Posted on 09/30/2006 10:04:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
As Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's campaign appears to be getting more and more love from California voters, he's not getting nearly as much from some Republicans.
Just take the California Republican Assembly, a group that supports GOP conservatives.
It has recently launched a Web site - www.cravictoryteam.com - to help Republican activists get materials and data to communicate with GOP voters.
But one name - Schwarzenegger's - is missing from the site's list of "our candidates." And the same name is missing on the endorsed list of candidates on the CRA's own Web site.
Otherwise, every statewide Republican candidate is on both lists.
Mike Spence, president of the CRA, said they're not snubbing the governor. Schwarzenegger just doesn't need their help.
"He's already spending over $25 million on himself," Spence said. "Why spend our precious funds? We're worried about the down-ticket races who are not getting the help the party typically provides."
For example, the party's door hangers don't even include U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mountjoy, he said.
Patrick Dorinson, communications director for the Republican Party, said they can't put Mountjoy's name on something that also includes state candidates.
"If we put a federal candidate on it, we have to pay for it with federal money," Dorinson said. "It's tougher to come by. You'll notice there's no David Dreier on it or other congressional members."
Spence, in a column written for the blog, Flash Report, blamed the Schwarzenegger campaign for the new project.
"We have to be honest about this," Spence stated. "The Governor's campaign, while emphasizing no new taxes, is built around billions of bond debt and signing bills that appeal to tree huggers, cross-dressers" and people who feel they are entitled to state benefits.
"This isn't exactly a great way to recruit GOP volunteers. The State GOP fired their church outreach person and appears to have reassigned others involved. Their church outreach can only be described as pray only."
Amanda Fulkerson, regional press secretary for the Schwarzenegger campaign, said there's no rift in the party.
"Both polls released this week show strong support among Republicans for Governor Schwarzenegger," Fulkerson said. "If there is one candidate in this race that has a problem with his base, it's Phil Angelides whose support among Democrats is severely lagging."
REPUBLICAN MEETING: Former state Sen. Richard Mountjoy, R-Monrovia, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate, will speak at the 7:30 a.m. Friday meeting of the Southeast chapter of the Lincoln Clubs of Los Angeles County.
The event will be held at Geezer's Restaurant, 12120 Telegraph Road, Santa Fe Springs. Cost is $25 per person.
For reservations, write LACLC, 6055 E. Washington Blvd. Suite 228, Commerce, CA 90040, or call Peter Bylsma, (323) 215-4500, or e-mail bylsma@lagop.org.
Paging the Ca GOP Damage Control Team,, White Courtesy Phone..
So is this why Mountjoy is not worthy of endorsement or even a word of encouragement or support for his Senatorial campaign by the Gubinator?
or is it just a Federal campaign funding issue thingy as to why he gets even less support or exposure than previous Rino and gay GOP candidates for the same office ever received mailers, door hangers or whatever notwithstanding?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
U.S. Senate Feinstein (D) v. Mountjoy (R) 54% to 36%
Attorney General Brown (D) v. Poochigian (R) 51% to 34%
Lieutenant governor Garamendi (D) v. McClintock (R) 41% to 42%
Secretary of State Bowen (D) v. McPherson (R) 35% to 33%
Treasurer Lockyer (D) v. Parrish (R) 50% to 26%
Ins Commissioner Bustamante (D) v. Poizner (R) 43% to 38%
State controller Chiang (D) v. Strickland (R) 36% to 30%
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1711053/posts
If the Nov. 7 election were held today, likely voters would favor the Republican governor over Angelides 50% to 33%.
The survey found an abundance of grim signs for Angelides, including a failure to match Schwarzenegger's success in rallying voters of his own party strongly behind his candidacy. Just 61% of Democrats support Angelides, while 88% of Republicans favor Schwarzenegger. And independents, a crucial swing vote, support Schwarzenegger over Angelides 49% to 31%.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1711269/posts
What?!! There is a Republican opponent for Feinstein? I had no idea. Knock me over with a feather. I haven't heard a peep out of Mountjoy, haven't seen an ad, a flyer, nothing.
I'll have to check the Sec. of State's website now and see if there is a Republican opponent for Ellen Tauscher (D), Congresswoman from the 10th District, not that it would matter. If there is one, it's a secret.
The only people the rift benefits, is the Democrats.
Why do you think GARAMENDI is promoting "the rift" between Arnold and Tom McClintock?
Why do you think Angelides and the CA Dems are COUNTING on the conservatives staying home, to win?
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A Recipe for Success (for Angelides) (Conservatives are Angelides' secret weapon)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689690/posts
Here are some things he could do:
o Attack Arnold from the right :
§ Illegal immigration–Arnold has angered the conservative base with some of his comments on this issue. The Angelides campaign, or perhaps an anti-Arnold independent expenditure campaign, could attack Arnold in the mail or on the radio and use Arnold’s own words against him.
§ Taxes/government spending–The state government continues to run what is essentially a deficit and Arnold’s numerous proposals to increase government spending and borrowing turn off Republicans. This line of attack could also mitigate some of the tax attacks against Angelides.
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Schwarzenegger Hears Rumbles From the Right
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685932/posts
" low conservative turnout will loom as a key peril for the governor and a prime source of hope for Democrats."
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"Angelides ... must win 80% of the Dems and a solid majority of the DTS (declined to state) registrants, TO ACCOMPANY THE 15% REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE FOR THEIR PARTY'S TICKET"
ANGELIDES IS COUNTING ON THEM.
http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/07/new_poll_result.html
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Angelides team bullish on California's blue state math (counting on CONSERVATIVES, to win)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676818/posts
Angelides' camp believes that while the governor enjoys support among some Democrats now, by the time ballots are cast in November, the base will remain loyal.
They also believe that the opposite will occur with the Republicans because Schwarzenegger's recent move to the left on key issues such as immigration and the environment has alienated conservatives.
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To pull off a win, Angelides must seize his opportunities
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683377/posts
"But it will not be easy, and Angelides must take full advantage of the opportunities: ... the governor's sometimes tense relationship with conservatives; "
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Thanks for being an apologist for a moderate Gub, of course Mitt is one too so I guess you know how we feel out here in this mess.. only made worse as he rolls over again and again for the dems like a trained seal...
Spam away FO.. Got to keep your hack credentials up to date and earn your pay for the Progressive Way, after all we understand, it's just business for you..
The CRA is not opposing Arnold, and is in fact making walk lists and collateral available for GOTV efforts. This may not sound like much, but it's a heck of a lot more than I've seen from the CRP this time around, let alone the county CC.
Yes, I noticed how my posting the truth and facts really upsets you -- it interferes with your propaganda agenda, to try to get conservatives stay home so that Angelides and his Dem cohorts can get elected.
btw,, What you call attacks are justified if you could separate fantasy from reality and your pompoms from your clinched little fists,,
Is the Gub just a big weinie? where has his fight gone? It's sad to see such a "Pro" roll over like a puppy at the feet of the dems like a conquered foe. but I for one always doubted he was doing anything more than acting like their foe.
He has accomplished more for the dem agenda than they could have ever hoped for the last 3 years.
How many Republicans support the bonds package, FO?
How many dems support the bonds package?
Just curious, you're so full of knowledge and insight after all.
Did you read the post?
The CRA is providing walk lists so people can do their GOTV.
How is it that a conservative organization mobilizing their conservative members for GOTV becomes, in your words, "Angelides secret weapon"?
Fo, I have never told anyone to not do their civic duty and vote.
You like to portray anyone's effort here to get more than lip service paid to issues made out to be anti-aRnie..
He is his own worst enemy, quite frankly, and if you can't see that , surrounding himself with kennedys all around , gays ,, and greens, and espousing I am a republican,, lol.. That is one helluva job of acting.. and here you are applauding it every step of the way, .. well, what can I say. just keep spinning and twisting away.. it's what you do best.
and what do you do when you have an egotistical Gub who is so out there that he is literally doing the dems dirty work, do you bless it and in so doing assume responsibility and culpability for his being an idiot and in your same party?
you have a tougher stomach then I and many others. I salute it.
Unfortunately many don't want to learn from history, to listen to the voice of experience, and continue to cut off their nose to spite their face, until the CA GOP will become extinct also.
Already, NO Republican candidate has been elected to statewide office in CA, with the exception of Arnold and the so-called conservatives are working overtime to undermine his victory.
Downticket candidates don't motivate voters to go out and vote.
Arnold is the big draw and they are ignoring him conspicuously, instead of using him to get people out to vote.
They split funding for mailers all the time! I distinctly remember seeing Bill Jones on mailers along with State candidates during the last Senate election. What a crock!
The only reason you keep promoting Mountjoy is that he has less of a chance than that of a snowball in a very hot place.
How come you are not promoting the 3-4 Republican candidates who are within a few points of their Dem opponents? Afraid that if conservatives get out and vote for them, they might defeat the Dems?
Hey!
Don't be spamming my threads with that Dick Mugwump fellas banner. I'll report you to the Lost in Ca GOP space time continuum 'who the hell is this guy running on the ticket anyway just ignore him, he's toast anyway' Brigade.
They know how to get rid of stiffs. well, most of them anyway. ;-}
Yep... long time loyal California Republican politician. But no endorsement or support from the CA GOP. No endorsement or support from Arnold. He's working off what he can do on his own but it appears that some Republicans, many right here on FR, would rather smear the man than support him. A sad state of affairs, for sure.
The recent trojan horse additions to the Party are engaged--they just thought that CC stood for Country Club and are MIA in supporting conservative candidates.
you're like a broken record, more dedicated to tossing mud at those here trying to restore sanity to the CA
GOP and trying to make sure it doesn't become extinct for exactly the same reasons and methods you and others are trying to sell as the only way to stop a perceived slide in the relevance of a conservative based movement in california;; ie; become dems on any number of issues and fool voters into voting for you because you are just like them. pretty loathsome behaviour , imo.. you cheapen the party , not make it more worthy of folks wanting to get and be involved in it for the right reasons.. for you and many , its all about power and the ends justifies the means,, you seek the easy way out.. you are nothing more than panderers and pretenders, and not worthy of support.
NO, FO. The agenda is EVERYONE MUST VOTE. The downticket conservative candidates, including Mountjoy, need our support. The agenda is to energize EVERYONE to get to the polls to vote NO on the big-borrowing (Prop 1ABCDE, Prop 84) and taxing schemes (Prop 86, 87, 88, 89) offered on the ballot.
No one should stay home!
The primaries are for shaping the party, the general election is getting the party into power. Some folks prefer to use the general election to try and shape the party as well. Not a good idea with the Rats in charge of the legislature.
They already are,, 2 of them,
Nunez and Villaraigosa.. he hugs them all the time..
Oh, OK.
Thanks. I'll call everyone tomorow and tell them to blow off walking their precincts, since they don't have "all Arnold all the time collateral".
Have you worked a phone bank or walked a Republican precinct this cycle? Try it. The PV=4 Rep. voters are FED UP TO HERE with Arnold. Bringing up his name is a good way to get a door slammed in your face.
Ask me how I know this.
We are barely a little more than a month away from the elections, which will have a major impact on the future of the country and CA.
This is the time for UNITY against the REAL enemy: the socialist, leftist Dems who want to and will destroy the country and the state, if they get into power, or I should say obtain full, unconstrained power.
You and others, while loudly proclaiming to be conservatives, are continuing to try to sow rift between Republicans, attack Republicans, try to get them to fight amonst each other and even admit that you want to have Democrats elected. You can proclaim you are conservative, but your actions SHOW CONCLUSIVELY that you working to help the Democrats win.
Like I said, some here would rather smear him than support him.
Yes, I am sure people get very enthusiastic, when you tell them to get out and vote for Mountjoy, so Feinstein can beat him by 56% to 32% instead of by 56% to 30%.
Your efforts have never been hidden either , yaknow, but thanks for the mud, I have quite a nice sized pueblo constructed using it..
Unity is an elusive thing , especially when it is demanded without good cause. and not returned when needed most.
Politics is so messy these days, huh?
To bad so many sought to empower Rinos so readily and willingly bought into their lies and actually cheered their numerous betrayals along the way.
Enjoy the play , FO, you helped write it,, I hear the conclusion is a real shocker.
Based on the polls, McClintock, McPherson, Poizner, and Strickland have a fighting chance.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1711053/posts
Conservatives are for Freedom. Republicans are for Power.
Do you know the first thing about GOTV, or do you just kvetch on the internet?
"Unity is an elusive thing , especially when it is demanded without good cause"
If you don't consider defeating Angelides a good cause, to keep him from destroying CA with the help of the socialist CA Legislature, you are either "reality challenged" OR you are a Dem operative. Those are the only two choices, just as there is only the choice between Arnold or Angelides.
I am all for GOTV, I think turnout is the key and it will be what may put some of the Republican candidates over the top.
I just object to the kind of "selective" GOTV, where people aren't GOTV to vote for straight Republican ticket, only encouraged to vote selectively, and maybe mess up the chance of the one with the best shot, Arnold.
"The only people the rift benefits, is the Democrats."
True.
lets' try it again.
How many Republicans support the bond package?
How many dems support the bond package?
How many CA republicans actually feel like the party leaders actually cares one bit if they are elected?
You have ALWAYS consistently supported voting a straight Republican ticket,
just has Tom McClintock.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
You are just trying to deflect from the main point, that you want to see Dems elected.
FO is a spambot. They don't read posts.
Thanks for confirming how much you really care about much of anything except it's all about aRnie.. it always has been .. and remains the same.
The few things that will make the biggest difference in CA are who gets elected gov, Prop. 87 (oil tax) and Prop. 89
(campaing finance).
Other things make a difference, but are a distant secondary importance.
People need to keep their eye on the ball and focus on what's really important. It doesn't matter whether you wear a green or purple sweather, if you didn't prevent your house from being demolished, because you were too busy trying to decide between the green and purple sweathers.
what a bunch of phonies you and all those on the FOP account team are .
if folks follow the money and those who benefitted most from all the past borrowing and from all the future borrowing to come, it becomes clear who benefits most..
btw, what's a matter , you run out of spam? you don't seem to want to bump much less touch the Gubby's fundraiser in beverly hills thread, I wonder why?
just curious, are you there as you post? Say Hi to Maria and susan.
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