting to wake up and realize that we were right.
37 posted on 09/28/2006 11:49:45 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dear Karen, it will also take several decades to change MY negative opinion of the rest of the world (excluding a few goodun's like the Aussies).

As far as I'm concerned, right now they can all...well, never mind.

What's this obsession with being liked? Is our State Department made up of all the kids who couldn't get dates in High School?


38 posted on 09/29/2006 12:51:22 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: NormsRevenge
The problem as I see it, is the U.S. just doesn't know how to play the propaganda game. The leftists kick our butts around the globe, when it comes to spin. That's huge.

I am reminded of some of the NVC offensives in Vietnam, in which they got their asses kicked big-time. Even in our own nation, those victories for our side were sold as stunning losses by our media.

If we don't learn how to play the game as well as the left, we just as will cash it in. We'll lose.

Israel's got the same problem.

Leftists and terrorists go hand in hand. Sadly, the media is owned by the former and played like a fiddle by the later.

The Bush administration has done better of late. Bush's polling has gone up as he started to defend his war efforts vigorously in public. He must keep it up.

The Republicans need to get together as a party and formalize a strategic plan to get information out, and to sound unified as they do it.

The dems are in tune to the last dog catcher in Minnesota. Heck, sometimes you can't count on the leaders of our team being on tune for the national anthem. And this goes beyond the McCainiac problem.
39 posted on 09/29/2006 12:53:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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Lots of people don't like me. Add Arabs to the list. I won't lose much sleep.


40 posted on 09/29/2006 1:33:31 AM PDT by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: fogofbobegabay

I want America to be feared, not liked.


Thats stupid. That makes you no better than militant muslims - ruling by fear. That will alienate your friends and allies and justify the gripes of your enemies.

The US should aspire to be liked by all but its detractors, who should fear it.


41 posted on 09/29/2006 5:00:35 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: staytrue

My recollection is that the world has always been anti american...


The whole world isnt anti-american! Dont buy into all the images you see on the TV. Remember my friends, its always the ones who know the least who speak the most. The press concentrates on the extremists, the fanatics, the ones who say outrageous things because they are more spectacular than the quiet thoughtful man who says, if pushed, "well Ive never been to America, but it looks like an amazing place, and they are so rich, and vibrant and their culture is just so....overwhelming..." Watching live feed American Football, apparently, is extremely popular in the Gaza strip. Sure theres a certain antipathy towards you, mostly based on envy. You are the worlds most powerful nation then naturally there is going to be a certain resentment of that power and influence. Its not virulent anti-americanism though. Protesters in the streets of Berlin and Paris and London may yell "Bush out" or "No to war in Iraq", but they're also wearing jeans and nike trainers, and tee shirts with "Friends" or "Star Trek" logos.

I think this anti-americanism thing is grossly overstated. I know it exists, and it can seem very virulent, but it really isnt as bad as all that.


42 posted on 09/29/2006 5:09:41 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: NormsRevenge

Her views totally miss the mark. She should take the offensive and blast the liberals who travel the world in order to slam America. Clinton, Franken, Ditsy Chicks, are all missionaries to the hate American movement.


43 posted on 09/29/2006 6:13:45 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: NormsRevenge

"...the parents feel kind of assaulted by American culture."




If they feel assaulted, then DON'T BUY IT! As a conservative Christian, I feel assaulted by the majority of American popular culture, so it doesn't enter my house. Muslims can do the same.

This is the same fallacious argument, "We're bad, so they have a legitimate gripe against us." Utter garbage reasoning, unworthy of a smart woman like Karen Hughes. That argument is no different than an abused woman talking about what SHE does to provoke her husband to beat her up. Regardless of what she does, it's not an excuse for resorting to violence. Regardless of the trashiness of American popular culture, it's not an excuse for Muslims resorting to violence.

If this is the best Karen can do, she's playing into distorted Islamofascist reasoning and doing damage to the cause.


44 posted on 09/29/2006 6:54:15 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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