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(Wash. Times) "Resign, Mr. Speaker"
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061002-102008-9058r.htm ^

Posted on 10/02/2006 10:02:37 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

"House Speaker Dennis Hastert must do the only right thing, and resign his speakership at once."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: foley; foleygate
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Wow. Tough words from a usually GOP-friendly paper.
1 posted on 10/02/2006 10:02:37 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Hasterts reaction to the Jefferson issue was the last straw.


2 posted on 10/02/2006 10:04:15 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Vote Republican. Nothing else trumps this basic credo.

But Frist is one of that form of Republican that I find unnecessarily ineffective.

These pious, passive, pussies have no idea the nature of the enemy we fight.

Who are the enemy?

They are ruthless, anti-American, evil, despicable vermin who conspire to kill you, your family and your friends right where you sleep.

They are media propaganda experts, and delight in our sputtering respectful rebuttals, while they spew serial outrageous hypocritical accusations.

They delight in our unilateral adherence to Marquess of Queensbury rules of engagement, while they plot to slit our throats.

They are the enemy.

They are Democrats.


3 posted on 10/02/2006 10:08:19 PM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
So, what will happen if the GOP, from now on, begins a zero-tolerance policy on gay issues? If we start splitting hairs again in the future, will we be back to the situation that we're in now?

Is this really what the Washington Times is suggesting, no more wiggle room for gay public behavior?

-PJ

4 posted on 10/02/2006 10:08:22 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: zarf

Flashback:

Congressman found with 90K in cash in freezer!

GOP Leadership:

"There are bigger issues at stake"

Ah,no....


5 posted on 10/02/2006 10:08:24 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Republicans in full melt-down mode. Get ready for two years of Democrat majorities in Congress.


6 posted on 10/02/2006 10:08:39 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Stallone

Vote Republican. Nothing else trumps this basic credo.

But Hastert is one of that form of Republican that I find unnecessarily ineffective.

These pious, passive, pussies have no idea the nature of the enemy we fight.

Who are the enemy?

They are ruthless, anti-American, evil, despicable vermin who conspire to kill you, your family and your friends right where you sleep.

They are media propaganda experts, and delight in our sputtering respectful rebuttals, while they spew serial outrageous hypocritical accusations.

They delight in our unilateral adherence to Marquess of Queensbury rules of engagement, while they plot to slit our throats.

They are the enemy.

They are Democrats.


7 posted on 10/02/2006 10:08:48 PM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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To: Stallone

So true. These Rinos will be the death of us.


8 posted on 10/02/2006 10:10:27 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Why d posting only one sentence from an article when we're allowed up to 300 words?

Here's a 300-word excerpt:

The facts of the disgrace of Mark Foley, who was a Republican member of the House from a Florida district until he resigned last week, constitute a disgrace for every Republican member of Congress. Red flags emerged in late 2005, perhaps even earlier, in suggestive and wholly inappropriate e-mail messages to underage congressional pages. His aberrant, predatory -- and possibly criminal -- behavior was an open secret among the pages who were his prey. The evidence was strong enough long enough ago that the speaker should have relieved Mr. Foley of his committee responsibilities contingent on a full investigation to learn what had taken place, whether any laws had been violated and what action, up to and including prosecution, were warranted by the facts. This never happened.

--Snip--

Now the scandal must unfold on the front pages of the newspapers and on the television screens, as transcripts of lewd messages emerge and doubts are rightly raised about the forthrightness of the Republican stewards of the 109th Congress. Some Democrats are attempting to make this "a Republican scandal," and they shouldn't; Democrats have contributed more than their share of characters in the tawdry history of congressional sexual scandals. Sexual predators come in all shapes, sizes and partisan hues, in institutions within and without government. When predators are found they must be dealt with, forcefully and swiftly. This time the offender is a Republican, and Republicans can't simply "get ahead" of the scandal by competing to make the most noise in calls for a full investigation. The time for that is long past.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert must do the only right thing, and resign his speakership at once.

--Snip--


9 posted on 10/02/2006 10:10:50 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Lunatic Fringe

LOL, I elected no newspaper to run my country.

The Commie-Vampires of the left will get no help from me.


10 posted on 10/02/2006 10:11:29 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: My2Cents
Republicans in full melt-down mode. Get ready for two years of Democrat majorities in Congress.

Naive is the word that comes to mind about this group of republicans! I can't believe they weren't expecting something like this from the Dummies!

11 posted on 10/02/2006 10:12:19 PM PDT by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

None of them are worth a warm bucket of piss.


12 posted on 10/02/2006 10:14:05 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: conservative in nyc

I guess I missed in the editorial where they prove he knew something about the perv.


13 posted on 10/02/2006 10:14:50 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: roses of sharon
LOUDER!

"I elected no newspaper to run my country."

14 posted on 10/02/2006 10:15:46 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Stallone

BTTT!!!!!!!!!

Excellent post. I disagree, but it gets my vote for post of the day.


15 posted on 10/02/2006 10:17:19 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The washington times is made of lame and fail.


16 posted on 10/02/2006 10:17:24 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Lunatic Fringe

"House Speaker Dennis Hastert must do the only right thing, and resign his speakership at once."


Don't you dare listen in on terrorists phone calls but you better know everything ever typed in an online communication by any of your caucus!

Ridiculous.


17 posted on 10/02/2006 10:19:15 PM PDT by BLS (It's time to redefine your deiphobic mind.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Either he was grossly negligent for not taking the red flags fully into account and ordering a swift investigation, for not even remembering the order of events leading up to last week's revelations -- or he deliberately looked the other way in hopes that a brewing scandal would simply blow away

Nonsense. The GOP leadership told the guy to quit writing emails, which is what the family requested. And Foley stopped. And there was no indication there was any further questionable behavior by Foley.

Hastert certainly should NOT resign over this.

18 posted on 10/02/2006 10:19:52 PM PDT by what's up
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To: samadams2000
The Washington Times thinks the creepy (but not sexually explicit) e-mails are enough for Hastert to go. I had to edit for space, but in the next sentence, they argue that either Hastert was negligent for not recognizing a red flag and ordering an investigation sooner or he deliberately looked the other way in hopes it would go away.
19 posted on 10/02/2006 10:20:15 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Political Junkie Too
It seems to me that congressman Foley's behavior is what we should have expected from a homosexual congressman. We lie to ourselves when we say otherwise. Since a homosexual's starting point is immoral and perverted why would we expect them to leave children alone. Frankly, I wouldn't want them around my male or female dog either...
20 posted on 10/02/2006 10:20:35 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The left has done their job on this one. They've fractured the right.


21 posted on 10/02/2006 10:21:05 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: My2Cents
Get ready for two years of Democrat majorities in Congress.

If Hastert resigns, we will be surrendering the nation to liberal peaceniks in a time of war. The President will be helpless, and the RINOs in the Senate will rush to the Democrats side to save their asses.

Can you say "President Nancy Pelosi"?

22 posted on 10/02/2006 10:22:27 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Stallone

Its pretty funny that the scumbags at the NYT think this is going to help their party of socialist crooks, sex perverts,baby killers,imbeciles and degenerate trial lawyers.

Anybody stupid enough to care about this is already voting democrap.


23 posted on 10/02/2006 10:24:22 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

More wise words from the Inside the Beltway Nomes! Heres a clue Times, homosexuals are deviants that cannot be trusted with our children. Your support of PC Stalinism is where the problem lies.

Pray for W and Our Troops


24 posted on 10/02/2006 10:25:14 PM PDT by bray (Voting for the Rats is a Deathwish)
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To: roses of sharon
The Commie-Vampires of the left will get no help from me.

The Washington Times is a conservative paper.

25 posted on 10/02/2006 10:25:58 PM PDT by TChad
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To: conservative in nyc
Hastert already proved he is unfit when he defended that socialist crook Jefferson.

Now, however is not the time for him to resign.

That said, he should not get another term as Speaker.

26 posted on 10/02/2006 10:27:19 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Just change the name to: "The Washington Post-Times".


27 posted on 10/02/2006 10:28:48 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Clinton came close to killing all of our enemies, they damn near laughed themselves to death.)
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To: TChad
Commie-Vampires = Democrats

I could care less what any Rightwing media has to say, they are lame and weak.

As evidenced by their competition in the liberal media who have run rings around them for decades.

ABCCBSNBCCNNBBCNPRMSNBCTIMENEWSWEEKHOLLYWOODNYTWP..........

Conservative office holders have done far more for this country than Conservative media.
28 posted on 10/02/2006 10:40:16 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: TChad

"The Washington Times is a Conservative paper."

Not anymore. It's no longer fit for a Conservative to wipe his butt on!


29 posted on 10/02/2006 10:42:51 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Clinton came close to killing all of our enemies, they damn near laughed themselves to death.)
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To: blondee123
Naive is the word that comes to mind about this group of republicans! I can't believe they weren't expecting something like this from the Dummies! a 50-year-old closeted gay man who sent creepy emails to a 16-year-old boy

There, I fixed it.

30 posted on 10/02/2006 10:43:19 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I have no friggin' clue how Denny has anything to do with Foley being gay or being a ped. It's not lke Hastert micromanages every activity of every congressman and woman from the GOP.

Next the Washington Times will be telling us Bush should resign because his NSA chief was found choking his chicken.


31 posted on 10/02/2006 10:47:02 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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32 posted on 10/02/2006 10:50:07 PM PDT by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: blondee123
I can't believe they weren't expecting something like this from the Dummies!

You mean Foley, Shimkus, and Hastert?

33 posted on 10/02/2006 10:52:06 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Lunatic Fringe
No, Mr. Hastert shouldn't resign. He has done nothing to merit that, especially in this case. He and the other leaders didn't know about the lewd messages until they were made public. The other messages, which he did know about, were not sexual in nature, just annoying to the recipient whose PARENTS didn't want a big deal made of it, they just wanted them to stop.

The Times should be placing the blame on Mr. Foley, where it belongs, but it should also follow up closely on exactly WHO provided the texts of the Instant Messages to ABC. THAT would be something useful the paper could do rather than try to generate useless outrage over Mr. Hastert.

34 posted on 10/02/2006 11:06:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Tony Blankley is the Editor of the Editorial Page.

I trust Tony Blankley.


35 posted on 10/02/2006 11:10:07 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Lunatic Fringe
He gave phony answers Friday to the old and ever-relevant questions of what did he know and when did he know it?

And they know Hassert is lying how??

You can't throw someone out of Congress on a rumor that someone is gay

Though you can with the knowledge of those graphic IM's .. which were not known until Friday

36 posted on 10/02/2006 11:17:38 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: roses of sharon

The Right wing Media sites on the iNternet and on Radio talk shows has blown the liberals away time and again.

The T.V. networks cannot even compete with Fox News, and the morons like Chris Matthews dont even come close on cable.

So The Right Wing Media, where it can be heard, is most listen too.

Go Hannity, Limbaugh,and the rest of the troops!
Ops4


37 posted on 10/02/2006 11:21:06 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

What a stupid, ridiculous, knee jerk reaction from a paper that used to be reasonable. Why should Hastert resign when the full facts behind it are not known, is'nt he stepping down away. Wash times has lost it, with cancelled subscriptions.


38 posted on 10/03/2006 12:19:24 AM PDT by GregH
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To: Political Junkie Too

Good question, good post!


39 posted on 10/03/2006 1:14:37 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: My2Cents

Looks like that.


40 posted on 10/03/2006 1:15:02 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: Stallone; onyx; kcvl
Wow............. great post.

There are surely two different games being "played" with two different sets of rules.

****

The socialist/Marxist/liberal media is the most destructive, relentless, and ruthless enemy of this Republic.

****

And I'm with you on the Democrat Party.

41 posted on 10/03/2006 1:18:33 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Just change the name to: "The Washington Post-Times".

Sounds good to me.

42 posted on 10/03/2006 1:23:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: roses of sharon
I could care less what any Rightwing media has to say, they are lame and weak. As evidenced by their competition in the liberal media who have run rings around them for decades. ABCCBSNBCCNNBBCNPRMSNBCTIMENEWSWEEKHOLLYWOODNYTWP.......... ---

****

Right.

43 posted on 10/03/2006 1:24:40 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

I cannot believe the Wasington Times came out with this bull.


44 posted on 10/03/2006 1:25:34 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: Lunatic Fringe; All

The Washington Times, not to mention Michael Reagan are forgetting the "Eleventh Commandmant" as espoused by the greatest US President of the 20th Century.

"Thou shall not speak ill of a fellow Republican." (Ronald Reagan)

If Republicans keep this up the Dems are not going to have to come up with any other issues. They will continue to pound on Foley, and link him to all Republicans. What the GOP needs to do, led by Speaker Hastert, is to attack Mark Foley themselves (the 11th commandmant does not apply to pedophiles). Then they need to go on the attack on the Dems for politicizing the saftey of children.

Meanwhile President Bush needs to point out that the Dems are attempting to distract the American people from the "War on Terror", and the fact that if they get into office the country will be at the mercy of these Al'Qaeda hugging liberals. He needs to hit home the fact that the Dems are against any programs (i.e. Wiretaps, Financial Transactions, Interrogations) that protect the American people from Islamic Terrorism.

President Bush please tell the American people to heed the words of Ronald Reagan:

"We in America have learned bitter lessons from two world wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We've learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrranical governments with an expansionist intent." (Ronald Reagan)


45 posted on 10/03/2006 1:26:33 AM PDT by AKSurprise
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Tough words from a usually GOP-friendly paper.

No, the Washington Times is just displaying ignorance. Hastert's job isn't to be a babysitter. I think every member of Congress is old enough to know better (or at least should). Mark Foley had the good graces to resign. Have we come this far that we've raised the standard of Washington to the point the leaders have to know everything their party members are doing at every minute during the day?

It's not Hastert's fault Foley is a perverted creep.

46 posted on 10/03/2006 2:23:58 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

This could seriously depress R turnout.


47 posted on 10/03/2006 2:40:52 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Moreover, all available evidence suggests that the Republican leadership did not share anything related to this matter with any Democrat.

IMO, this is the damning fact. It's indistinguishable from the actions of someone trying to cover it up. It's conceivable that if they had pursued the matter further, they would have found out about the more damaging IM's.
48 posted on 10/03/2006 2:45:41 AM PDT by self_evident
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To: Lunatic Fringe; onyx
The evidence was strong enough long enough ago that the speaker should have relieved Mr. Foley of his committee responsibilities

"strong enough long enough" --- maybe some others knew for long enough, but not Hastert.

This newspaper has gone over the edge.

49 posted on 10/03/2006 2:47:36 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Mr. Hastert insisted that he learned of the most flagrant instant-message exchange from 2003 only last Friday, when it was reported by ABC News. This is irrelevant. ----

This is NOT irrelevant.

50 posted on 10/03/2006 2:49:03 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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