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LA Times Poll: Feinstein, Brown Lead as Ballot Measures Falter (McClintock/Garmamendi neck and neck)
Los Angeles Times ^ | September 29, 2006 | Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 09/29/2006 10:43:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl

A $37-billion package of proposed public works bonds that has strong bipartisan support in Sacramento is in some peril among voters, along with ballot measures dealing with alternative energy and a cigarette tax, according to a new Los Angeles Times poll.

The vast majority of likely voters knew too little about the infrastructure bonds — backed by both Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic legislators — to express an opinion. After poll respondents were read a ballot summary of each measure, none of the items generated much enthusiasm. Only two eked out a bare majority: those on housing and disaster preparedness.

The measures on smoking and alternative energy were much better known, thanks to extensive advertising campaigns, but neither drew majority support.

Two of California's most durable Democrats, meanwhile, were in strong position as the November election nears. U.S. Sen Dianne Feinstein holds a hefty lead in her run for reelection, and Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown enjoys a sizable edge as he bids to become state attorney general, the poll found.

The positive news for Feinstein and Brown contrasted with a series of much closer contests in the so-called down-ballot races for statewide office. If a Democratic wave is building in the country, as polls suggest, it has yet to materialize in California.

The Nov. 7 ballot features, at the top of the ticket, the race between Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democrat Phil Angelides, the state treasurer. Also included are the Senate and down-ballot races, legislative and congressional contests and 13 initiatives...

In the campaign for U.S. Senate, Feinstein was leading Richard Mountjoy, a former Monrovia state senator, 54% to 36% among likely voters and 54% to 29% among registered voters. That compares to a 59%-to-30% advantage for Feinstein among registered voters surveyed in the last poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calelection; california; calinitiatives; calpoll; claudeparrish; election2006; electionussenate; feinstein; latimes; latimespoll; mcclintock; mcpherson; mountjoy; poochigian; prop1abcde; tonystrickland
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1 posted on 09/29/2006 10:43:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Derived from the article:
U.S. Senate           Feinstein (D)   v.  Mountjoy (R)       54% to 36%
Attorney General      Brown (D)       v.  Poochigian (R)     51% to 34%
Lieutenant governor   Garamendi (D)   v.  McClintock (R)     41% to 42%
Secretary of State    Bowen (D)       v.  McPherson (R)      35% to 33%
Treasurer             Lockyer (D)     v.  Parrish (R)        50% to 26%
Ins Commissioner      Bustamante (D)  v.  Poizner (R)        43% to 38%
State controller      Chiang (D)      v.  Strickland (R)     36% to 30%

Proposition 1B, Bonds - $19.9-billion for state's highways and port system   -  behind 39% to 41%
Proposition 1D, Bonds - $10.4-billion for school improvements                - leading 43% to 39%
Proposition 1C, Bonds - $2.9 billion for parks, housing, homeless shelters   - leading 51% to 34%
Proposition 1E, Bonds - $4.1 billion for flood control                       - leading 50% to 29%
Proposition 86, Cigarette Tax - Raised by $2.60 a pack                       - leading 47% to 42%
Proposition 87, Oil Tax - tax on crude oil to fund alternative energies      - leading 45% to 38%

2 posted on 09/29/2006 10:45:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: whinecountry; Walkenfree; Rusty0604; Ladycalif; FairOpinion; doodlelady; antceecee; atomic_dog; ...
PING!

Tom McClintock for Lieutenant Governor of California

McClintock Ping List.
Please freepmail me if you want on or off this list

3 posted on 09/29/2006 10:46:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

More proof that my state is over run with morons.


4 posted on 09/29/2006 10:48:30 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; CounterCounterCulture
In the campaign for U.S. Senate, Feinstein was leading Richard Mountjoy, a former Monrovia state senator, 54% to 36% among likely voters ...

Mountjoy is gaining! Will Arnie and the CA GOP endorse him now?

5 posted on 09/29/2006 10:52:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: MistrX
More proof that my state is over run with morons.

LOL, as if more proof was needed.

6 posted on 09/29/2006 10:55:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MistrX

A lot of those morons happen to be leaders in the Republican party in the state. How they could have let a crop of mostly unknowns run just doesn't make sense. There's some quality people, yes, but you really have to be a fanatic to know most of them.

It is like they're trying desperately to give away this state.


7 posted on 09/29/2006 10:56:41 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: kingu
Who else did you have in mind? These are the people who stepped up to the plate and won their primaries.
8 posted on 09/29/2006 11:00:58 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor; Strickland for Controller; Poochigian for AG; Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: calcowgirl

I LOVE cowgirls!

Especially smart ones : )

B U M P


9 posted on 09/29/2006 11:02:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: calcowgirl

I'm surprised he is not up by ten.


10 posted on 09/29/2006 11:02:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

*Blush*


11 posted on 09/29/2006 11:06:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Blush if you want, you are one of the most intelligent posters at FR. Keep pinging me!


12 posted on 09/29/2006 11:12:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Keep pinging me!

You got it. I'll put ya on my shortlist. :-)

13 posted on 09/29/2006 11:13:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; Liz

I love LIZ too! Get to know her. She is brilliant(plug for liz)


14 posted on 09/29/2006 11:14:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: calcowgirl
Just donated to McClintock's campaign. Hope others will too.
15 posted on 09/29/2006 11:14:27 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

An investment for McClintock in 2006 will also be an investment for McClintock in 2010. A two-fer. :-)


16 posted on 09/29/2006 11:17:18 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor; Strickland for Controller; Poochigian for AG; Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: calcowgirl
"In the campaign for U.S. Senate, Feinstein was leading Richard Mountjoy, a former Monrovia state senator, 54% to 36% among likely voters and 54% to 29% among registered voters. That compares to a 59%-to-30% advantage for Feinstein among registered voters surveyed in the last poll."

Godspeed, Mr. Mountjoy.

17 posted on 09/29/2006 11:17:47 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: DB

Brown numbers are heading downward, but no movement foward for pooch.He needs some Bio ads to help him out. and with the Dems so depress because of the Gov race I can see some whacky stuff. I think Tom will drive high right wing turnout and pull him to victory and perhaps a surpise or two along the way.


18 posted on 09/29/2006 11:20:23 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: CounterCounterCulture

B U M P


19 posted on 09/29/2006 11:23:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: DB
Just donated to McClintock's campaign.

Ditto.

20 posted on 09/29/2006 11:29:55 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: calcowgirl
Mountjoy gaining? You're insane.

Better to push McClintock over the top than squander a second on Mountjoy or Poochigian.

21 posted on 09/30/2006 12:12:04 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: newzjunkey
Better to push McClintock over the top than squander a second on Mountjoy

Better to push McClintock over the top than squander a second on Arnold

22 posted on 09/30/2006 12:15:17 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: calcowgirl
The bonds are another disaster altogether. 1B, transportation, where improvement is critically needed is the only one not leading.

Instead we've got the ******* school and homeless bonds ahead along with taxes hikes.

It's almost enough to make me *want* Mexico to finish its invasion of CA.

23 posted on 09/30/2006 12:17:14 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: Mojave

Uh... Arnold's ahead in the polls by over 10 pts. I don't see your point.


24 posted on 09/30/2006 12:19:11 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: newzjunkey
Uh... Arnold's ahead in the polls by over 10 pts. I don't see your point.

Uh... Arnold's ahead in the polls by over 10 pts. I don't see your point.

25 posted on 09/30/2006 12:20:19 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: kingu

You have a good point but there really aren't many "known" Republicans in CA and those that are usually aren't crazy enough to run.


26 posted on 09/30/2006 12:24:20 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: Paul8148


I've done my part!
27 posted on 09/30/2006 12:24:35 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: newzjunkey
Mountjoy gaining? You're insane.
Better to push McClintock over the top than squander a second on Mountjoy or Poochigian.

If a party is not going to support and work toward electing like-minded candidates, supporting a candidate in each race, what good is having a party? You would just have individual campaigns.

With virtually zero money, no support or endorsement from the Governor, no support or endorsement from the CA GOP, and running against a popular encumbent, Mountjoy has 36% of the vote and his popular opponent has only a little over half of the vote of those polled. 36% is more support than the encumbent McPherson (R) has, who the GOP has given support to. There is an election going on for multiple officials--the fact that the GOP won't participate in the US Senate race is shameful.

28 posted on 09/30/2006 12:25:58 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: newzjunkey
1B, transportation, where improvement is critically needed is the only one not leading.

Good! This initiative is filled with pork and will do virtually nothing for highways. If you want new buses to combat global warming, new port fences, a new-improved border crossing into Mexico, and a lot more inner-city rail, vote for it. If not, give it a big fat NO!

29 posted on 09/30/2006 12:28:13 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
But Arnold is up by 10 points and doesn't need our support, so we should be giving our support to Arnold.

Doncha get it?

30 posted on 09/30/2006 12:29:40 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Nope... I don't get it. With all of the money they are spending, there is no good reason that the downticket candidates aren't getting more support. And the CA GOP not even giving the Republican candidate for US Senate an endorsement is inexcusable.


31 posted on 09/30/2006 12:31:55 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: cartoonistx

LOL ~ Wonderful!


32 posted on 09/30/2006 12:35:42 AM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: calcowgirl
"Democratic wave?" LMAO! The Drive By Media IS full of it! Angelides has gone over to the moonbats. He's not being lifted by any tidal wave out there, let alone the borrow and spend propositions on the ballot. California is the strongest Blue State in the country. Angelides and every liberal proposition should be ahead by double digits. They aren't. Can we say there's trouble in paradise?? ;-)

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

33 posted on 09/30/2006 12:35:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
"Democratic wave?" LMAO!

LOL. I had to chuckle at that one too. Even the LA Times acknowledges there ain't no such thing in California. Angelides keeps digging himself deeper with his Bush comparisons. Dig baby, dig!

34 posted on 09/30/2006 12:38:18 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Amazing, isn't it. Dick Mountjoy has been a loyal Republican for years; attending their conventions, helping to grow party organizations and assisting other candidates for office.

Now the CA GOP is too busy with their Austrian boyfriend to give Dick the time of day.

35 posted on 09/30/2006 12:38:30 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: calcowgirl
Only two of the borrow and spend propositions are at 50%. I don't think any one is enthusiastic about them. Props 86 and 87 targeting two populist villains - cigs and Big Oil are faring poorly.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

36 posted on 09/30/2006 12:38:47 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mojave
Amazing ...

That is an overly nice description.

37 posted on 09/30/2006 12:40:41 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
THE LA TIMES LIES!
 
Here's the LA Times quote from above: "Lowell Norling, a lifelong Republican from Oakland, said he was voting for Feinstein because the GOP "is taking the country the wrong way right now."


Here's Lowell 2 years ago starting an on-line meetup group:
http://againstbush.meetup.com/cities/us/il/rockford/1465414/?ic=sn42
"Start a new Against Bush Meetup Group! Lowell Nordling is just 1 of 18 on our list of people near Rockford interested in Against Bush Meetups."

38 posted on 09/30/2006 12:41:56 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: goldstategop

The Times pointed out that most people polled really didn't know much about what was on the ballot. It's still early yet as I think pamphlets were just delivered this week. Hopefully people will be burned out on all the big spending and taxing liberal propositions and just say NO.


39 posted on 09/30/2006 12:42:39 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Southack

Great Job!

LOL. I suspected as much reading some of those quotes but didn't take the time to google them.

You should send that to NewsBusters.


40 posted on 09/30/2006 12:44:50 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
I think the general tendency is to vote against everything on the ballot. That may well doom 85 and 90. But we can live with it if it happens. California will have been saved from a bipartisan fiscal nightmare.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

41 posted on 09/30/2006 12:45:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
"The Nov. 7 ballot features, at the top of the ticket, the race between Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democrat Phil Angelides, the state treasurer."

And yet, the LA Times doesn't print Arnold's lead over Phil. I mean, it's just an article on poll numbers! Must be an oversight...

42 posted on 09/30/2006 12:47:39 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

My guess is they will use it in a larger article over the weekend about the Governor's race.
It was nice to finally see someone report on all the downticket candidates.


43 posted on 09/30/2006 1:00:12 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Southack
I've noticed.... their bias is obvious to even casual readers. The Drive By Media today is little more than a transmission belt for the Democratic Party.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

44 posted on 09/30/2006 1:12:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


45 posted on 09/30/2006 3:06:24 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: calcowgirl

Great news on McClintock! My question is, though, what did they have Schwarzenegger leading by?


46 posted on 09/30/2006 3:55:04 AM PDT by Princip. Conservative
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To: Princip. Conservative; calcowgirl

You mean ol "lop-sided landslide Schwartzenbondagespender?" Who the heck cares???


47 posted on 09/30/2006 8:42:05 AM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: calcowgirl

" Feinstein was leading Richard Mountjoy, a former Monrovia state senator, 54% to 36% among likely voters ...
Mountjoy is gaining! Will Arnie and the CA GOP endorse him now?"


===


I didn't know you have a sense of humor.


48 posted on 09/30/2006 9:40:24 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: kingu

"It is like they're trying desperately to give away this state."


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That's what the conservatives ( or more clearly the so-called conservatives) in CA are all about. They were so proud, that "REAL conservatives" won in the downticket primaries, and all or nearly all of them will be defeated and we'll end up with Bustamante, Jerry Brown, and Lockyer.

Instead of voting for Republican candidates in the primary, who have a chance to beat the Dems in this very liberal state.

That's why they hate Arnold, he is not a loser.


49 posted on 09/30/2006 9:45:23 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: calcowgirl

Is Jerry Brown ever going to "retire"?
BTW...he has the strangest "portrait" hanging in the State Capital building. Looks like it was painted by someone going thru a bad Picasso "cubist" day.


50 posted on 09/30/2006 9:49:16 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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