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To: jla
Giuliani said he believed Clinton, like his successor, did everything he could with the information he was provided.

"Every American president I've known would have given his life to prevent an attack like that. That includes President Clinton, President Bush," the former mayor said outside a firehouse here. "They did the best they could with the information they had at the time." --September 27, 2006

Giuliani's remarks absolve Clinton from what your posts quite obviously indict him for. Is Giuliani right or is he wrong? And do you still think Giuliani the best candidate for POTUS?--jla

Giuliani's comment is, of course, absurd on its face. A man (and I use that term loosely) who wouldn't give up his office for his country certainly wouldn't give up his life for his country.

I was disappointed when I heard Giuliani say that. Politics makes fools of otherwise smart men. (Giuliani was pandering to the Ds, which is almost understandable: He needs D votes to make up for the Rs like you who won't vote for him. ;) )

I suspect you were similarly disappointed in Allen of late (irrespective of whether or not you believe all that stuff about the racial and ethnic slurs).

(ASIDE: It is interesting how racial and ethnic slurs made by the clintons never seem to hurt them. To the contrary, especially with blacks and my brethern, the Jews, where the clinton vote count often varies directly with the quantity, intensity and/or frequency of the clinton slurs.)

As for the best candidate, if I could have my way I would purge DC of all professional pols and replace them with superb citizen-politicians.

But right now we have to work with what we have. I still think Giuliani is the one who can best prosecute the WOT and the one who can win a national election, (Obviously, neither of these two criteria alone is sufficient. The GOP candidate must be able to do both.)

85 posted on 09/30/2006 9:17:54 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Giulliani's exoneration of Clinton is another example of the delusions of elitism. Is is so transparently of the same ilk as the no Iraq - Terrorism link, including that Atta could not have met with Iraq intellegence in Prague, although multiple points of evidence show he did, and Saddam wasnt seeking yellow cake in Niger, although multiple evidence points show he did. The pompous 9/11 commission and their distorted, superficial whitewash report are a further example.

Average Americans can sense the truth. Iraq in their minds is obviously tied to terrorism. They were directly tied to the 1993 WTC attack and that attack and the 9/11 attack are not unrelated.

Our "leaders" of the American right need to wake up and begin dealing with the fact that in America today, sedition is running amok. The Democrats, the media, and the pointed headed intellectuals, would rather see us attacked again by terrorists than see George Bush or the Republican party hold political power for another two years.

The seditionists should not be coddled any longer. Its not a matter of free speech when you advocate political change that encourages further kamakazi style tactics against American forces or against Iraqi civilians. The old adage used to silence Republicans when they were in the minority for years, that politics is supposed to stop at the waters edge, needs to be shoved down the throats of some democrat critics of US war policy.

George Tenent should not have been given praise when he was finally fired. He should have been told, second only to Al Queda he was personally responsible for 9/11. A competent Director would have fought the Gorelick wall and confronted Clinton for his avoidance of terror issues.

Its clear that the minute any republican takes a tough line against the democrats, the media will apply their double standard and attack republican "devisiveness". Nonetheless, someone needs to start calling them traitors and backstabbers and blaiming them for US war dead, as they are indeed responsible for encouraging our enemies to think if they kill enough Americans our will might be broken, and Howard Dean will deliver them to Victory.

Churchill knew, even at the most hopeless, desperate and most gloomy moments, what a nation needs is not equivocation, but conviction that Victory is certain, and that there is no room for doubters, second guessers or fellow travelers.

I can appreciate that a President needs to be judicious in the fights that he picks and the timing that he choses to pick them. Mr. Giulliani's unfortunate remarks, show something less than the resolve necessary to bring about the kind of renewal of focus that America needs at all levels to obtain the Victory, which Kissinger purportedly has correctly explained, is the ONLY exit strategy worth pursuing.


89 posted on 10/01/2006 1:47:20 AM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: Mia T
...if I could have my way I would purge DC of all professional pols and replace them with superb citizen-politicians.

Anyone in your lifetime, or not in your lifetime, who meets this criterion?

96 posted on 10/01/2006 5:45:50 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T; SJackson; Sabramerican
From post #85 -

(ASIDE: It is interesting how racial and ethnic slurs made by the clintons never seem to hurt them. To the contrary, especially with blacks and my brethern, the Jews, where the clinton vote count often varies directly with the quantity, intensity and/or frequency of the clinton slurs.)

Be careful with that "brethern" talk, Mia T. You'll be accused of being an anti-Semite.

100 posted on 10/02/2006 7:49:09 AM PDT by jla
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