Posted on 09/30/2006 10:51:39 AM PDT by FairOpinion
The governor takes a commanding lead, with many Democrats and independents saying they support him. A key issue is leadership skill.
Just over five weeks before election day, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger holds a commanding lead over his Democratic challenger, state Treasurer Phil Angelides, who has built scant support beyond a core base of liberals, according to a new Los Angeles Times Poll.
If the Nov. 7 election were held today, likely voters would favor the Republican governor over Angelides 50% to 33%.
The survey found an abundance of grim signs for Angelides, including a failure to match Schwarzenegger's success in rallying voters of his own party strongly behind his candidacy. Just 61% of Democrats support Angelides, while 88% of Republicans favor Schwarzenegger. And independents, a crucial swing vote, support Schwarzenegger over Angelides 49% to 31%.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Go Arnold!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
The results of some of the rest of the LAT poll, about bonds and down ticket races posted here:
LA Times Poll: Feinstein, Brown Lead as Ballot Measures Falter (McClintock/Garmamendi neck and neck)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1711053/posts
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If you look at those races, some of them are within striking distance for Republicans, people need to turn out and get out the vote.
Lieutenant governor Garamendi (D) v. McClintock (R) 41% to 42%
Secretary of State Bowen (D) v. McPherson (R) 35% to 33%
Ins Commissioner Bustamante (D) v. Poizner (R) 43% to 38%
State controller Chiang (D) v. Strickland (R) 36% to 30%
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
This is gonna be hilarious. A year ago, he was dead meat, and now the only question is: Is he going to win by a comfortable 8-10pts, or is it going to be a 20pt landslide?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
The laws that count are the ones he's approved and they are liberal or worse. From bloated budgets, to UHC, to homosexual rights, to land grabs, to significant increases in taxation to staggering increases in debt
Universal Health Care, promoting the homosexual agenda in public schools to name a few.
It might help to follow currents before offering an opinion. Schwarzenegger has approved both universal health care plans and the homosexual agenda this past year. UHC this past week.
They would get elected if you TRIED instead of engaging in self-fulfilling prophecies.
Great news, indeed.
It can only help the downticket Republican candidates.
"Arnold doesn't need conservatives to win. "
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But Angelides will be very happy if conservatives stay home or vote third party and help Angelides.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I don't mind your Dem-promoting OPINIONS, but your constant spreading of outright LIES, making FALSE STATEMENTS that you KNOW are FALSE and try to pass them off as FACTS, is getting to be tiresome.
Arnold VETOED the universal healthcare socialized medicine bill and also VETOED several bills that the Legislature approved to promote the homosexual agenda even in schools, yet you claim the opposite, stating your lies as facts.
I don't know where you are getting your information.
He vetoed the UHC bill. He vetoed the bill advocating the homosexual agenda in textbooks. Yesterday, he vetoed the bill by Cedillo that would have granted driver's licenses to illegals.
What, exactly, are you talking about?
So would Garamendi, who's trying his darnedest to drive a wedge between Tom McClintock and Arnold.
What we have on this board is some pretend-conservatives trying to convince real conservaties that there is no difference between Arnold and Angelides, to help out Angelides.
This article below describes them to a T.
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But there seems to be a new “Republicans vote on Wednesday” taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.
The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: “I’ve been voting Republican for 30 years, but I’ve finally had it and I’m not voting this year.” Or my favorite: “I’m a Reagan Republican, but I’m fed up and voting for John Kerry.” (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone right of Michael Dukakis.
The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the caller’s talking points.
But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.
The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613957/posts?page=87#87
If Angelides can help conservative Republicans get the Austrian pretender out of the CaGOP, he's got my thanks. Angelides should hire Schwarzenegger as his campaign spokesman.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"If Angelides can help conservative Republicans get the Austrian pretender out of the CaGOP, he's got my thanks."
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You demonstrated yet again, that you are NO conservative, NO Republican, not even a moderate, but a mouthpiece FOR socialist, leftist Angelides.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Go ahead, keep campaigning for socialist Angelides.
Aren't you ashamed to unrelentingly campaign for socialist Angelides in a conservative forum?
They helped push Arnold to the center over the past year by failing to turnout and support the Special Election measures. There was a record low turnout in areas like Orange County.
Arnold will win re-election. The question is whether there will be sufficient GOP turnout to carry McClintock, and other down ticket GOP candidates to victory. If McClintock loses, I suspect it will be narrowly, and only because the "ideologically pure" crowd sucked it collective thumb and stayed home.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Some of whom actually brag about not having bothered to vote.
Angelides is grasping at straws and has "con nservatives staying home or voting third party" as part of his win strategy and some of his stooges here are trying to implement that strategy.
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A Recipe for Success (for Angelides) (Conservatives are Angelides' secret weapon)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689690/posts
Here are some things he could do:
o Attack Arnold from the right :
§ Illegal immigration–Arnold has angered the conservative base with some of his comments on this issue. The Angelides campaign, or perhaps an anti-Arnold independent expenditure campaign, could attack Arnold in the mail or on the radio and use Arnold’s own words against him.
§ Taxes/government spending–The state government continues to run what is essentially a deficit and Arnold’s numerous proposals to increase government spending and borrowing turn off Republicans. This line of attack could also mitigate some of the tax attacks against Angelides.
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Schwarzenegger Hears Rumbles From the Right
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685932/posts
" low conservative turnout will loom as a key peril for the governor and a prime source of hope for Democrats."
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"Angelides ... must win 80% of the Dems and a solid majority of the DTS (declined to state) registrants, TO ACCOMPANY THE 15% REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE FOR THEIR PARTY'S TICKET"
ANGELIDES IS COUNTING ON THEM.
http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/07/new_poll_result.html
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Angelides team bullish on California's blue state math (counting on CONSERVATIVES, to win)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676818/posts
Angelides' camp believes that while the governor enjoys support among some Democrats now, by the time ballots are cast in November, the base will remain loyal.
They also believe that the opposite will occur with the Republicans because Schwarzenegger's recent move to the left on key issues such as immigration and the environment has alienated conservatives.
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To pull off a win, Angelides must seize his opportunities
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683377/posts
"But it will not be easy, and Angelides must take full advantage of the opportunities: ... the governor's sometimes tense relationship with conservatives; "
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That is so pathetic. Voters in Afghanistan and Iraq braved great danger to get to the polls for a chance to vote. Their turnout at the polls puts us to shame.
Let me repeat this S-L-O-W-L-Y:
Any conservative who doesn't get out and ACTIVELY VOTE FOR ARNOLD, IS VOTING FOR ANGELIDES.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
No, you don't get it. You probably don't get out much, either. Arnold is as conservative as you are going to get in California until the news media swings back to a more level-handed status.
McClintock, good man that he is, will be lucky to edge a victory on a down-ballot race. He would have been clobbered running for Gov this year.
No one says it is fair or right, just how the state works.
But he increased funding for Medi-Cal and Healthy Families.
Shhh! It's still universal healthcare, just that it's in parts instead of the whole sum.
Do you not live in California any longer, or are you just that clueless?
I'm out here in Alabama and I know that Arnold vetoed UHC and gay rights bills this year.
You apparently do not know it. Sad. You're one of the uneducated who votes anyway...
Shameful is right.
Part of the DICC strategy is to shame, blame, intimidate ~ whatever it takes to devalue the voting process.
Democrats In Conservative Clothing
The LAT poll about down-ticket candidates shows that:
8% of Republicans plan to vote for Garamendi, not McClintock;
20% Republicans plan to vote for Jerry Brown, not Poochigian;
11% plan to vote for Bustamante, not Poizner.
I bet those are the same ones who are agitating against Arnold and won't tell us they plan to vote for Angelides.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-me-poll30sep30,1,7972710,full.story?coll=la-center-politics-cal
All Arnold's doing is setting up a huge Dim victory in 2010.
The CAGOP will stab McClintock in the back, and there won't be any other Republican that has Arnold's star power and money. The Republican candidate will have no choice but to run as a out-and-out liberal because Arnold has already moved the ideological goal posts to the left of center. Villargrosia will easily cruise to victory and the Reconquista will begin and hopefully FR will move its headquarters to Texas.
Because of McClintock, not because in spite of him.
Much better to give the Dems victory right now by electing Angelides, right?
Please explain why removing a liberal from the Republican Party would be the goal of a socialist. Those who believe in socialism generally attempt to first toilet train the practitioners of opposing political philosophies with a liberal. Schwarzenegger makes a fine set of potty steps for conservatives.
Please explain why opposing the election of an individual with dual citizenship, to a high public office in the US, is contrary to either Republican or conservative principles and further indicates a preference for socialism. I was under the impression that a border less, one world concept, was a socialist goal.
Please explain how exposing candidate A as a charlatan constitutes an assertive support for candidate B, or any of the other candidates running for the same office. By that confused logic the American Revolutionary War was fought to impose French rule on British colonies.
From Gov Arnold to the people of California: "I WILL WIN AGAIN, SO JUST SIT BACK, RELAX, I'M GOING TO PUMP YOU UP!"
Now you can finally quit insulting your fellow FReepers by suggesting that they will be supporting the out-right Commonist if they don't cast their vote for the closet Commonist!!!
DICCs - LOL!
For who?
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