If he resigns, I'm not voting.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:09:23 AM PDT
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He should resign. The Republicans should also be working on their list of Democrats who were also aware of this, and getting those names out there, as well - so that they can resign too.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:12:36 AM PDT
It's possible Hastert is also a victim. Evidence indicates it is the Democrats who knew and sat on the info. All this hysteria is playing into the Democrats' hands.
There's no reason for him to resign over Foley.
There is no reason for Rove to resign over Wilson.
There is no reason for Rumsfeld to resign over WMDs.
There is no reason for Delay to resign over fundraising.
There is no reason for Scalia to recuse himself over his friendship with Cheney.
This is a typical Democrat ploy - if you can't unseat someone electorally, try to unseat them through the press.
If Hastert caves, that's weakness in the face of the enemy.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:18:20 AM PDT
("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
There MUST be an investigation and it MUST be led by Barney Franks. If that would be inappropriate perhaps Gary Studds could be lured out of retirement.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:20:03 AM PDT
So lets see just how far we can self destruct...
Hastart made a complete fool of himself with the Rep. William Jefferson/FBI fiasco claiming congress has special rights above the law - which was properly crushed by a federal judge.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:21:10 AM PDT
Strange that the Washington Times is saying this.
There is a slight possibility that the house with its strong border control put a crimp in the North American Union.
They are now being punished.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:24:21 AM PDT
("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
The SAME people that are calling for every republican's head over this are the SAME people that want GAY BOY SCOUT LEADERS!!!! and GAYS in the MILITARY!!!! HYPOCRITES!!
posted on 10/03/2006 4:25:40 AM PDT
by Suzy Quzy
("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
NPR had this as its lead into the 6 a.m. est news this morning. The Wash. Times was described as a "Washington conservative newspaper".
It is the first time that I recall a Wash. Times editorial ever being mentioned on NPR - in fact the Wash. Times has never even existed for NPR as far as its listening audience is concerned.
NPR is blatant in its bias. The process of omission and the elucidating of sought-after liberal comments from those it interviews makes it a daily propaganda source rather than a news source. Its only value is to know what the enemy is up to.
It has lately received a great deal of money - millions - through bequests from rich liberal widows and couples (whose ancestors in many instances earned it. And subsequently become even more arrogant in its bias.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:35:29 AM PDT
What utter BS. If what Hastert knew was limited to the e-mails he had no evidence to pursue the matter further. To now look back with 20-20 hindsight and say he should have done more is ridiculous.
As soon as the IM information became available, Foley was shown the door. Hastert has asked for a DOJ investigation.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:42:27 AM PDT
(Media bias? What media bias?)
Not much talk about the accomplishments of Foley is there? So the conservatives want Hastert to resign because Foley sent "dirty" emails to some kid. Not only that but Foley supposedly used Instant Messenger to talk dirty. Wow! I wonder if he also used the "n" word in 1970.
Why does the Washington Times not take a look at the overall impact homosexuals have on government effectiveness? Or the relationship between pedophiles and homosexuals (100% or 90%)?
Or silence owing to fear of being called a homophobe by the homosexual rights crowd (Democrats)? There are many aspects to the lack of common sense by today's leaders, both Republicans and Democrats alike, but especially Democrats.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:47:41 AM PDT
Let's see, two Florida newspapers saw the e-mails and did nothing. According to Drudge, law enforcement saw the e-mails and felt there was nothing to pursue. ABC had the e-mails since August. Brian Ross was too busy to pursue. Hastert "heard" about the e-mails and now he supposed to resign. Hardly.
How interesting is it that ABC is getting e-mails from other pages possibly implicating other members of Congress. Can you say 'backlash'?
If I were Hastert, I'd say, "I'm not going anywhere until the FBI, Justice Department investigation is complete."
posted on 10/03/2006 4:53:21 AM PDT
("Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom."--Ben Franklin)
When you're in charge, you're responsible for the things nobody tells you about, too. If Hastert didn't know, he should have. Sorry, but there's no other way to ensure that bosses take their jobs seriously.
posted on 10/03/2006 4:53:54 AM PDT
If the Times wants someone to resign, they should call on all Senate republicans to resign. They've been a complete failure for Bush.
posted on 10/03/2006 5:07:52 AM PDT
(It's not a religion.)
There is NO evidence presented by anyone than Hastert knew about the explicit IMs. All that he knew, according to him, and disputed by NO ONE with any proof or evidence, is that Foley asked one page about how he fared in Katrina, his birthday, and a photo. NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. The facts show Democrat supporters knew, and probably Democrat leaders as well.
posted on 10/03/2006 5:10:34 AM PDT
(" Surrender NANCY!" What did you and other Dem leaders know and when about Foley???)
The Speaker should not resign. This has nothing to do his record on leading the House - which can be debated. This has to do with Republicans rolling over when there is a "scandal." Why do Republicans fall into the trap of resigning instead of fighting? Why do Democrats get to keep seats, committee assignments, etc. after they are convicted and/or compromised?
This whole Foley thing is a hit job - somone had this information for 3 YEARS and sat on it and the Republicans should go on the offensive to find that person or group. Not only were these person(s) playing a game of "gotcha"- they were putting more pages at risk.
Let's wait and see - I think we will find out the Rats involved and the whole thing will be exposed.
posted on 10/03/2006 5:15:23 AM PDT
It may not be a bad idea. Lets say he announces he is innocent but understands that some folks may doubt this. He steps aside as speaker while the investigation takes place, this defuses the rats, and he stands for re-election in Jan when he is cleared.
This act would stop the possible gains rats could make by ending the newscycle, return the news back to terrorism where we are strongest and raise the bar on ethics for a future rat speaker.
posted on 10/03/2006 5:26:30 AM PDT
10/02 11:25 PM
I thought we already had the House GOP shake-up when Tom DeLay was pushed from office and Roy Blunt lost the race for Majority Leader. Now we have to dump Dennis Hastert too? I remember when Newt Gingrich had to go, only to be replaced by Bob Livingston, but then he had to go, too. I remember when Trent Lott was pushed from office, replaced by Bill Frist. And then I heard rumblings about how Frist had to go because, well, he was ineffective. Meanwhile, the Democrats hang tough, through thick and thin. They slobber all over Bill Clinton, who actually had sex with a 19-year-old intern and abused his office and women left and right. William Jefferson, a Class-A crook, remains in office with no effort by his party to expel him because in a close election, Nancy Pelosi needs him. West Virginias Alan Mollohan has become wealthy in office, apparently helping to funnel money to his favorite causes. Sen. Bob Menendez apparently rented property to a nonprofit agency which he helped to receive federal funds. Cynthia McKinney assaulted a police officer, and she wasn't expelled. (The voters fired her.) John Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Abscam scandal, yet is now touted as the future House Democrat leader. And the media's favorite Republican, John McCain, was caught up in the Keating Five scandal. We have leakers, womanizers, boozers, and anti-Semites in Congress, not to mention Ted Kennedy. And I could go on and on.
Oh yes, I hear we conservatives are better than the liberals, and that we must hold ourselves to a higher standard. But throwing Republican leaders overboard to prove the point without sufficient information is no standard at all. It may make pundits more comfortable and may attract praise from unlikely circles, but it doesn't make us better than liberals. In fact, it doesn't make us better people, period. What we need is information. Most of us only learned about the Foley communications last Friday. Demanding Hasterts head tonight, as I said in an earlier post, is irresponsible. Among other things, we need to know who was aware of these three-year-old instant messages, only to make them public at a time of enormous help to the House Democrats. Clearly Foley wasnt the only one exploiting these teenagers.
Ive been around Washington too long to know that scandals of this sort dont just happen. Just ask Karl Rove and Lewis Libby. Three years later, most of us are appalled at the Fitzgerald investigation. But when Libby was indicted, many dismissed questions about the investigation as irrelevant to the charges.
-- Mark Levin, http://levin.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OWY1NzY0NzM2YjM0ZmY3OWU2MjBhYjFlZjcyN2RmNTQ=
posted on 10/03/2006 5:46:47 AM PDT
To: Taggart_D; All
We have an organized VIRAL PR CAMPAIGN HERE.
NOBODY IS asking why Pelosi sat on the INSTANT MESSAGES for THREE YEARS!
(emails said nothing, only instant messages had sex content)
REMEMBER FOLKS THE CLINTON WAR ROOM IS BACK UP AND RUNNING!
ALL THESE STORIES ARE BEING CENTRALLY PUSHED.
Dont forget Pedesta has a his DC think tank to push this VIRAL PR covert efforts. This is why we have trolls here who intentionally confuse instant messages with emails.
These are the people who would have replaced George Washington with Benedict Arnold.
posted on 10/03/2006 5:48:56 AM PDT
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
When it comes to Foley...so what.
He was a fool to resign.
He hasn't done anything that isn't encouraged in the common culture.
Pubbies are wimps. Why back down?
posted on 10/03/2006 6:22:09 AM PDT
(If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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