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Cosmic Rays May solve Global Warming Problem
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10-4-2006 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 10/03/2006 8:57:31 PM PDT by blam

Cosmic rays may solve global warming problem

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 04/10/2006)

Cosmic events could help soften the impact of global warming by triggering cloud formations, suggests research published yesterday.

A team of Danish scientists concluded in the Proceedings of the Royal Society that making clouds is plausible, using the Sun's magnetic field.

The Sun has been at its strongest for more than 60 years and a period of high solar activity could be approaching its end. "This would produce a cooling effect that could counter part of the global warming predicted for the next century," said Dr Jens Olaf Pedersen, of the Danish National Space Centre.

advertisement When cosmic rays, high energy particles from distant exploding stars, fall to Earth they knock electrons off atoms in the atmosphere, making them electrically charged, or ionized. The ions form clusters of molecules that can grow into droplets forming low-lying clouds.

More cosmic rays would produce clouds that would increase the rate at which sunlight was reflected away from the planet and so cool it.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cosmic; global; may; problem; rays; solve; warming
"The Sun has been at its strongest for more than 60 years and a period of high solar activity could be approaching its end."

Hmmmm. Sun hotter = Earth hotter. Problem solved, it's a natural cycle.

1 posted on 10/03/2006 8:57:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The first rule of life: most problems solve themselves if you just get out of the way and let them.

Of course, it's very easy for a problem to fix itself when it doesn't exist.


2 posted on 10/03/2006 9:01:07 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (To thine own self be true...or relatively true. --Guy Caballero)
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To: blam

"expert": no, no, this finding doesn't agree with current Global Warming dogma and must therefore be wrong.


3 posted on 10/03/2006 9:03:27 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: blam

Quit your interference of the ALbore candidacy.


4 posted on 10/03/2006 9:05:53 PM PDT by petertare (!)
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To: blam

The Earth moves away from the Sun something like a half inch a year. Eventually Earth will be covered in ice.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 9:06:51 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: blam

I sense a Fantastic Four reference coming soon.

... Oh, wait.


6 posted on 10/03/2006 9:07:44 PM PDT by Terpfen (And in the second year, Nick Saban said "Let there be a franchise quarterback...")
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To: blam
Here is their thinking process:

1. Global warming is true.
2. We still can't find evidence of it.
3. We must find a way to explain this lack of evidence.
4. Cosmic rays. Create a theory involving cosmic rays.

7 posted on 10/03/2006 9:09:37 PM PDT by adam_smith_76
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To: Duke Nukum

Of course, it's very easy for a problem to fix itself when it doesn't exist.

Classic!!
8 posted on 10/03/2006 9:10:58 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: blam

A less active sun creates more cosmic rays, which create more clouds, which deflect heat? I am getting the dominos right here? The squib is rather delphic. One would think a more active sun would create more cosmic rays, not less.


9 posted on 10/03/2006 9:11:04 PM PDT by Torie
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To: blam

How much is big oil paying the sun?????


10 posted on 10/03/2006 9:11:14 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: adam_smith_76

There is evidence of global warming in the northern hemisphere. The rest is rather more speculative.


11 posted on 10/03/2006 9:12:14 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Terpfen

Darn I was too slow


12 posted on 10/03/2006 9:17:45 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: UNGN

One of the most often repeated ADM Rickover stories goes like this: Rickover was visiting the Idaho Falls Prototype, and a couple of enterprising students called his hotel room just before dawn and said, "Request permission to light off the sun, Admiral!" To which Rickover replied, "What is the lube oil temperature?" The students gave the correct answer for the minimum lube oil temperature for the main turbines, and Rickover said: "Permission granted, light off the sun!"


13 posted on 10/03/2006 9:18:59 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: blam

Bump for tomorrow. Sun is way hotter than just for 60 years.


14 posted on 10/03/2006 9:20:40 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: blam
" 'This would produce a cooling effect that could counter part of the global warming predicted for the next century,'said Dr Jens Olaf Pedersen, of the Danish National Space Centre."

Wrong answer, cancel his grant.

yitbos

15 posted on 10/03/2006 9:25:17 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: blam
Plus: Cosmic Rays give us cool super heroes.

16 posted on 10/03/2006 9:33:04 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: blam
This sixty year solar cycle is so significant that it has a demonstrable effect on commodity prices and stock markets. Due to scorn for astrology, modern science has a phobia about recognizing that space weather cycles have an influence on terrestial weather cycles.
17 posted on 10/03/2006 9:37:54 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: blam

So, basically there's a ton of variables and the scientists are all talking out of their hats when they try to predict the weather. Ok, I'll buy that.


18 posted on 10/03/2006 9:55:23 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: blam
It is becoming clearer as time goes on that the less competent (but loud) "scientists", and the politicians will be in for a lot of deserved schadenfreude for going off half-cocked.

Believing that they had the experience and intellect to grasp what is perhaps the most difficult scientific puzzle facing mankind: climate and all of its permutations, cycles and feedback loops.

A lot more relevant than the "big bang".

Guess the little boys didn't quite have the mental horsepower that they thought they did...

19 posted on 10/03/2006 10:16:04 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: blam; Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

blam: Thanks for the report.

If it is true that the Sun has "brightened" during the past 60 years, then the "Theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming" has lost still more of its "credibility", has it not?

ERF: "Ping"...

...and a follow-up question:

Do you acknowledge that the Medieval Warming Period and the Little Ice Age did, in fact, occur?


20 posted on 10/04/2006 5:05:18 AM PDT by pfony1
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Do you acknowledge that the Medieval Warming Period and the Little Ice Age did, in fact, occur?

Of course they occurred; at least an overwhelming amount of evidence points to the fact that they did.

Of course the warming and cooling experienced during those periods was between .5 and 1.5 degrees celcius. It also changed over a 3-400 year period. We have experienced the 1 degree celcius change in less than a century and are looking at up to 3 degrees over the next. As I have previusly mentioned, it might just be terrible timing that we are combining man-made influences with natural cycles to produce a much greater than natural change.

21 posted on 10/06/2006 1:34:23 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: blam

And this from a Danish source:

"An essential role for remote stars in everyday weather on Earth has been revealed by an experiment at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen."

"It is already well-established that when cosmic rays, which are high-speed atomic particles originating in exploded stars far away in the Milky Way, penetrate Earth’s atmosphere they produce substantial amounts of ions and release free electrons. Now, results from the Danish experiment show that the released electrons significantly promote the formation of building blocks for cloud condensation nuclei on which water vapour condenses to make clouds."

The complete article can be found here:

http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/physik_astronomie/bericht-71378.html


This makes a lot of sense when we consider what can be seen in a 'cloud chamber' experiment.


22 posted on 10/06/2006 5:05:30 AM PDT by Techster
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Check out post 22 and in particular this paragraph in the source link.

"Interestingly, during the 20th Century, the Sun’s magnetic field which shields Earth from cosmic rays more than doubled, thereby reducing the average influx of cosmic rays. The resulting reduction in cloudiness, especially of low-altitude clouds, may be a significant factor in the global warming Earth has undergone during the last century. However, until now, there has been no experimental evidence of how the causal mechanism linking cosmic rays and cloud formation may work."


23 posted on 10/06/2006 5:14:45 AM PDT by Techster
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