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Finally, a Republican scandal that may stick (Barf Alert)
NY Daily News ^ | October 3, 2006 | Lenore Skenazy

Posted on 10/04/2006 11:02:15 AM PDT by lowbridge

Finally, a Republican scandal that may stick

Usually when the Republican chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children instant-messages an underage boy and asks him to get out a ruler to measure his...

Well. Ahem. Let's just say: Usually when a congressman is involved in a scandal, he doesn't bring the whole party down with him. This time could be different.

The Mark Foley affair is so simple and so human, it's like a Cliffs.Notes version of all the other Republican scandals:

Rampant corruption.

Leadership? Ha.

No one cares till the klieg lights get turned on.

THE END.

P. S. Hope the public forgets!

Except this time, we won't. Foley's folly has - forgive me - exposed the Republicans as the party that really doesn't care about all the things it says it does: mom, apple pie, morals. All it cares about is staying in power.

Were that not its basic motivator, it wouldn't find itself in the position it is in today, roundly condemning the very behavior it was happy to ignore until it bit 'em (and God knows who else) in the behind.

To recap: It was almost a year ago that the top GOPers in the House were told that Foley had sent an "overly friendly" e-mail to a House page. What does "overly friendly" mean?

Overly CREEPY. Duh! Especially when Mr. Friendly himself is an unmarried congressman with a well-documented fondness for underage manhood.

Now, if YOU knew all this, would you quietly ask the potential predator to lay off and then hope for the best? And - just asking - if you knew your neighbor was an ice-pick enthusiast, would you quietly ask him to please not hang around the playground and then hope for the best?

OF COURSE NOT! But House Speaker Dennis Hastert and his minions kept mum, fearing scandal. How appropriate that in the process they created the one that may do them in.

Until now, the (many) Republican scandals have been way too complicated to stay on the national radar. Tom DeLay allegedly laundered money. Terrible! But who remembers for whom? How much? It's murky.

So are all those scandals involving lobbyist Jack Abram.off, even though it was mostly Republican congressmen who took "Casino Jack's" cash (this from the party that fancies itself our guardian of virtue). And then there was Duke Cunningham (R-Calif.). He's serving time for some bribery scandal. And Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) sold a bunch of stock right before its price tanked. Suspicious? Yes. Compelling? No.

The problem is: When congressional crimes involve balance sheets and a tedious paper trail, we tend to fade out. With fading comes forgetting and even unintentional forgiveness.

But failing to protect young people from a potential predator even while claiming to be the party of family values?

That's as clear as the pants around your ankles. And perhaps the final comeuppance for a party with so much moral posturing, and so little moral fiber.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006election; barfalert; bullzogby; bushhassers; corruption; democrats; dennishastert; dirtypolitics; election2006; foley; goebbelswouldbeproud; hastert; howtostealanelection; makingitup; markfoley; mediabias; rattricks; republicans; thebiglie; usefulidiots; yellowjournalism; zogbyism

1 posted on 10/04/2006 11:02:17 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Think the house will object to the FBI searching Foley's computers, like they did with Jefferson?


2 posted on 10/04/2006 11:02:59 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lowbridge
Dream on Leftist clowns. This Foley crap is nothing but nonsense and noise. He resigned. He is under investigation. He will be prosecuted. Meanwhile the REAL important stuff is not being talked about so the Junk Media drama queens can hyperventilate about a complete NON issue and divert attention off the Democrats complete lack of anything that even looks like a sane idea of a plan for our future.

You tax bill, the War on Terrorism, the Border, your kids future, NSA bill pending in front of Congress, Judges, Spending, Jobs and the Economy, ALL the real issues that the next Congress will have to deal with will STILL be here and need a resolution a month from now when NO one even remembers Foley's name.

3 posted on 10/04/2006 11:03:16 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: lowbridge

Finally: The democrats have found something they consider reprehensible and immoral - sexually explicit text messages.


4 posted on 10/04/2006 11:03:49 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: lowbridge
Why is this a Republican scandal? After all, Foley is a Democrat.


5 posted on 10/04/2006 11:04:31 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What did Nancy Pelosi know about these explicit text messages, and when did she know it? You don't "protect the children" by witholding criminal evidence for over a year, then release it six weeks before the elections.


6 posted on 10/04/2006 11:04:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

LOL!


7 posted on 10/04/2006 11:04:58 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: lowbridge

LOL. I don't know about you guys; but I am sick and tired of our elected officials acting like children.


8 posted on 10/04/2006 11:05:55 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: lowbridge

A guy name Tom Foley wouldn't kill my children, but a guy name Al Queda would.
bump


9 posted on 10/04/2006 11:06:18 AM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace!)
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To: lowbridge
Ah, the Commie-Vampires encouraging a vote for the Anit-American Dems.

Real American's vote for those who protect and love their country.
10 posted on 10/04/2006 11:06:28 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: lowbridge
Except this time, we won't. Foley's folly has - forgive me - exposed the Republicans as the party that really doesn't care about all the things it says it does: mom, apple pie, morals. All it cares about is staying in power.

Translation: This is the media's interpretation of this "scandal" and we're going to keep harping on it until we've brainwashed you all into believing it.

By the way LENORE, are the Democrats not about what they claim to be, protecting children and fighting corruption when they allow William Jefferson and Rep. Mollohan to continue to serve in Congress despite taking bribes, and when they allowed Gerry Studds to continue to serve for another 18 years after actually having sex with an underage page as opposed to just dirty talk and even gave Studds a standing O on the floor of the House when he left? Oh, but you don't want to talk about that do you, you dishonest, deceit-drenched bitch. The headline is all you need to know about the biases of the idiot who wrote this.

11 posted on 10/04/2006 11:06:30 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

do you think the dems would object if Foley moved to MA to marry the page?


12 posted on 10/04/2006 11:07:10 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: VRWCmember
Finally: The democrats have found something they consider reprehensible and immoral - sexually explicit text messages.

If Foley would of had consentual sex, Democrats would of had to defended him. Of course Foley should just say he was implimenting Joycelyn Elders' masterbation for youth program.

13 posted on 10/04/2006 11:07:35 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: lowbridge

"Finally....." In other words: "We've had dozens and dozens of Dem scandals that stuck and now it looks like we may have one tiny Republican scandal that will stick."


14 posted on 10/04/2006 11:10:14 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Excellence

You mean MARK Foley?

(I made the same mistake the other day-Tom Foley was the unrelated 'D' House Speaker from Washington State)


15 posted on 10/04/2006 11:12:11 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: lowbridge

Foley was the one who requested that the FBI investigate. Actually, the FBI was brought in when the orignal emails were reported, but the FBI declined to open a full investigation.


16 posted on 10/04/2006 11:12:52 AM PDT by Eva
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To: lowbridge

Sorry, its not going to happen.

The war is the issue. Republicans will live or die by that issue, and so will Democrats, for better or for worse.

The Dems would be better off fighting on that issue. Throwing mud just makes them look small, not ready for prime time. In that sense, their gotcha brand of non-journalism redounds to our favor. The biggest problem is that if their inches of newsprint have been filled with this kind of thing, there isn't much newsprint left to talk about the war, the economy, or anything else.

But beyond that, its a non-story. If anything, it helps to clarify the lines between the parties. If you vote Dem, you're already pretty much OK with the gay agenda. Foley's fall is a delicious irony for you to enjoy, but you weren't going to vote Repub in any case. If you do vote Repub, with rare exceptions you don't support any of that kind of moral degeneracy, and you will pull for the party that would force Foley out, not the party that would defend him for the next 18 years if he were one of their own.


17 posted on 10/04/2006 11:19:23 AM PDT by marron
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To: lowbridge

Don't fold. Two weeks from now this will be dead in the water. I'm glad the rat thinks he can keep a story about a queer congressman alive for five weeks. Don't fold. We stick together and we win. We are the adults and if we let the children take over America will be in real danger. It's all up to us. Don't fold.



The people in foley's district will vote for Negron and we will hold that seat. If it doesn't stick there it won't change many minds elsewhere. The rat's problem is that more and more voters use the internet and know what is happening. Don't fold.


18 posted on 10/04/2006 11:20:57 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (DON'T BELIEVE PESSIMISM: FEELINGS ARE FOR LOVE SONGS. FACTS ARE FOR PREDICTING WHO WINS IN NOV)
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To: lowbridge

Lenore Skenazy is a columnist and features reporter for the New York Daily News. She previously worked for NPR and Mad Magazine.

19 posted on 10/04/2006 11:30:42 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: All

See my tagline.


20 posted on 10/04/2006 11:41:45 AM PDT by Sister_T (The Foley scandal will NEVER get me to vote for "cut-and-run", hypocritical DemocRATs!)
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To: lowbridge
I am trying to save all the quotes from progressive sources that are 100% in support of the BSA to not have homosexual scoutmasters. A week ago I had zero...today my hard drive runneth over.
21 posted on 10/04/2006 11:51:36 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: lowbridge
Except this time, we won't. Foley's folly has - forgive me - exposed the Republicans as the party that really doesn't care about all the things it says it does: mom, apple pie, morals. All it cares about is staying in power.

Projection

Republicans whose personal sex-related scandalous behavior was exposed who resigned or did not run for reelection: Mark Foley (Congress - 2006), Bob Livingston (Congress/Speaker of the House Designate - 1998), Bob Packwood (Senate - 1995).

Republicans who lost subsequent reelection races or who ended political campaigns when personal sex-related scandalous behavior was exposed: Thomas Evans (Congress - 1982, lost in 1982); Bill Crane (Congress - 1983, lost in 1984); Jack Ryan (IL Gubernatorial Candidate - 2004, dropped out).

Republicans whose political careers survived personal sex-related scandalous behavior: NONE.

Democrats whose personal sex-related scandalous behavior was exposed who resigned or did not run for reelection: Wayne Hays (Congress - 1976); Wilbur Mills (mid-1970s, forced out of Way and Means Committee chairmanship, but was re-elected by voters after scandal exposed; did not run for re-election after "relapse"). (Aside: The WaPo article gives the casual reader the impression tha Mills resigned from office, but he never did. He only resigned from Ways and Means.)

Democrats who lost subsequent reelection race or who ended political campaigns when personal sex-related scandalous behavior was exposed: Gary Condit (Congress - 2002, but more because of his possible association with Chandra Levy's murder than the affair he may have had with her); Gary Hart (1988, but ONLY AFTER being rejected by New Hampshire primary voters).

Democrats whose political careers were uninterrupted despite personal sex-related scandalous behavior being exposed: Gary Studds (Congress - 1983; served until retirement in 1996); Barney Frank (Congress - 1985; still in Congress); Jim Bates (Congress - early 1990s; re-elected once); Bill Clinton (President - 1998-1999; despite impeachment for lying under oath and obstruction of justice, completed second presidential term).

http://newsbusters.org/node/8068

22 posted on 10/04/2006 12:08:00 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: lowbridge

BREAKING:

Republican caught acting like a Democrat!


23 posted on 10/04/2006 12:20:15 PM PDT by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: kcvl

She writes possibly the worst column there is. However, to its credit there is a great picture of Fergie from Black Eyed Peas the NYDN.


24 posted on 10/04/2006 12:26:14 PM PDT by massgopguy ((I owe everything to George Bailey))
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To: SmithL
Republican caught acting like a Democrat!

He must've gotten hold of some bad acid.

25 posted on 10/04/2006 12:32:52 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude PING
26 posted on 10/04/2006 12:38:44 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: MNJohnnie

Don't forget about the big "I", Impeachment. The Rats will push for it in 2007 if they win and this witchhunt should make it clear.


27 posted on 10/04/2006 12:40:53 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: lowbridge

A stupid liberal writes something stupid.


28 posted on 10/04/2006 12:41:01 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: kcvl

Went to look up her bio online (to check about the Mad Magazine thing, that magazine is publishing Ted Rall now!).

Found this, her previous idiotorial:

RELEASE: SUNDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2006 "EXTREME ELMO MAKES ME SEE RED"

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Does she also write the Ed Anger column for The Weekly World News? I read about someone who met the writer once and said that (s)he was really a lib and just had fun writing from the perspective of an "angry right winger".

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/columnists/61644


29 posted on 10/04/2006 12:48:18 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: kcvl; Revolting cat!; PJ-Comix

I see the Mad Magazine credit is in her bio, but can't find anything from Mad Magazine in a google search.

Bill Gaines would be spinning in his grave (or rising from it like in his old EC comics) if he knew what had happened to Mad. Partisan politics, corporate advertising. Stick a fork in it.


30 posted on 10/04/2006 12:51:33 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: lowbridge

I'm still waiting to hear from Bawney Fwank on the Foley affair...


31 posted on 10/04/2006 1:05:30 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Yes it is so! He ran as Democrat in Florida before he "came out" as Republican.


32 posted on 10/04/2006 1:18:41 PM PDT by Nickey (Loose Lips Sink Ships.)
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To: lowbridge

Democrats are like a pack of yapping little dogs. It doesn't matter what Republicans do here come these yapping little dogs. If others are like me you begin to expect it so it loses the desired response.

Also, Instead of scorecards on how many perverts we have on each side, I'd like to see bi-partisan efforts to clean Congress on both sides.


33 posted on 10/04/2006 1:39:39 PM PDT by Recall
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To: lowbridge

Somebody needs to get Hastert -OFF- the air. He keeps getting on Boortz and Rush stuttering that he's "got a good story to tell."

BFD, Denny! Tell us about how your hands were tied because if you had done anything to Foley you would have been guilty of a hate crime according to Federal Law.

Tell us about how this is the kind of society progressives want us to have. Homosexual adoption and gay marriage, but no 15 yr olds learning about govt in the United States Congress because there's too many gay congressmen?

Tell us that THIS is exactly the reason we can't have Democrats running the country.

No. Just mumble about how you don't think you should resign because you have a good story.


34 posted on 10/04/2006 1:50:15 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: lowbridge

The scandal is already falling appart.

Now that the message has gone out that emails are not instant messages and Alexander has already corrected his confusion.

The only people pushing the idea that an email is an instant message is CNN and NBC and Novak. There rest are just parroting the others.

In the end this makes ALL homosexuals who are on staff a liability and have to be removed. This is now backlashing.


35 posted on 10/04/2006 1:53:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lowbridge

Barney Frank??


36 posted on 10/04/2006 1:54:06 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: sam_paine

Man, what you said. BUMP! Hastert is pathetic. Whiny, almost, because the dinosuar newsrooms are pumping up this Foley scandal on behalf of their party instead of talking about all the great accomplishments of the Republican Congress.

What a friggin' moron.


37 posted on 10/04/2006 1:54:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: longtermmemmory

The Foley scandal isn't "falling apart". It's just festering for now.

Here's the way these things go: The Foley scandal will continue to dominate the news cycle until it becomes old and tiresome to the very short attention span of a fairly jaded general public. About the time the scandal has finally played itself out (a week? two?) another big story/scandal will enter the picture. A better one. This new story (whatever it is) will be controlled by the Republicans, and it will directly utilize the Foley scandal, jujitsu-style, to propel itself.

A Florida congressman named Mark Foley - - one of 435 congressmen - - will be quickly forgotten.

Mark it down.


38 posted on 10/04/2006 2:09:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: lowbridge
When the dust settles, I think the Foley fallout will hurt the Democrats more than the Republicans. Why? Because the Democrats have a long and sordid history of protecting, reelecting, and even lionizing Democrat politicians with zipper problems.

For my reasons why, click below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "Sex, Politics, and Hypocrisy"

Please see my most recent new statement on running for Congress, here.

39 posted on 10/04/2006 2:33:09 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Have a look-see. Please get involved.)
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To: lowbridge
This approach is so classic it's trite by now. Note that the real sin in the eyes of Ms. Liberal isn't anything that anyone actually did, it's hypocrisy. That is the single avenue of approach that allows her to scold the other side for doing things that are common practice on her own. In short, a little buggery is just fine as long as you espouse it openly but it's reprehensible if you're nominally in opposition to it.

The upshot of this is that it enables the practicioner to hold others to standards different from the one he or she (in this case) follows. "Special rules for special people," meaning "any rule I like for you and none at all for me." It's a convenient little scam if the other fellow is gullible enough to buy it.

40 posted on 10/04/2006 2:58:30 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RockinRight

Yep. The thing's too new, and I haven't got everybody sorted out. But I still have more fear of Al.


41 posted on 10/04/2006 7:26:21 PM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace!)
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To: lowbridge

SO why don't you mail ol' Leonore Sleazy that info?


42 posted on 10/04/2006 8:20:50 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (MSNBC-Moronic Slimy Numbskulled Bolshevik Communists)
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To: Jacob Kell

Let the Bi...er, the nice lady wallow in her own ignorance.


43 posted on 10/05/2006 10:53:45 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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