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Appeal on school's lesson in Muslim culture is rejected
San Francisco Cronicle ^ | October 3, 2006 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 10/03/2006 6:55:59 PM PDT by US Navy guy

The U.S. Supreme Court rejected an appeal Monday by evangelical Christian students and their parents who said a Contra Costa County school district engaged in unconstitutional religious indoctrination when it taught students about Islam by having them recite language from prayers.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: education; islam; muslims; publicschools; ussupremecourt; wakeupsmellthejihad; wherestheaclu
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1 posted on 10/03/2006 6:56:00 PM PDT by US Navy guy
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If I comment I will get banned again.


2 posted on 10/03/2006 6:56:34 PM PDT by US Navy guy
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To: US Navy guy

They will conquer us by terrorist acts or by rulings like this.


3 posted on 10/03/2006 6:59:58 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: US Navy guy

If I comment I will get banned again.

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BumP the sentiment.

Heard this on radio news a couple hours ago, incredible is all I can say..


4 posted on 10/03/2006 7:01:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: US Navy guy

I'll guess I'll be first to say it this time.

Time to homeschool.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 7:02:19 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: US Navy guy
Get your kids out of government(madrasses)schools.
6 posted on 10/03/2006 7:02:50 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Tired of Taxes; Clintonfatigued; neverdem

ping


7 posted on 10/03/2006 7:06:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: US Navy guy

The beginning of the end. Well, not really. Maybe the end of the end. You had to guess this was coming.


8 posted on 10/03/2006 7:07:36 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: US Navy guy

If I comment I will get banned again.

What I think of this, I'm not saying either.


9 posted on 10/03/2006 7:10:54 PM PDT by harveyrabbit
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The logical response is for another teacher to do EXACTLY as this first teacher did, but also divide the class into three sections so Muslims, Jews and Christians are all represented. That way three different sets of prayers and memorizations from the Koran, Torah and New Testament can all be a part of this class project. Then let's see what happens if someone tries to stop it in the courts.


10 posted on 10/03/2006 7:13:32 PM PDT by Socratic ( "Better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied" - J.S. Mill)
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To: metmom

And they did it without a comment. They figure that they don't even have to have a rationale for anything they do anymore. They are way above having to explain.

We live in a small town. If that were tried here, the teacher would be very sorry, and so would the school board.

The trouble with Contra Costa is that it is too big, and obviously run by arrogant bureaucrats.

I think that I would just take my kids for a vacation for the duration of this project.


11 posted on 10/03/2006 7:15:20 PM PDT by docbnj
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The hypocrisy sucks! Where's the ACLU now? Just another reason for home schooling.


12 posted on 10/03/2006 7:16:13 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: US Navy guy

So much for "our" "Conservative" "Supreme Court".


13 posted on 10/03/2006 7:17:55 PM PDT by US Navy guy
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To: Socratic

that is the point. if the SCOTUS strikes this down, then its also illegal for a school to have students portray Mary and Joseph, or Moses.

now that said - we all know the problem here - the schools are dominated by the left, and as such will screen out judeo-christian topics, but actively advance islamic ones. But I don't know what the court can really do about that - either this type of representation violates the separation of church and state, or it doesn't (as ruled). They can't render a decision that says it only violates separation if its about Islam.


14 posted on 10/03/2006 7:20:11 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: diverteach
It would seem that Islam gets a lot more respect in this country than Judaism, Christianity, or any other religion for that matter. It also seems that muslims are allowed to get away with discrimination, i.e. muslim cab drivers refusing passengers carrying liquor. No other citizen is allowed so many privileges. It is up to us to say enough is enough, but so far we seem unable to muster the will to do it.
15 posted on 10/03/2006 7:25:25 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: Socratic
The logical response is for another teacher to do EXACTLY as this first teacher did, but also divide the class into three sections so Muslims, Jews and Christians are all represented. That way three different sets of prayers and memorizations from the Koran, Torah and New Testament can all be a part of this class project. Then let's see what happens if someone tries to stop it in the courts.

That was the first thought that popped in my mind. Actually to just have Christian roles was my first thought but your proposal is perfect. By including all it is multi-denominational and much harder to attack. The libs on the court were content with their hypocrisy while the conservatives see this as a weapon against the ACLU's anti-christian slant. Granted that is somewhat of a rosy view but it would seem to be a fair read of the USSC's action.

16 posted on 10/03/2006 7:26:15 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Abortion: One Dead, One Wounded)
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To: Socratic

What about the Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans and Satanists? Should'nt they all have equal access? Zeus worshippers too!


17 posted on 10/03/2006 7:26:50 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: oceanview
They can't render a decision that says it only violates separation if its about Islam.

And conversely, they can't rule that educational topics can not be banned just because they touch upon religious themes if that religion happens to Islam. IOW, this has nothing to do with an establishment of religion, and separation issues don't even arise.

18 posted on 10/03/2006 7:26:53 PM PDT by Socratic ( "Better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied" - J.S. Mill)
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What about the Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans and Satanists? Should'nt they all have equal access? Zeus worshippers too!

If there were some educational reason for these topics to be touched upon, then why not include them?

19 posted on 10/03/2006 7:30:27 PM PDT by Socratic ( "Better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied" - J.S. Mill)
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What about the Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans and Satanists? Should'nt they all have equal access? Zeus worshippers too!

Exactly. Therefore if all (or most) are represented then soon the school boards will realize it is better to remove all such lessons that would involve multiple competing religions and get back to the basic indoctrination - anti-capitalism, global warming, radical feminism etc.

20 posted on 10/03/2006 7:44:11 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Abortion: One Dead, One Wounded)
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