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Schwarzenegger vetoes California Dream Act
CA Governor's web site ^ | September 30, 2006 | Arnold Schwarzenegger

Posted on 09/30/2006 6:33:12 PM PDT by ruination

To the Members of the California State Senate:

I am returning Senate Bill 160 without my signature.

I applaud all young people who work hard, graduate high school and attend college.

Current law allows undocumented students who have attended a California high school for three years and graduate from a California high school to attend a state college and get a reduced “in state tuition rate” but not be eligible for public financial aid dollars. California has over 100,000 students here legally who apply annually for financial aid to attend college, and our state has limited funds available for this important purpose.

While I do not believe that undocumented children should be penalized for the acts of their parents, this bill would penalize students here legally by reducing the financial aid they rely on to allow them to go to college and pursue their dreams.

For this reason, I am unable to sign this bill.

Sincerely,

Arnold Schwarzenegger


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2006election; aliens; california; callegislation; cedillo; election2006; elections; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; sb1534; sb160; schwarzenegger
Illegal aliens can still get in-state tuition, however.

Here is background on the bill.

1 posted on 09/30/2006 6:33:13 PM PDT by ruination
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To: ruination

All the leaves are brown, and the sky is gray...


2 posted on 09/30/2006 6:36:02 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: ruination
and our state has limited funds available for this important purpose.

Well....just tax rich people more.... :)
3 posted on 09/30/2006 6:40:06 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: ruination

"Current law allows undocumented students who have attended a California high school for three years and graduate from a California high school to attend a state college and get a reduced “in state tuition rate...”

Citizenship should be required for ANY public service paid for by taxpayers. Not satisfied with stealing an basic education for their kids (mostlhy in Spanish at that), illegals now want to steal a college education. Lovely.

Glad Ahhhnold terminated it.


4 posted on 09/30/2006 6:42:35 PM PDT by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT NYT, LAT, AP, Reuters, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, WaPo, Haaretz, and ALL leftist rags!!!)
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To: ruination

Excellent!

This was the "financial aid to illegal immigrants" bill passed by the CA socialist Leftist Legislature and Arnold VETOED it!!!


I bet Angelides would sign it.


5 posted on 09/30/2006 6:43:09 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
I bet Angelides would sign it.
Not only would he sign it...he'd require the bill to be in Spanish.
6 posted on 09/30/2006 6:51:55 PM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: peyton randolph

Good one!


7 posted on 09/30/2006 6:54:23 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: ruination
While I do not believe that undocumented children should be penalized for the acts of their parents, this bill would penalize students here legally by reducing the financial aid they rely on to allow them to go to college and pursue their dreams.

Way to go, Arnold! (BTW, they are illegal aliens.)
8 posted on 09/30/2006 7:01:41 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: ruination; bordergal

Good news!


9 posted on 09/30/2006 7:22:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ruination

Let me guess: Angie will claim that he'll use the National Guard to make Arnold change his mind...


10 posted on 09/30/2006 7:39:08 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: ruination; bordergal; Amerigomag
I just looked.... unfortunately he signed SB 1534, which will allow local governments to give a variety of benefits to illegal aliens.

From the Legislative Counsel Analysis of SB 1534, Public benefits. (Senators Ortiz and Alarcon)

Federal law, Section 411 of the federal Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA), provides that certain persons are not eligible for defined state and local public benefits unless a state law is enacted subsequent to the effective date of the act, August 22, 1996, that affirmatively provides for that eligibility.

(snip)

This bill would declare the intent of the Legislature to affirm the ability of counties, cities, and hospital districts, at their own discretion, to provide health care and other services to all residents. The bill would authorize any city, county, city and county, or hospital district to provide aid, including health care, to persons who, but for the above-referred to provision of the federal PRWORA, would meet the eligibility requirements for any program of that entity.

(snip)

From the Senate Floor Analysis

PRWORA prohibits states and counties from providing free or discounted nonemergency health care to the undocumented, but authorizes states to provide additional public benefits to this population as follows:

A State may provide that an alien who is not lawfully present in the U.S. is eligible for any State or local public benefit for which such alien would otherwise be ineligible under subsection (a) [which excludes them] of this section only through the enactment of a State law after August 22, 1996 which affirmatively provides for such eligibility.

According to the author, this bill provides the reaffirmation allowed under federal law.

(snip)


11 posted on 09/30/2006 7:44:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: frankjr
All the leaves are brown, and the sky is gray...

Clever...

12 posted on 09/30/2006 7:44:30 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: peyton randolph
Not only would he sign it...he'd require the bill to be in Spanish.

And he'd modify the bill so that ONLY illegals got in-state tuition...

13 posted on 09/30/2006 7:46:05 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: calcowgirl

Arnold giveth, and then Arnold taketh away.


14 posted on 09/30/2006 8:52:52 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: calcowgirl

Ugh. Thanks for pointing that out. It's a full-time job keeping up on what laws the legislature here is trying to force down our throats, isn't it.


15 posted on 09/30/2006 9:22:06 PM PDT by ruination
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To: ruination

It would be more than a full time job. I just took note of a few that I noticed during the year and decided to check up on their resolution.

100% of the Sierra Club's top priority bills that made it to the Governor's desk were signed.

46% of the Chamber of Commerce "job killer" bills that hit his desk were signed.

The GLBT community also fared very well, despite losing on some highly publicized bills. 7 of 9 of the Equality Californias (EQCA) "sponsored" bills were signed.

The lefties are still winning.


16 posted on 09/30/2006 9:43:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ruination
American citizens from another state are ineligible for reduced tuition.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

17 posted on 09/30/2006 10:11:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ruination

~ Wonderful ~


18 posted on 09/30/2006 11:52:41 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: ruination

Ah-nuhld's done good on this one.


19 posted on 10/01/2006 1:32:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hugo Chavez is the Devil! The podium still smells of sulfur...)
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To: calcowgirl

Well, you have a choice. With Shwarzenegger, the lefties win most of the time. With Angelides, the lefties will probably win even more of the time. What say you?


20 posted on 10/01/2006 1:33:43 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hugo Chavez is the Devil! The podium still smells of sulfur...)
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To: calcowgirl

A veto of SB 1534 would've been nice but at least it preserves local municipalities to act "at their own discretion" which is a good thing: LOCAL CONTROL.


21 posted on 10/01/2006 1:50:58 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: peyton randolph
(Angelides would) require the bill to be in Spanish.

Are you certain the governator was speaking English? What I heard was:

"I ham returnink Zenate Bill Vun-zixtee wit-hout my zignacher.

Hie haplod hall yung pee-pull hoo verk hart, gratch-hoo-hate high skule hand attent colletch.

Cur-rent law hal-lowz undocumentet sztudents hoo haf attentet ha Cali-Four-Nia high skool four three yearss and grach-you-ate from ha Cali-Four-nia high skool to atten a ztate colletch an get ha ree-deuced "Hin Zdate Too-ichen Rate" bot not bee helijable four public colletch, hand our zdate hass limitet funs ha-vale-ubool four thiss importunt pur-puss.

Vile hi do not be-leaf that hundoc-you-mentet chilltren shoult bee pee-null-iced four the axe huff tare pair-ants, thiss bill vould pee-null-ice stoo-dents here leak-cal-lee by reducink the finan-chul haid they rely on too hal-low them to koe to colletch hand purse-sue tare treams."

But hey, the guy's only been here for thirty-something years.

22 posted on 10/01/2006 3:48:07 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: ruination

More people better become aware of these illegal expenses. Just this weekend, at a local flea market, a Mexican woman walked by holding a baby and trailed by three little stairsteps. All were chattering in Spanish and when spoken to by the vendors in English just smiled and shrugged--they didn't speak English. I would bet that at least two or maybe all those four children were American citizens--just two parents came here illegally, but produced four Spanish speaking citizen offspring. They don't want to BE American, just be here to enjoy the goodies. Given 1 million ilegals times 4 in about 6 years= 4 million Spanish speaking CITIZENS who can't be shipped back to Mexico.
vaudine


23 posted on 10/01/2006 10:27:34 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: ruination; Liz

Mexico has a back-up quasi amnesty plan... Officials there are about to submit to the president-elect a proposal allowing individual U.S. states to negotiate immigration pacts with Mexican regions for the "temporary" visits of Mexicans in the USA (among other perks and favors that seemingly do little for us up here, or for the struggling pro-entrepreneurial reform movement in Mexico).

Free online translator:

http://www.google.com/translate_t

article's source:

http://www.el-universal.com.mx/notas/378507.html

Entregarán senadores a Calderón propuesta de reforma migratoria

La propuesta elaborada en la pasada Legislatura por el entonces diputado federal del PRI, Roberto Pedraza, contempla una reforma que permita a las entidades federativas de México signar acuerdos regionales con sus homólogos de EU para la contratación de migrantes
Notimex
El Universal
Ciudad de México
Domingo 1 de octubre de 2006
09:42 Senadores del PRI entregarán al presidente electo, Felipe Calderón Hinojosa, una propuesta de reforma migratoria mediante la cual podrían evitarse cientos de muertes de mexicanos y terminar con el tráfico de indocumentados.
La propuesta elaborada en la pasada Legislatura por el entonces diputado federal del Partido Revolucionario Institucional (PRI), Roberto Pedraza Martínez, contempla una reforma que permita a las entidades federativas de México signar acuerdos regionales con sus homólogos de Estados Unidos para la contratación de migrantes.
“Intentamos desde el Senado revivir esta iniciativa denominada Por Una Migración Ordenada entre México y Estados Unidos, mejor conocida como 10-2 y 5-1 la cual se encuentra guardada en el algún escritorio de la Secretaría de Relaciones Exteriores desde hace tres años”, lamentó su autor.
El ahora senador suplente dijo en entrevista que se prevé el consenso de más senadores de todos los partidos para entregar la propuesta al presidente electo e impulsar desde el principio de su administración una verdadera agenda nacional en el tema migratorio.
La propuesta establece que además de los acuerdos regionales o interestatales, se promovería la “certificación” de los emigrantes mexicanos, para evitar que se les acuse de delincuentes y con ello también acabar con las bandas de “polleros”.
“El sexenio del presidente Fox fue el de las cuentas alegres en materia migratoria y al final terminas con la construcción de un nuevo muro, vigilado por militares”, expuso Pedraza Martínez.
Deploró que la iniciativa elaborada por diputados federales y consensuada por toda la Cámara de Diputados en la LIX Legislatura haya sido desechada primero por el titular del Ejecutivo y después por el canciller Luis Ernesto Derbez.
Recordó que la propuesta del Congreso mexicano establecía la “certificación de migrantes”, la posibilidad de realizar convenios migratorios entre estados de los dos países, un esquema de trabajo temporal y el pago de fianzas que garanticen que los trabajadores mexicanos regresen al país.
“Se dilapidaron seis años de la actual administración en reuniones de presidentes de ambos países en sus ranchos, de diálogos de amigos, de impulsar el endurecimiento de las medidas migratorias, pero no en una verdadera reforma en el tema que frene las más de 500 muertes de mexicanos en la frontera común”, agregó.


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24 posted on 10/01/2006 11:04:26 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: ruination

Notice how the Mexican immigration reform proposals do absolutely nothing to erradicate any of the officially sanctioned racism embodied in Mexico's own immigration laws against us gringos? For more details on how much more strict Mexico's immigration laws are against us than ours are against them:

http://www.directory.com.mx/immigration


25 posted on 10/01/2006 1:10:25 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


26 posted on 10/01/2006 9:36:38 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: ruination; calcowgirl

broken clock...

RECALL NOW!


27 posted on 10/15/2007 7:09:42 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

?

This thread is a year old.
He did however veto this again this year, one of the few things he did right.

Notwithstanding, I’d like to see him out of Sacramento and Government—permanently.


28 posted on 10/15/2007 7:23:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

oops! LOL
I was reading another article and was going to post it but after doing a seach, this article came up...time for me to get offline. LOL


29 posted on 10/15/2007 7:52:42 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

LOL.

To get ya up to date:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1910786/posts?page=19#19


30 posted on 10/15/2007 8:26:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: peyton randolph

Still, Arnold is a liberal. he may have done the right thing this time but he will mae up for it by bending over for the next 5 liberal/communist bills that come accross his desk.


31 posted on 10/15/2007 8:37:12 PM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: calcowgirl

oops! LOL
I was reading another article and was going to post it but after doing a seach, this article came up...time for me to get offline. LOL


32 posted on 10/15/2007 8:49:06 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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