Posted on 10/03/2006 12:15:11 AM PDT by DaveTesla
While liberal Democrats snicker over Florida Congressman Mark Foley's sex scandal--his graphic e-mails with underage pages, they really need to look at their own side of the aisle in Congress.
Foley resigned, as he should have, and Republican's called for an investigation. Now, the libs are screaming and yelling about "What did the GOP know and when did they know it." But the fact is that whenever GOP leadership learns of a likely illegal sex scandal involving their members, they've always called for his (there have not yet been any "hers," but someday there will be) resignation.
I know this first-hand. When I was in high school and college, I worked as an intern on Capitol Hill for three Republican Congressman--Mark Siljander of Michigan, Phil Crane of Illinois, and Donald E. "Buz" Lukens of Ohio. During my junior year of college, just after I worked for Lukens, he was caught in a sex scandal, broken by tabloid show "A Current Affair" (then hosted by Bill O'Reilly). Lukens was blackmailed on tape (all set up and arranged by the FOX show) by a teen-age prostitute and her mother, who was apparently her pimp and "marketed" her as "of legal age." Lukens was apparently one of their "customers."
It gave new meaning to the Christmas cards he sent me that said "Debbie, We hardly knew ye." It was the other way around, apparently. I hardly knew him. Still, I felt bad for him--it was a sleazy situation created in part by a sleazy, sick pimp mother (to whom nothing happened) and a sleazy TV show whose host now claims he's a "culture warrior." Buz Lukens was always nice to me (no, not in that way) and all of those who worked for him. And I saw him lose everything. He lost his Congressional seat, the scant money he had, was forced to take AIDS tests, and had to attend sex offender education. He lost everything.
Of note is how Republicans treated the situation. The House GOP leadership immediately called for an ethics investigation and Lukens' resignation. When Lukens refused, GOP leadership recruited a primary opponent whom they supported against Lukens. The man, John Boehner, won--and, as a Congressman and GOP Majority Leader, now plays a lot of golf and pressures ICE not to deport Muslim illegal aliens in his district.
Contrast his and Mark Foley's treatment with the way Dems treated Congressman Barney Frank, a gay, far-left Massachusetts Democrat. In 1985, he engaged the "services" of gay prostitute Stephen Gobie, who advertised in the Washington Gay Blade that he had a "hot bottom." Soon Gobie was Frank's live-in boyfriend, and Frank was soliciting the House clerk to clear Gobie's many traffic tickets. And Gobie was running his prostitution business, clear as the day, out of Frank's Washington, DC residence.
And there's more. According to The Boston Globe:
He [Frank] and Gobie carried on a clandestine affair, during which time Frank hired Gobie as a driver despite knowing Gobie was on probation for drug possession and for possession of child pornography. Frank used his House privileges to fix Gobie's parking tickets. He wrote a memo trying to clear Gobie from probation that was disingenuous at best and an outright deception at worst.
So what happened to Frank for illegally hiring a prostitute, for fixing that prostitute's tickets, for trying to fix the guy's probation, and for allowing the prostitute to run his "business" out of Frank's Congressional residence? Nada. Nothing.
And guess who was in charge of the House of Reps. then? Hint: It wasn't the GOP. And guess what they did about it? Hint: NOTHING. And guess what else? No-one asked, "What did the Democrats know and when did they know it?" By the way, they never called for an ethics investigation of Frank. The GOP did, but since they didn't run Congress then, nothing happened. And there were never any calls for his resignation by the leadership of his party. None.
The e-mails by Mark Foley are outrageous and unacceptable. He should have been ousted, as he was. There is no indication that he ever went beyond e-mails with House pages or that Republican leadership knew of the more explicit e-mails, just the more benign, but suspicious ones. But he is gone.
And all the Republican sex offenders are gone--ousted by their own party's leadership. But Barney Frank is still there. And he's celebrated by Democratic Party leaders. Tells us all we need to know.
Ditto, regarding Monica's boyfriend.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Just curious, is someone who writes sexually explicit notes to someone a sex offender?
Anne Coulter nailed a Dem guy on Fox with this very point on Fox this weekend. The guy had a very weak response.
This hasn't played out yet. This reminds me of of the Joe Steffen/MD4Bush setup with one sided postings (here emails or IM's) that the media sat on.
bttt
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Bill O'Reilly never was host of A Current Affair, a 20th Century Fox Television production. Maury Povich broke through nationally on that show. O'Reilly was the first host of Affair knockoff Inside Edition, distributed by KingWorld, the company that brought TV The Little Rascals, syndicated Wheel of Fortune, and Oprah, among other things.
For what it's worth, Paramount's Affair clone, Hard Copy, was hosted by Diane Dimond, Matt Drudge's least favorite celeb reporter (how dare she assume Michael Jackson is a pervert!).
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Don't all pages have to be over 16 years old?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
IN this case isn't the distinction between the emails which the GOp DID have and the IM's which they did NOT have kind of important? In general the article is good, but blurring the distinction between the two different groups of communications is incoPrrect and plays into the hands fo the Dims.
Yes, but this doesn't apply to White House interns when a Democrat is president.
Gerry Studds would have been a better example for this article.
But he did not leave someone to die in his car while he tried to cover himself.
Drug/alcohol rehab and whiplash collars = the last refuge of scoundrels.
The Senate requires pages to be at least 14, the House at least 16.
Posted on one of the other hundreds of threads about the DemoKrat HippoKrazy.
I just can't get over the double standard of the Rats.
Monica's boyfriend does it with an intern in the White House and it's all 'private' etc.
The radio host, John Williams on WGN in Chicago was doing the Hissy Chrissy over this last night, wailing about JAIL TIME for Foley...cuz he sent icky emails to an intern!
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And Billy Jeff's pardon of Mel Reynolds, the black congressman from Chicago who had sex with a 16 year old, also should be brought into the picture. Apparently, Dems are only concerned about sexual exploitation when they aren't the ones doing it.
Who know's how this will play out, but ultimately this is yet again a symptom of GOP straying from their conservative roots, in my opinion.
Now the discussion is all about "democrats get away with it", or "democrats are worse".
If conservative adults were in charge, Foley would have been removed when the emails came to light.
Conservatives republican leaders would have known that when you compromise your core principles, nothing good comes from it.
Does the GOP seriously expect conservatives to vote for them when they aren't conservative?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"The important thing is Foley is gone. "
That republicans were willing to accept emails that were inappropriate (before the more salacious stuff came out, if we are to believe the republican leadership) speaks volumes.
Republican leadership wants conservatives to compromise on big government, now it's social issues. What's next?
The strategy of the liberal wing of the GOP (aka republican leadership) is apparently to get conservatives used to compromising their values so that they become just like them - with no conservative principle that can't be compromised away.
There is a much much greater issue than would appear.
Conservatives must accept big government and now tolerance of pedophilia in the name of political pragmatism. When you go down that path, there is no level to which you would stoop.
It's got the potential to be a whole lot uglier in Novembert than expected for the "Our SOB" party. And the GOP acts surprised.
Unfortunately they are not the only ones.
My "turncoats" list is as follows so far...
Washington Times
Joseph Farah
Michael Reagan
David Bossie
John Gibson
Did I miss anyone? Did anyone else who claims to be on our side join the Democrats since these schmucks did?
16 should be the cutoff. I and all of my friends "broke the ice" well before 16 anyway. These days its more like 14 when the kids are no longer virgins. Foley is one sick homo, to be sure, but this was not a "child", and social conservatives should stop getting their panties in a bunch over this trivial matter. The guy resigned. That should end the matter.
America knows and the Rats will pay in Nov.
Pray for W and Our Troops
You're right. Let's elect Speaker Pelosi. Brilliant!
Last night someone in the know said that some people in the GOP were using this incident to settle old scores and position themselves for 2008. I find this disgusting, as this kind of behavior can get democrats elected, and democrats are not fit to lead this nation during war and will get us all killed.
I too am surprised by how easily our own flock have knuckled under the to Democrat pressure right before an election. Foley the fag did this. The family didn't want to pursue it and didn't reveal the messages to Hastert et al. If Foley was a Democrat he would NOT have resigned. He would have called a press conference with a pastor or something, begged forgives and taken a "leave of absence" to "search my soul and heal". But we are not Democrats, and so Foley is gone. That should END the matter.
Just look at thow Democrats and REpublicans deal with sexual Instant Messages sent to children.
Democrats=Instant Messages are saved for THREE YEARS for political advantage.
Republicans=sender of instant messages is terminated IMMEDIATLY regardless of political advantage.
Is it just me, or is Brit Hume trying to get on your list?
Barney Fag isn't the only "offender" on the "D" side of the aisle ... Ted Kennedy, anyone? (Yah, I know: he's a senaturd ... still: He's a 'Rat).
"You're right. Let's elect Speaker Pelosi. Brilliant!"
So, if Pelosi gets elected Speaker, then it's all conservatives fault for not being flexible enough on their core values of big government and alternate lifestyles?
Actually,the issue is not about Democratics or Republicans. It is about another sick "public servant" who happens to be homo and like young boys.
Foley is a sick fag, He resigned. Hastert didn't see any messages. The family didn't want to pursue it. End of story. Check the facts and stop helping Democrats with this absurdity.
I am simply trying to see if any laws were broken.
Your post from David Horowitz says it all.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1712609/posts
And you are correct, at least Foley resigned.
At least one side does the right thing most of the time.
You sure nailed it on that one. Not even sure if "double standard" is the right phrase to describe that.
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