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Hugo Chavez's Opponent Plans Major Caracas Rally, Opposition Strength May be Growing (Translation)
El Universal ( Caracas ) ^ | October 2, 2006 | Pedro Pablo PeƱaloza ( translated by self )

Posted on 10/02/2006 4:14:13 PM PDT by StJacques

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Caracas throws its weight behind Manuel Rosales
By Aleksander Boyd

Caracas 07.10.06 | Just got back from the rally folks and believe you me it was huge. But before anything else let me start by saying that I was in a priviledged position and as such what follows is an example of what the official TV channel, Venezolana de Television (VTV), ought to be doing instead of spreading lies and propaganda. It is hard to imagine who are they trying to dupe having seen, filmed and recorded -helicopter and all- the whole thing, but in any case I will happily engage in what I do best, which is to debunk the bullshit coming from the Chavez regime and set the record straight.





I was in a makeshift platform some 8 meters above the stage from where Rosales was going to address the crowd. To my right there was the camera of Globovision. To my left the one that was sending images to VTV. Pay special attention to the size of the crowd behind me and the angle of the camera on my left. This picture was taken well before Rosales started talking.









The reporter from VTV was on stage too -note how close he was to Rosales- could it be possible that he was seeing something different? When was the last time the caudillo allowed a reporter critical of his regime to get so close? Instead of doing what journalists are meant to do this chap, together with the cameraman, were filming Rosales from above -same angle as mine- focusing on notes that he had and criticising him for drinking gatorade. Needless to say that they refused to report accurately what was truly going on:







Last I saw a march this size the mood was somewhat sad. Not today though for Caraqueños came out in full force with a party-like attitude so I guess at this hour a group of people must be getting a bitching from one deranged fellow that believes that he is the only one capable of 'governing' this country. The regime had a rally planned for tomorrow in Avenida Bolivar, which is not far from where we were. The idea was to measure forces and crowds, however for some reason -could it be the size of Rosales' rally?- they have just decided to cancel the gig and postpone it for next Sunday. I guess the regime just can't materialise thousands of people on the streets of Caracas any longer...

Update @ 8:10pm: I have just been informed that Hugo has decided to have his march tomorrow. People are already concentrating in Puente Llaguno.

http://vcrisis.com/index.php?content=letters/200610071705


61 posted on 10/07/2006 8:11:28 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigshit be upon him))
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62 posted on 10/07/2006 8:16:39 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigshit be upon him))
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La Avalancha: Rosales takes Caracas
FINAL UPDATE: So it was a big success. The last images from VTV were of Rosales during his speech (they are obliged as Globovision passes Chavez campaign speeches) but on the half images from "the march" which were in fact images from distant spots from where some of the marches started, NOT AT ALL where Rosales and thousands of people were gathered. One was from the San Bernardino elevado, at least a mile from the grand stand, away from major movement AND STILL showing activity! I suppose if you are a naive chavista from the provinces you might get fooled that few people attended or paid attention, but if you are from Caracas, chavista or not, YOU KNOW exactly the manipulation. That you might want to acknowledge it is another matter. Has Chavez already given up on Caracas to play with such crass and silly TV tactics? Not to mention that it allows further freedom to Globovision to become more partisan if wished for...

Anyway, for now let's savor the real images from Globovision and that Rosales now commands the streets of Caracas. I doubt that even if all provincial Pullmans are drafted Chavez could fill up the Libertador the way Rosales just did. The electoral campaign has just shifted a gear today, and the consequences will show quickly. By the size of the rally, comparable or larger to the ones of opposition heydays of 2002-2004, we did see a real opinion poll and the opposition with Rosales is now at least at its 2004 "CNE official number" of 40%. Or more. Chavismo has taken its third big hit in a week!

UPDATE 8: Ooops! Rosales just arrived! With his family around, including the latest baby. He is starting his discourse. "The union of East and West of Caracas". El Ejemplo que Caracas dio. Etc... It is going to be good! The provincial Maracucho gaining over sifrino Caracas. From Yaracuy, well, I love it!

OK, now lunch.

UPDATE 7: Rosales has not arrived yet. Apparently he is coming walking through the crowds, not Carnival Queen style on a chariot as some others have been doing lately. Hence the delay .

Globovison shows a helicopter of the police stationned above the march. Of course, as usual, the opposition is not allowed to fly its own helicopter, only chavismo can show images of its marches from the sky (which they rarely do anyway, you know, not as great as they would have us beleive they are). Nothing new here, same chavismo unfair advantage as usual. But that is fine, the crowds filmed on the ground leave no doubt as the big hit in Caracas. I am not even bothering with VTV anymore.

Break time for lunch. Hey! I am not at the march and I see no reason to starve and dehydrate.

UPDATE 6: Now they have a cumbia on the grandstand, which evolves into Amparito. These guys know what they are doing!

UPDATE 5: Gaitas on the stand, Maracaibo15!!!! Rosales is about to arrive. The images of Globovision are now spectacular!

I have some vicarious living through my cell phone constant ringing from my assorted folks and friends at the march. They all want to know what I see on TV. none of them can reach the Libertador... Shit! I wish I were there.

UPDATE 4: There was something that did not fit in what I am watching on TV. And it hit me: not as many Venezuelan flags as usual. This time many, a lot of people in fact, came with the colors of their political organization. So you see lots of green(surprising!) ,more orange than expected, many yellow/black, a decent sprinkiling of red, and a lot of blue but not an overwhelming amount of it. In other words, quite a political rainbow. White I did not see much but I suspect that they are covered by the blue :)

UPDATE 3: Second good line of the day. Referring to Bernal that managed not to give the Bolivar Avenue for the rally, from somebody on the stand: "Now we need the Bolivar Avenue. Not for the rally but as an annex for this one".

UPDATE 2: And what is VTV showing? Well, they are at Maiquetia, interviewing the high level commission leaving for La Paragua. Now that Rosales has said publicly that the miners have been abandoned, that not a single important public servant, not even the governor of the state came to check the area after the army related assassination of half a dozen miners (at least), so now the government reacts and the ministers of Labor and Environment are interviewed separately, alone, only by VTV at the airport. Now what is amazing is the wooden technocratic language they use. Amazingly they are going there to "bring" solutions, we do not hear of any commission set to "listen" to the natives. We hear all the code words, cooperativism, defense of the environnement, union of the people, progress of Latin America, socialism of the people, community work, education projects, etc, etc, but not a single consolation word! It is simply astounding to see how detached, how out of touch with the political moment these ministers are!

Of course they also must cover the march. So what do they do? From the Centro Lido they report AFTER the march left. The stupid reporter states that "in 17 minutes everyone was gone". Showing that she is either stupid, has never reported from a march, or is just manipulating the information (or all of the above). And not realizing that if the march is gone, judging by the numbers of laggards it was an impressive group even if they left in 17 minutes, military style... Cada ladrón juzga por su condición.

They also have cameras. They comment on the rally but filming side streets where groups of people are marching towards the Libertador. Thus the naive chavista can feel comforted in thinking that the rally has a poor attendance. Of course the lower level of the Libertador is closed to traffic and they linger lovingly on its empty expanse while the people walk in dense groups on the higher level, but, oh, so conveniently hidden by a group of large trees. VTV sure spent a lot of time picking its angles to minimize everything as much as possible. The silliness of it all it is quite amusing, you know.

Ah! And I was forgetting! They keep patting themselves on the back as to how fair their coverage is!!!!!

UPDATE 1: It seems to be a success, a large success at that. My favorite line so far: "We are so happy, it smells like sulfur everywhere!". So much for Chavez UN speech effect on the self esteem of Venezuelans....

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Today Rosales is checking if he has appeal in Caracas. His campaign has been, wisely, oriented to the Venezuelan provinces as is fitting for the governor of the largest Venezuelan state. But eventually he had to check out if fancy and chevere Caraqueños will support him since their two candidates, Borges and Petkoff had to withdraw in favor of Rosales.

The initial reaction as seen on TV is good. Globovision is showing lots of people gathering, and no buses. Not that it matters, there would be not enough buses to carry what I see on TV. But even more telling, VTV, the state network prefers to stay silent which speaks volume. They probably are either trying to find the march with less people to film (there are 4 marches, see map below) or they have decided to ignore it altogether. VTV less and less restrained partisanship is, by the way, allowing Globovision to show more partiality too, each side probably preferring to accept the facts and have one completely dedicated TV media dedicated to their cause. Not ethical, of course, but at least more honest.

There are thus 4 ways to gather in Avenida Libertador where the meeting will take place (which, by the way, can hold more people than the Bolivar avenue if less prestigious or spectacular, but the government managed to trump the use of the Bolivar this time). Everyone that I know in Caracas and can make it is going to the march. Just as in the good old days of El Paro Civico of 12/2002. Globovision is having a field day so far.

More later.

PS: It seems that wherever Rosales is, I am not. When he was in Yaracuy I was in Caracas. when he is in Caracas I am back at home. Oh well...

http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/


63 posted on 10/07/2006 8:22:43 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigshit be upon him))
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To: Alia; livius; proud_yank; Kenny Bunk; Founding Father; Kitten Festival; chilepepper; Fiddlstix; ...
I'm pinging you all to the pics in posts #59 and #62 above, and thank you Founding Father for posting them along with the nice blog excerpts.

I want to post one short quote from the blog excerpt in post #58 above:

". . . People were happy, excited, friendly. . . ."

The key words there are "happy" and "friendly." One of the things I remember very clearly about watching leftist demonstrations in Latin America; and I have seen them up close in Mexico City, and the cities of Bogota and Manizales in Colombia, is that the left organizes the alienated, who show up angry and frustrated. They do not smile. Of everything I've read about the demonstrations so far, this little quote says more to me about the real enthusiasm and honest support Rosales is getting, as opposed to people who are pressured, threatened, or even paid to show up. The StJacques Law of Actual Political Enthusiasm is: You can make 'em show up, but you can't make 'em smile. I'm not kidding here, this is important.

And my personal estimate of the crowd size based upon what I have seen in the pics is between 150,000 to 175,000 people in attendance. That's awesome!
64 posted on 10/07/2006 8:37:03 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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It is, but how are they going the win the election?
Chavez won't allow it.


65 posted on 10/07/2006 8:45:16 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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It is, but how are they going the win the election? Chavez won't allow it.

Maybe he won't have a choice. I am beginning to think that Chavez isn't as secure as he thinks he is. Remember all the fuss a few weeks ago when it looked like he was running home to head off a coup?

66 posted on 10/07/2006 9:00:35 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Chugo will lie, cheat, threaten, use violence, rig the vote, whatever it takes to stay in power. He's a communist. He will never, ever be elected out of office. He'll need to be carried out in a body-bag.


67 posted on 10/07/2006 9:04:59 PM PDT by Antoninus (Attention GOP---Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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I think that's right. I don't know the details of the situation, but I've never seen real evidence to suggest otherwise.


68 posted on 10/07/2006 9:08:41 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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I'm not trying to give anyone the impression that I expect Rosales to win a fair election at the ballot box. I fully expect Chavez to use his control over the electoral rolls, his ability to control patronage and entitlements, his widely-dispersed goon squads, his control over the media, and more to stay in power.

But the selection of a new President is not what's at stake in this election. What is at stake -- and God help me, I'm going to use a phrase now popular among the Mexican Left -- is Chavez's "legitimacy." While I am in no doubt that Chavez can rig the election result, I am becoming increasingly convinced that he will not be able to do so in the dark. And once the mask is off, everything changes throughout Latin America. Everything!

This election campaign is about daylight as a precursor to eventual victory, not about the quick result we would hope for in a truly democratic process. We must all remind ourselves that our dedication to the defeat of radical leftism is one we hold until our deaths, and take heart that a major step on the path towards the eventual victory of democracy is now underway.

These are exciting times.
69 posted on 10/07/2006 9:34:10 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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I like your optimisn, StJacques. I'm praying for a Chavez defeat--now if possible, later if that's the best we can do.


70 posted on 10/07/2006 9:38:46 PM PDT by Antoninus (Attention GOP---Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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In other words, Chavez stays until he dies a natural death like Castro, but many Venezuelans will hate him and know him for who he is? Seems to me they already did, even before this big demonstration. I'd like to know how he goes within the near to medium future, not 40 years from now.


71 posted on 10/07/2006 9:39:52 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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". . . I'd like to know how he goes within the near to medium future . . ."

Chavez will go in the "medium future." Once the lie is put to his façade of legitimacy, forces within Venezuela will begin to align themselves differently. The army will be the key, and Chavez has politicized it a good deal and increased its share of appropriations. But he has not completely "cleansed" it of either opposition sentiment or, more importantly, of civic sentiment. The dynamic will be one in which the rest of Venezuela aligns itself openly against Chavez's retention of power and the army comes on board last.

I give Chavez three years tops, provided that Rosales makes a strong enough showing that Chavez must use what is openly-recognized as fraud to defeat him. Rosales is not there yet, but it is now just short of two months since the opposition unified itself behind Rosales's candidacy and the growth of its power is marked. All the momentum is with Rosales right now. That was the gist of the article at this link put up on the El Universal (Caracas) web site this morning entitled (translated) "Mendoza says that Rosales is Marking the Electoral Agenda against Chavez." It was an interview this morning with the ex-Governor of the Venezuelan State of Miranda, Enrique Mendoza, who was commenting upon Rosales's recent success and I think it represented an accurate appraisal of what is going on. According to Mendoza Chavez is being forced to react to Rosales rather than the other way around, and that is the first time this has happened to Chavez.

Rosales clearly has the momentum. The question is can he keep it.
72 posted on 10/07/2006 10:20:45 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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OK, thanks, Jacques. This makes sense.


73 posted on 10/07/2006 10:34:05 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: StJacques

massive opposition rally against Chavez this weekend:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4801521.stm


74 posted on 10/08/2006 9:41:10 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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"massive opposition rally against Chavez this weekend"

I hope you looked at the above posts and pics. There's a lot on that rally here.
75 posted on 10/08/2006 11:06:41 AM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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>>>I hope you looked at the above posts and pics.<<<

So I see. You guys are even ahead of DrudgeReport.com :-) I presumed it was breaking news, but you guys work at the speed of internet time. Way to go :-)


76 posted on 10/08/2006 3:12:48 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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". . . I presumed it was breaking news, but you guys work at the speed of internet time. . . ."

There's more:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1715937/posts
77 posted on 10/08/2006 3:41:25 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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Some good pics here.



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78 posted on 10/09/2006 12:56:47 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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Well, I hope Venezuelans are waking up and get rid of that nasty individual sooner rather than later.


79 posted on 10/09/2006 1:17:40 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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