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Parents Charged With Abducting Bride
http://www.comcast.net ^ | 10 4 06 | DEBBIE HUMMEL

Posted on 10/04/2006 5:24:12 AM PDT by freepatriot32

SALT LAKE CITY - The parents of a bride-to-be told their daughter they were taking her on a shopping trip, but then drove to Colorado and kept her there until she missed the nuptials, officials said.

Lemuel and Julia Redd have been charged with second-degree felony kidnapping. Utah County Attorney Kay Bryson said Tuesday he met with the couple's daughter, Julianna, and her now-husband Perry Myers before charging the parents.

"I've never had a case quite like this," Bryson said. "It is strange that parents would go to that extent to keep an adult daughter from marrying the man that she had chosen to marry."

The Redds told their 21-year-old daughter they were taking her on a shopping trip Aug. 4 and then drove 240 miles from Provo to Grand Junction, Colo., according to Provo police Capt. Rick Healey. Myers, 23, called police when his bride didn't attend a pre-wedding dinner with his parents that night.

The Redds spent the night in Colorado and drove back to Provo, about 40 miles south of Salt Lake City, the next day, Healey said. They arrived after the young couple was supposed to have been married in a ceremony that day at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Temple in Salt Lake City.

The couple, both students at Brigham Young University, were married in the temple on Aug. 8, Myers said. They are expecting their first child in May.

The Redds didn't want their daughter to get married, but the bride has been reluctant to say what happened on the drive. Myers said he and his wife were not discussing details of the car ride but said her parents' objections were not about him.

"It really has nothing to do a lot with me. It really is some issues with the family," he said.

Bryson said after reviewing the police investigation it was clear a crime was committed. Charges were filed Friday.

Lemuel, 59, and Julia Redd, 56, are scheduled to make an initial court appearance Oct. 26. If convicted, the Redds could face one to 15 years in prison.

A call made to a listing for Lemuel H. Redd at the address in Monticello, Utah, listed in court documents went unanswered Tuesday. No attorney for the Redds is listed in court documents and it couldn't immediately be determined if they had legal representation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: abducting; bride; charged; kidnapping; parents; saltlakecity; utah; wedding
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1 posted on 10/04/2006 5:24:13 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32

The happy couple.

2 posted on 10/04/2006 5:28:47 AM PDT by csvset (Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil & inhumane)
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To: freepatriot32

>>>"It really has nothing to do a lot with me. It really is some issues with the family," he said. >>>

Yeahhhh, sure buddy.

Now there are loony parents out there, but I'll bet this guy is a REAL loser and her parents felt they were protecting her. Unfortunately, you just legally can't prevent some children from making incredibly stupid decisions.


3 posted on 10/04/2006 5:29:59 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: csvset

This guy just may have a great life. The lovely young lady places her hand in a very nice place for photos.


4 posted on 10/04/2006 5:30:49 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: sandbar

He is close to her in age, both college students, so what's the beef? She apparently is pregnant by him, also. This being in Utah, I wonder if polygamy is somehow involved, say that the parents wanted her to be someone's plural wife.


5 posted on 10/04/2006 5:42:07 AM PDT by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: freepatriot32

Should make for some interesting family get-togethers...


6 posted on 10/04/2006 5:43:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: sandbar

It looks like he's quite a bit older than she is. On the other hand Mr. Fairview is quite a bit older than I am, and we have gotten along fine for many years.


7 posted on 10/04/2006 5:44:09 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: Fairview

>>>It looks like he's quite a bit older than she is. On the other hand Mr. Fairview is quite a bit older than I am, and we have gotten along fine for many years.>>>

She's 21, he's 23. Pretty close.

But I'll bet there are other reasons, unless it's religious. I have known a few Jehovahs Witnesses who would do this to avoid their child being excommunicated or whatever they call it for marrying outside the religion.


8 posted on 10/04/2006 5:46:29 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Fairview

He's 23, she's 21.


9 posted on 10/04/2006 5:47:01 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: sportutegrl
He is close to her in age, both college students, so what's the beef? She apparently is pregnant by him, also. This being in Utah, I wonder if polygamy is somehow involved, say that the parents wanted her to be someone's plural wife.

Thats what I'm thinking, or perhaps the parents are just loons

10 posted on 10/04/2006 5:47:58 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: freepatriot32

That's going to make Thanksgiving dinner a bit awkward.


11 posted on 10/04/2006 5:48:36 AM PDT by steve-b (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.)
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To: freepatriot32

Runaway parents-of-the-bride!


12 posted on 10/04/2006 5:53:45 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: freepatriot32

So, I imagine Thanksgiving and Christmas will be at HIS parent's home.


13 posted on 10/04/2006 5:54:44 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: sportutegrl
This being in Utah, I wonder if polygamy is somehow involved, say that the parents wanted her to be someone's plural wife.

Oh good grief.

read the story. It says they got married in the SLC Temple - that's the real Mormon Church - not the breakaway that practices polygamy.

14 posted on 10/04/2006 6:03:32 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: freepatriot32

They crossed a State line. It looks like they are just facing charges in Utah, but they could be charged in Colorado and in Federal court too, I think.

I bet it will be fun for the bride to explain to her children why Grandpa and Grandma live in prison...


15 posted on 10/04/2006 6:05:19 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (The Solution to the GOP's Problems Isn't More Democrats!!!)
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To: sportutegrl

POLYGAMY???


16 posted on 10/04/2006 6:05:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: sandbar

"I'll bet this guy is a REAL loser and her parents felt they were protecting her."

Sure. The concept of a completely disfunctional family isn't even on the radar.


17 posted on 10/04/2006 6:06:19 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: sandbar
I have known a few Jehovahs Witnesses who would do this to avoid their child being excommunicated or whatever they call it for marrying outside the religion.

If they got married in the Temple - as the story says - they are both LDS

(thinking to self: Egad. what a lot of ignorance there still is about the Mormon Church.)

A couple notes, folks: The Mormon Church does not practice or allow polygamy and only church members can marry in the Temple

18 posted on 10/04/2006 6:09:13 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
The Mormon Church does not practice or allow polygamy and only church members can marry in the Temple

I was going to point that out but I see its been covered. Lots of ignorance about the Mormon church out there. Reminds me of the total ignorance about the Church of Christ when the Mary Winkler case was being discussed. By the way, in case anybody wondered what happened to Mrs. Winkler, she is living in McMinnville again, with some woman in town. She has a job at the local dry cleaners. She just wants to "get on with her life". I think she has forgotten one little incident in her life.

19 posted on 10/04/2006 6:16:19 AM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for President Bush and our country.)
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To: freepatriot32

Im probably the one and only case anyone has heard of where me, a nice guy with a head on his shoulders, not ugly (average looking) and with a career was flatly told my future wife's father said "No." when I asked permission to take his daughter's hand in marriage.

It really wasnt about me, it was about his inability to let go of his daughter.

The guy loves me like his son and regrets his actions. I joke with him now and he accepts the brunt.


20 posted on 10/04/2006 6:17:52 AM PDT by smith288
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To: sandbar

I wish I had kidnapped my son to keep him from marrying the scumbag he got.


21 posted on 10/04/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002

You know--I have learned that however hard you try to raise your children in the right way, when they are grown, you have no sway over who they bring into the family.


22 posted on 10/04/2006 6:41:52 AM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: maine-iac7

Maybe the groom was the real Mormon, but the bride's family was one of those polygamy followers?


23 posted on 10/04/2006 6:45:32 AM PDT by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: sportutegrl
Maybe the parents were upset that they couldn't attend the wedding.

If you aren't a member you can't go into the temple.
Cause you aren't good enough.
Thats really insulting.

If my child was getting married and I was barred from the ceremony, I'd be ticked too.
24 posted on 10/04/2006 7:02:27 AM PDT by JRochelle (You can believe what you want, but you can't have your own facts!)
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To: csvset

Pinky-teasing in front of a news camera? I guess that's one way to get her revenge.

25 posted on 10/04/2006 7:05:41 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: sgtbono2002

>>>I wish I had kidnapped my son to keep him from marrying the scumbag he got.>>>

Yeah, I'm not real happy with my son's choice either. I have a feeling when he's out of college, he will propose. I only hope her true colors shows itself to him before then. My husband and I think she is a witch in disguise.


26 posted on 10/04/2006 7:28:31 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar

Mothers-in-law.


27 posted on 10/04/2006 7:33:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: sportutegrl
More likely someone else is the father of the child.

If my parents had pulled this stunt on me - and if they did in what they believe was in my best interest, right or not - I sure would not have filed felony charges against them but handled it as a family matter.

28 posted on 10/04/2006 7:36:26 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: beckysueb
Reminds me of the total ignorance about the Church of Christ when the Mary Winkler case was being discussed.

I was thinking the same thing!

BTW, it's a disgrace that she is out of jail! The double standard is appalling.

29 posted on 10/04/2006 7:44:15 AM PDT by jan in Colorado ("Show me what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: JRochelle
Maybe the parents were upset that they couldn't attend the wedding. If you aren't a member you can't go into the temple. Cause you aren't good enough. Thats really insulting.

It has nothing to do with being "good enough". However, it is, understandably, a difficult and sensitive thing when some family members are LDS and some aren't.

As difficult as the situation is, there are some things that can alleviate some of the pain:

  1. Non-Mormons can (and should, IMO) tour the inside of a newly-constructed temple before it is dedicated.
  2. There are pictures available of the interior of many temples that have been dedicated, so one may know what it looks like inside.
  3. The actual ceremony is very simple and short, compared to most marriage ceremonies outside the temple. IOW, you aren't missing much of a show or anything.
  4. Most couples will hold a reception in a regular church building, where anyone may attend, where most of the "pomp and circumstance" can still take place.
I realize none of those entirely take away the hurt feelings, etc., but I think they do help in many cases.
30 posted on 10/04/2006 7:45:31 AM PDT by TChris (The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>>Mothers-in-law.>>>

HUH? Who, me?


31 posted on 10/04/2006 7:49:11 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: maine-iac7

I admit I don't know that much about it, so perhaps you can clear up a question for me.

I know a lot of genealogical work is done in the Mormon Church, but people have told me that when a Mormon marries someone with other religious faiths in their family, they go back and "convert" the other family members after the fact.

This can't be true; it would be unbearably arrogant to do so. Right?


32 posted on 10/04/2006 7:50:37 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: sgtbono2002

Very sad. Is he still married to her? Do you have children that are half-normal, half bags of scum?


33 posted on 10/04/2006 7:51:38 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: sandbar

Classic mothers-in-law. Classic.


34 posted on 10/04/2006 7:53:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: JRochelle

I agree. That's disgusting. If it is true, no wonder people think of Mormonism as a cult. That is cult-style behavior.


35 posted on 10/04/2006 7:53:32 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Dante3

Ahem, it's the state that filed the charges, not the daughter.


36 posted on 10/04/2006 7:54:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: TChris

And since pictures are permitted, can't the ceremony be televised?


37 posted on 10/04/2006 7:55:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: linda_22003
They do something called baptism for the dead.

So if anyone wants to save their ancestors' souls they have some kind of ceremony.

Yes it is really arrogant. I read somewhere on FR that they even baptized the Pope after he died.
38 posted on 10/04/2006 8:00:00 AM PDT by JRochelle (You can believe what you want, but you can't have your own facts!)
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To: Dante3

"More likely someone else is the father of the child."

Why would her parents care about that? If thats the case they should be overjoyed she found a guy to marry her and help raise her child. I find that unlikely though. She would be due in March or April if she had become pregnant before the wedding. If she is due in May, like they say, then there is no way she, or anyone, could have even known she was pregnant in early Aug., late July, assuming she was.


39 posted on 10/04/2006 8:00:02 AM PDT by monday
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>>Classic mothers-in-law. Classic.>>>

Maybe. But dear God and help us all if this little girl pretending to be a grown up becomes a part of our family. And my husband feels the same way, so is he classic too? I defended her, because I fell for her sweetness until I realized my children (5,9 & 10) were not lying when they said she was mean to them when we weren't around. I walked in on it one day and a cousin said when I was out of earshot she said something REALLY mean and hateful to my oldest and almost tore her up there and then. But I know if I try to convince my son she is anything but sweet and innocent with batting eyelashes, he'll run to her even faster. Or she'll alienate him and we won't have him.

So time will tell and when he figures it out, we'll be there for him.


40 posted on 10/04/2006 8:00:36 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And since pictures are permitted, can't the ceremony be televised?

Pictures of the building and furniture, etc, are permitted. Pictures or recordings of people and ceremonies inside the temple are not.

41 posted on 10/04/2006 8:00:48 AM PDT by TChris (The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Say, don't I know you?


42 posted on 10/04/2006 8:01:18 AM PDT by esquirette (Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.)
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To: JRochelle

"Save their ancestors' souls?" That's beyond arrogant.


43 posted on 10/04/2006 8:01:35 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: sandbar

There's a reason for "leave and cleave" in the Bible, and "for better, for worse" in the marriage vows.


44 posted on 10/04/2006 8:02:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: JRochelle

Just empty gestures.


45 posted on 10/04/2006 8:03:22 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: monday
That could well be. I was simply pondering a possible motive.

This reminds me of an interview with the late Carrol O'Connor who said that parents should come between their child and anyone trying to harm him no matter what the age. Of course, he had a legitimate cause regarding his son. Here I don't know.

46 posted on 10/04/2006 8:24:08 AM PDT by Dante3
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"Pictures of the building and furniture, etc, are permitted. Pictures or recordings of people and ceremonies inside the temple are not."

Thats strange. Are Mormons and LDS the same? I have seen a televised tour of the Mormon Tabernacle, where they dropped a pin and you could hear it everywhere in the building, and also discussed how all but a couple of the pipes visible on the pipe organ were fake. There was also footage of the Choir singing. Is the Mormon Tabernacle not the same as a temple?
47 posted on 10/04/2006 8:57:05 AM PDT by monday
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To: linda_22003
This can't be true;

and it isn't

The work can only be done for ancestors WAY back - and even then, is only as an offering, as it were.

As Mormons, (Latter Day Saints) believe in Jesus and that everyone continues to live after 'death' = they believe that those ancestors who have passed over - still retain God's greatest gift, Free Will, and they can then accept or reject the offering...

48 posted on 10/04/2006 9:00:23 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7

That's very complicated; you wonder why they bother.


49 posted on 10/04/2006 9:03:34 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: freepatriot32
Ummm...I'd like to change my story. My parents kidnapped me. I'm a victim doncha know?


50 posted on 10/04/2006 9:04:39 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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