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Use of fiction by Ayn Rand
National Review ^ | 1957 | Whittaker Chambers

Posted on 10/02/2006 6:59:27 PM PDT by Rob Larrikin

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1 posted on 10/02/2006 6:59:28 PM PDT by Rob Larrikin
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To: PGalt; bruinbirdman; traviskicks; UnklGene; aynrandfreak; DoctorMichael; elfman2; CSM; ...

Ayn Rand ping


2 posted on 10/02/2006 7:01:57 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("The concept of individual rights is so new ... most men have not grasped it fully to this day."Rand)
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To: Rob Larrikin

And those steamy scenes in "The Fountainhead" too. Hubba. hubba.


3 posted on 10/02/2006 7:03:49 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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To: Rob Larrikin
Two words: Farenheit 9/11.
4 posted on 10/02/2006 7:06:14 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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To: Rob Larrikin

Nice post. I like Whittaker Chambers even better than Rand.


5 posted on 10/02/2006 7:09:09 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Rob Larrikin; FreeKeys

Welcome to FreeRepublic. Thanks for posting. Thanks for the ping FreeKeys.


6 posted on 10/02/2006 7:11:31 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Rob Larrikin

That was one heavy book. I read 3/4 of it but it seemed to be repeating itself. I also read The Fountainhead like every other weenie who wanted to be an Architect. FLLW never looked so good as in that book. And he was screwing everything that moved in real life.


7 posted on 10/02/2006 7:13:52 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs Rules! Brilliant!)
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To: Rob Larrikin
The last time I checked, Whittaker Chambers wasn't exactly a "leftie."

Mark

8 posted on 10/02/2006 7:14:44 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Thebaddog

Can't believe the book is 40 years old already. Rand was way ahead of her time.


9 posted on 10/02/2006 7:15:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Rob Larrikin
Chambers was not exactly a lefty. Witness contains more genuine distilled emotion than the entire bulk of Atlas Shrugged.

Personally I thought it a very enjoyable novel if far too long and in spots impossibly repetitive. I don't think you can really balance polemic and fiction very well and where she restricted herself to plot, character, and pace Atlas Shrugged stands on its own.

I do take issue with Chambers' statement “The mischief here is that the author, dodging into fiction, nevertheless counts on your reading it as political reality.” The novel works best where it does describe political reality - her ability to portray the characters she describes as "looters and moochers" is so incredibly sharp that I swear I know personally each and every one of them. It may be that their presence wasn't quite so obvious in 1957 as it is today, but you could drop any one of their bleatings seamlessly into today's degenerate political discourse and never guess that it was half a century old.

Her protagonists, however, weren't in my opinion quite so finely drawn. Not a one of them had a single character flaw except a self-doubt that was removed by the workings of the Ubermenschen Galt, d'Anconia, etc. The real world isn't actually much like that as I see it, and because of that we are unlikely to see the series of events she postulated. Atlas, such as he is, is likely to remain in chains. All IMHO and subject to furious debate, of course.

10 posted on 10/02/2006 7:16:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Rob Larrikin
The Soviets didn't have much use for Alexandr Solzhenitsyn either. He used literature to crystalize an atrocity that was immense and multi-layered.
11 posted on 10/02/2006 7:18:35 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Rob Larrikin
Thanks for the vanity, Rob. What an erudite, in-depth commentary on Whitaker Chambers' review of Ayn Rand's masterpiece 'Atlas Shrugged'. The tightly knotted complexity of Chambers' carefully constructed review questioning Rand's merits as a novelist and thinker were simply cut away to nothing by the forceful--even Alexandrian-- simplicity of your deceptively plainspoken counterargument. The mind simply boggles.
12 posted on 10/02/2006 7:19:23 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Billthedrill
"Chambers was not exactly a lefty. Witness contains more genuine distilled emotion than the entire bulk of Atlas Shrugged."

You have that right. Witness is a tougn but important read.

13 posted on 10/02/2006 7:25:31 PM PDT by n230099 ("If the creator had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely meant us to stick it out.")
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To: Rob Larrikin

I'm totally in awe of what authors like Rand did without the benefit of a word processor. Vonnegut too, with Sirens of Titan.


14 posted on 10/02/2006 7:27:35 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: Rob Larrikin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710730/posts


15 posted on 10/02/2006 7:30:07 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: MarkL

At the time he wrote this article, he hadn't been a leftie in a long time.


16 posted on 10/02/2006 7:30:48 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: rbg81

I spent a summer reading "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire." I know what you mean. How those authors churned out those massive works - alone - is fantastic.


17 posted on 10/02/2006 7:31:05 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Thebaddog
That was one heavy book. I read 3/4 of it but it seemed to be repeating itself.

I discovered it when I was 15. For about a year, it seemed like the most important thing ever written. But that speech by John Galt at the end. Snooooooooze . . . .

18 posted on 10/02/2006 7:31:09 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Billthedrill
Not a one of them had a single character flaw . . .

Except promiscuity and arrogance.

"If they won't build it my way, then, well, I'll just blow it up. There's a good idea! After all, they just own the building. I am the artiste."

Her protagonists were sociopaths. But as you say, her portraits of the moochers was so right on, it hurt. But then, they were sociopaths too.

19 posted on 10/02/2006 7:35:27 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Rob Larrikin

leftists use ficticious claims, photos, and voters all the time...


20 posted on 10/02/2006 7:37:28 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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