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Homework, Part I - The Worst Job in the World
The Ornery American ^ | Sept. 17, 2006 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 10/05/2006 2:02:08 AM PDT by Mr170IQ

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Some good observations for your perusal.
1 posted on 10/05/2006 2:02:10 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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Lets see how the Asian and Jewish kids perform, versus the rest of the kids who play and watch TV all day long....Let's compare their family culture vs. the rest.


2 posted on 10/05/2006 2:32:36 AM PDT by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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I didn't realize that the science fair used to optional. I always detested being required to put together some piece of junk that I knew wouldn't win anything and frankly didn't want to win because then it was on to the next level and "improving" the project.

I think that there is a place for homework, particularly writing research papers when kids get older or working on rote things like multiplication, or even studying for tests.

However, I agree about questioning the value of building a model space shuttle when teaching physics. Like Card, I question the value of any art project as an assignment unless it's related to art class (which I hated even more than the science fair).


3 posted on 10/05/2006 2:38:29 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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Well, the schools in other countries [and I am talking civilized countries - say, Japan] apply homework way more liberally than the schools in the US. If there have been mass complaints about the lousy education Japanese schools provide, the complaints must have been made in Japanese, which I do not read, for I've completely missed them. But we have some resident FReepers with the necessary linguistic background, and maybe they could help.
4 posted on 10/05/2006 2:41:01 AM PDT by GSlob
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Sounds like someone's due for a ride in the waaaahmbulance.


5 posted on 10/05/2006 3:30:26 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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By and large government schools are a expensive, slow, low quality experience. Perfect for producing mass dislike of thinking in an supine and doltish population. Smooth running socialism requires uniformity in thought and action.


6 posted on 10/05/2006 3:54:35 AM PDT by Leisler (Read the Koran, real Islam is not peaceful.)
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This article makes some good points, but I would look at it from the opposite direction. The problem with "education" today is not that kids have too much homework -- it's that they spend too much time in a classroom.

Homework in and of itself is not a terrible thing, but I do think it needs to be structured differently. To me, time spent at home doing school-related work is more useful if a student is reading material before it is taught in class -- not doing large quantities of (often senseless) work afterwards.

7 posted on 10/05/2006 4:05:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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If there have been mass complaints about the lousy education Japanese schools provide, the complaints must have been made in Japanese, which I do not read, for I've completely missed them.

I have a relative who is one of the most highly-respected members of his profession (in a scientific field), and he's studied foreign education programs extensively over the years as part of his work. His views on the Japanese education model are quite scathing. It's not too ridiculous to suggest that he would have sent his kids to school in Baghdad before he ever let them attend a Japanese school.

8 posted on 10/05/2006 4:10:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Jack Hammer

It has been more than a couple of decades since I was in high school. Earlier this year my wife and I had our first child, a total gem of a little girl.

The idea that schools will torture her with hours of homework EVERY SINGLE NIGHT is something that I can't stand.

My idea of a fair nightly homework assignment falls along the lines of "Read chapters 4 and 5, and be prepared to discuss them in class" or even "Read the chapters and write up two or three questions about the material that will be asked and discussed in class"

I do not intend to send my little girl to a public school, but I can only hope to find a place where her mind will be nurtured adequately.

One of the blogs I follow had a similar observation:
http://www.ttgnet.com/daynotes/2006/2006-35.html#Tue

I question the sanity of our school system officials. A 13-year-old girl shouldn't have to do what Jasmine is doing. She gets up at 5:00 a.m. to shower, dress, grab a quick bite, and head out to meet her school bus at 5:45. When she gets home from school, she immediately starts on her homework, which she works on straight through with only a short break for dinner until 10:00 or 11:00 p.m. most nights, and sometimes until midnight. Then it's to bed for a few hours sleep and the same thing all over again, five days a week. She also has gymnastics three evenings a week, which she isn't willing to give up. Her weekends aren't free, either. She has projects to do for school.

This just isn't right. School requirements are leaving her no time to be a kid. They're also leaving her no time to sleep. A 13-year-old girl needs at least nine hours of sleep a night. She gets five or six, seven if she's lucky. Jasmine was working on her science homework when I arrived yesterday. I tried to help her with it, but it was clear that she was dead on her feet. She wasn't tracking what I was saying. The kid was exhausted, as I would have been if I'd risen at 5:00 a.m., worked hard all day, and knew that I faced several more hours of hard work before I could sleep.

All of this is the predictable and predicted result of the No Child Left Behind Act. Schools are no longer interested in helping children to learn. They can't afford to be. The federal carrot and stick means that schools now teach children to score as high as possible on standardized tests, which is a very different thing from real learning. A school is supposed to be a log, with a teacher sitting on one end and a student on the other.


9 posted on 10/05/2006 4:17:10 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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Homework wouldn't be so bad if the kids still had recesses and P.E. every day. Every Fall I would send my son to school a bright shiny happy boy, then after 9 months of 9-10 hours a day of sitting still I would get him back in the early Summer barely alive. He would just drag himself home those last few weeks of school.

My son used to read books like others breathe air. Then in third grade he was assigned 20 minutes a day of reading at home and then that's all he ever did.

I don't really know what they are doing in school. I would have to teach (or re-teach) every subject just for him to finish his homework. My kid is a bright boy; I pictured him dazed, looking out the window all day.

10 posted on 10/05/2006 4:18:25 AM PDT by cobaltblu
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I remember reading something by Charles Schultz - the creater of Peanuts. His daughter had to do an art project in which she got a C. His question - which turned a light bulb on in my head - was how could you give a kid a C on something that subjective. Good art - like anything else - takes talent and some have it and some do not. I can see giving someone a C if they take an art test - discussing types of art, artists, paintings - concrete information like that. However, when assigning an art project everyone should get an A if that is the best they could do.
11 posted on 10/05/2006 4:21:10 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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"It's not too ridiculous to suggest that he would have sent his kids to school in Baghdad before he ever let them attend a Japanese school."
Strange relatives you have, I must say. Well, one does not get to choose one's kin, except the relatives by marriage. I have extensively dealt with the products of Japanese education [from upper layers], and can compare them with our homegrown Ivy Leaguers. In my field the Japanese-educated professors [like Yoshito Kishi at Harvard] are at or near the top, and given the choice of the undergraduates to TA, I would take Tokyo University undergrads over Princeton ones any day. Which means that even before getting into a university, they [in Japan] get a pretty solid preparation in a secondary school, including homework - which is more than I could say of the princetonians.
12 posted on 10/05/2006 4:22:15 AM PDT by GSlob
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Bunk, for the most part. Homework is essential to learning. I know, I hated it when I was in school, but as an adult I've come to a different conclusion. Our son went to a private school where he learned how (and when) to do homework. It was never a problem for him (the school told us never to bug him about it). Through the process he learned how to learn, and he is now a successful professional (which means that he still has homework). The notion that one can learn without effort is wrong. It takes considerable effort for most people to learn, and homework is part of the required effort.


13 posted on 10/05/2006 4:22:31 AM PDT by webboy45
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I think I might have gotten D's on some "art projects" I did.

I always preferred "writing the term paper" over "the fun art project."


14 posted on 10/05/2006 4:23:54 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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You've sort of made his case without even realizing it. His problem with the Japanese system is that it is so thoroughly regimented that it leaves students thoroughly unprepared for anything that requires even a modicum of imagination or creativity.

Your entire post revolves around your exposure to people in academia. Take one small step out of that academic environment and the deficiencies of the Japanese system are really exposed. I work as an engineer for a private employer, and one of the interesting things about my job is that many of the recent high school graduates who are working here as interns are far more competent and effective than some of the senior-level engineers who have graduated from top engineering programs.

15 posted on 10/05/2006 4:31:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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"However, when assigning an art project everyone should get an A if that is the best they could do."
Wrong. Dead wrong. There are reproductions of some apprentice drawings by 13-yrs old Michelangelo in the publications on him. If a 13-yrs old turns in anything like that, that's an A++, but if it looks as if the kid used his/her left leg to paint or draw with, then it is an F, the degree of effort spent [or rather wasted] notwithstanding.
16 posted on 10/05/2006 4:33:53 AM PDT by GSlob
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I think some teachers/schools assign lots of homework so that they can tell parents that they assign lots of homework and, hopefully, they will look like a school that has high standards.

Most of my son's 4th grade homework seems appropriate, but he doesn't spend more than 20 -30 minutes on it a night unless daddy checks the penmanship...and then it can take awhile.


17 posted on 10/05/2006 4:36:21 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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Civilization Watch
First appeared in print in The Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC
By Orson Scott Card September 24, 2006

Homework, Part II

Why Do We Still Get Homework?

Many who admit that homework is probably academically worthless in the elementary grades and not very helpful in high school still think kids should have it because:

1. It gets parents involved in their kids' education.

This implies that the homework isn't for the kids, it's for the parents. In other words, the school feels they have a right to assign parents to spend time doing worthless assignments with their children.

But what exactly are we doing when we're "involved" in our kids' homework?

Either we're not needed, because the kids can do it fine without us, or we are needed, because the kids can't do it alone. But if they can't do it alone, then we're the teachers. Unpaid, unwilling teachers.

Believe it or not, parents actually have other things to do with their children to help them become civilized human beings. We don't need teachers to assign us busywork just to get us "involved" in our kids' education.

We're already involved in their education. We were teaching them before they got old enough for school. We teach them all through their school years. We are their most important and powerful teachers of the core lessons of life, so those who are hired to give them their formal education really shouldn't make us do their job.

Besides, the kind of parents who aren't involved in their kids' education also don't help them do their homework. The only parents who help their kids with their homework are the ones who are involved in their education all the time anyway.

2. It gets younger kids used to the idea of doing homework.

Kids are going to drive when they're sixteen. So do we make them spend an hour a night pushing pedals and turning a steering wheel for ten years prior, so they'll be "used" to it?

It's not hard to learn to do homework. If homework doesn't begin to do any good till seventh grade, then start assigning it in seventh grade. In a single day, kids will get the idea just fine. They didn't need to spend hours each week practicing it for years beforehand.

3. Parents ask for more homework.

It's true. There are parents who are so competitive -- and so unaware of what homework is actually worth -- that they think their kids are not getting a "good education" unless they're plying the books all night every night.

To those parents, why don't we just say: Hire a private tutor. Make your children's childhood a living hell -- it's your option. But don't tell the school to make my kid do useless homework just so your kid can get a spurious "advantage." In fact, if you hire a private tutor to waste your children's hours, you'll get far more "advantage" than if everybody's doing homework. So leave my kid out of it, please.

4. Happiness is bad for children.

There really are grinches and scrooges in the world, people who are really annoyed to see children being happy and carefree. They believe that the only good way to raise a child is with suffering and hard work. They can't understand why we ever abolished child labor -- the kids should be productive, part of the economy, not drones! I had a miserable childhood, so why should these little brats be happy!

What they actually say, of course, is "Homework keeps the kids off the streets" or "out of gangs" or "out of trouble."

This is so mind-numbingly stupid that I can't believe people actually say this without getting laughed out of the room -- but they do, and they aren't.

Don't they get it that the kids who are on the streets and in gangs and getting in trouble aren't doing homework?

The only kids who are controlled by homework are the kids who either care enough to do it themselves -- the motivated students -- or the ones with parents who make them do it -- the ones with close parental supervision.

In other words, precisely the group of kids that already wasn't on the streets and didn't join gangs and didn't get in trouble.

The "bad kids" are going to be bad with or without homework.

And here's a clue: Homework is usually so mind-numbingly dull, so endless, so hopeless, so relentless, so useless that lots of motivated, bright kids whose parents are involved turn savagely against the whole idea of school. They hate reading, they hate writing, they hate everything because they never get a break, the process never ends, and they know perfectly well that it accomplishes nothing.

This is the damage that homework really does: It kills the love of reading and writing in thousands and thousands of children every year.

5. Foreign kids do homework.

So what? Just because other kids in other countries score higher on some standardized test doesn't mean anything.

We have these stupid scares every couple of decades and they are never based on anything true or important.

For one thing, we're only dealing with averages anyway. Even if the average American kid weren't as good at, say, mathematics as the average French schoolchild wouldn't mean that American mathematicians are not going to be as good as French mathematicians.

Most kids aren't going to be mathematicians. An American kid who's going to major in English or business can get a putrid score in math and it doesn't have any bearing on whether we're going to stay "ahead" of the Russians or French or Japanese in math or science.

In fact, making a future English or history or P.E. major take four years of high school math is a colossal waste of time, damaging that child's grade point average and his or her love of learning, to no purpose whatsoever.

Besides, some of those countries where the kids score "better" than ours actually do less homework than our kids. And some of the countries whose scores are in the toilet do more homework. But you never read about those in the news, do you?

That's because the kind of people who tout those comparisons where American kids are proven "behind" are all trying to talk you into spending more money on education or forcing more kids to major in fields they aren't interested in or putting up with more homework. They already have their goal in mind -- they only tell you the statistics they think will get you alarmed enough to let them get their way.

6. Homework teaches responsibility.

No it doesn't. Homework teaches obedience and compliance -- the opposite of responsibility.

You are only responsible when you have choices. Homework, the way it's usually assigned, is not even remotely a matter of choice.

When we say somebody is a responsible adult, we mean that they see jobs that need doing and simply do them, without being asked, of their own free will.

But when teachers say that students are "responsible" for homework, they only mean that if the children don't obey, they will be penalized. They are responsible only in the negative sense -- they will bear the consequences of noncompliance.

Homework does not teach responsibility. It does the opposite. It breaks the will and oppresses the spirit. It removes countless choices because it takes away all the available time for them to be carried out.

Time Off from School Is Not Wasted

We actually do know some things about how the brain works. One of the most obvious principles is this: Learning requires focus, and focus requires downtime.

We know this and take it into account in high-tension jobs -- like air traffic controllers. They work limited shifts precisely because you can't maintain focused attention for longer than a few hours at a time.

How long do you think children can maintain focused attention? How long do you think their brains can actually do it? Many don't even reach adult attention spans until they're in their twenties. And yet we require them to focus intensely on six or seven different subjects during the school day ... and then cycle through half of them again for hours each night! And we keep the pressure up on weekends, holidays, vacations.

Airline pilots are required to take twenty-four hours off between flights. Air traffic controllers get a night's sleep between shifts. But kids? Ha ha. We can push them till they break.

Good Homework

Kohn, in The Homework Myth, makes one declaration that should be the law in every state in the union: The default condition should be NO homework.

This borrows the computer usage of the term default, meaning the condition that prevails if nobody makes a deliberate change. Homework should have to be justified each time, not assumed.

Children and parents should start every day of every week of school assuming that unless something important comes up, there won't be any homework.

So that when there is homework, it's special. It's important. It's something so major that it really can't be completed on school time.

It's the biology project where you collect the leaves of forty different species of tree or bush in your neighborhood and identify them by scientific name and leaf type. That's not an empty project -- it means something, you learn something, it can't be done in school, and it can be done by high school students without any help from parents.

It's the major paper for English class where you read three different novels that tell the story of King Arthur -- let's say T.H. White's, Mary Stewart's, and Jack Whyte's -- and compare the authors' different approaches to the same tale.

It's the poetry project where you are assigned to write twenty poems using at least five different established forms, at least two poems in each form.

It's the history project in which you create a map of a major expedition by Cook or Columbus or Darwin or Magellan, marking all the stopping points and discoveries.

For drama class, it's a series of monologues; for music class, a recital; for art class, a portfolio.

These are projects that would take hours -- but because the child would be involved in choosing the topic, and would be showing progress to the teacher each step of the way, it would be a true educational experience.

Parental help would be almost meaningless -- the child would have to do all the important work alone.

And one of these in each school semester from seventh grade on -- not one per subject, just one, period -- would be memorable, exciting, productive, useful.

Homework Rules

Here are the homework rules that ought to be the target in every school district in America.

1. No homework before middle school. Ever. Period. Childhood is too precious to waste.

2. No homework over vacations, holidays, or weekends. Children need more time to rest and recuperate than adults, not less.

3. No tests on Monday or the day after a holiday or vacation. See above.

4. No empty homework. All assignments have to have a specific, immediate educational purpose within the subject matter of the class.

5. No assignments for parents. All assignments should be fully within the capability of all the children in the class, without parental involvement of any kind except to cooperate in scheduling time.

6. No excess repetition. Five examples should be sufficient to identify any problems a child might be having. Three are usually enough.

7. No makeup homework for sick days. The kid is still recuperating. Don't double his load.

Naturally, these rules are not in force in most schools or school districts in America.

What Do You Do Today?

Right now, our child is getting a doable amount of homework. Some of it is pointless. Most of it will make no difference at all in her learning. But it's at a tolerable level. She can still take dance and karate and take part in church activities and watch a few favorite tv shows and have time with friends and spend time with her parents and read what she likes.

But what do you do if the homework is not at a tolerable level?

My suggestion is: Read The Case Against Homework and The Homework Myth so you know what you're talking about.

Then talk to your children's teachers -- the ones who are assigning too much, too often. Don't go in with a chip on your shoulder. They didn't go into teaching because they hate children and want them to suffer. Most of the time, the teachers assigning the heavy homework don't even realize how much time it's actually taking.

Be candid. Most teachers will be shocked to learn that your child cries or falls asleep over his or her homework almost every night. Few teachers have a clue that their "fifteen-minute assignment" actually takes forty-five, and is piled on top of three other teachers' "fifteen-minute" forty-five minute assignments.

Ask for their help, at least to start. But be specific. "Would you be able to evaluate my child's progress just as well if she only did five of these problems instead of twenty? That would make a real difference in her life."

Or, "My child comes home without any idea how to solve these problems, and I'm not qualified to teach him. Is there any way you could make sure the children learn these concepts in class, instead of leaving me to try to figure out math that I haven't studied in twenty-five years?"

Often, you'll find that teachers are happy to change their homework procedures. Remember, most teachers hate homework too. If you can provide them with a valid reason to cut back, many of them will -- not just for your kid, but for all the kids in their class.

Many of them give homework assignments only because they know they're expected to. They don't even think about it anymore. But once you call it into question in a positive, friendly, please-help-me way, many teachers will realize that they could give less homework without hurting their students' academic progress at all.

Sometimes, though, you'll run into the homework hardliners or the prickly experts.

The homework hardliners are true believers. You have to gently suggest that maybe the scientific data don't back up their position as much as they might think. Offer to lend them a copy of The Homework Myth for a serious critique of the few studies that even approach the problem. Some of them might even be open to learning something.

The real problem is the prickly expert. You find these scattered through every field. They get huffy when anybody -- especially a parent -- suggests that they aren't the expert on everything in their field. They take it as a challenge to their authority.

You've known doctors like that -- they treat your questions with disdain and dismiss any of your suggestions that they might be wrong. So you change doctors.

It's harder to change teachers for your child. And arguing with a prickly expert doesn't work -- in fact, it backfires, because they actually enjoy standing up against the onslaughts of the ignorant masses (i.e., you). The more you rail at them, the more superior they feel and the happier they are.

So don't get mad. Really. Don't. Not even a little. Not even sarcastic. Leave the room.

Write a letter to the teacher, with a copy to the principal. Tell the teacher that you are going to limit your high school age child to no more than one hour of homework per school night, per week (less for middle school, and none at all for elementary school). "Since this is my decision, not my child's, I'm sure that no one will take any action that would single out my child in front of the other students, or hamper his ability to take part in the normal activities of school."

Then you have to hold to the agreement -- make sure your child does that one hour per night, evenly divided among the subjects. Make copies of all the homework, if you can, to prove that it was submitted. Make sure to keep a record of your child's grades on all in-class tests and assignments, so that if the prickly expert tries to penalize your student disproportionately (for instance, giving him a failing grade for the whole course even though he did well on all the work except the excessive homework), then you're in a position to appeal.

Be prepared to hear this: "No other parents have complained."

First, this is usually not even true. It's just what they say to make you feel isolated and alone.

But even if it is true, it's irrelevant. "I'm not the parent of any other children but mine. Mine are spending too much of their childhood on meaningless homework assignments."

If you still get answers like, "Your child's inadequacies and poor study habits are not going to disrupt our program," then smile and thank them for their time.

Then go home and start calling other parents. Find the ones that are as upset as you are, and form an organization. Even if there are only two of you, you're now a committee. You can start publically declaring what the studies actually show -- the uselessness of homework for elementary children, and the near uselessness of it for everybody else.

It's a very rare school or district -- or even private school -- that will not take steps to accommodate your concerns.

Remember, though: This all goes far, far better if you never lose your temper in public or private conversations. You don't have to answer their arguments at the moment. You don't have to answer their snootiness with the outrage that you feel. You have the confidence that comes from knowing that you're right, and you're defending your children.

But don't take my word for it. Read The Case Against Homework. It's a manual for individual and group activism.

Teachers Are Not the Enemy

Most of the time, though, you won't need any "activism." Most teachers really want what's best for their students. Most of them don't realize -- because nobody has ever told them -- how useless homework is. All they need is a friendly conversation in which the parent and teacher are partners in finding a way for each child to have a good education and a happy childhood at the same time. They will be happy to lighten the load.

Here's the guiding principle: You don't try to force them to do things your way at school. They shouldn't try to force you to do things their way at home. Each of you should be master of your own domain. They only get to assign homework -- work done by your children in your home -- with your consent.

Few teachers and fewer school districts ever really think of it that way. That's all we need to do -- remind them that their legal and moral authority over our children ends with the final bell and the children's safe departure from school premises.

After that, we're responsible.

We're not employees of the school district. They're not our bosses. We don't have to do their bidding.

And no matter how much they love our kids, we love them more. They were our kids before they went to school, and they'll be our kids when they get out again. They're still our kids during all the years and days and hours in between.

References

Sara Bennett and Nancy Kalish. The Case Against Homework: How Homework is Hurting our Children and What We Can Do About It. New York: Crown, 2006, 290 pp.

Alfie Kohn. The Homework Myth: Why Our Kids Get Too Much of a Bad Thing. Cambridge, MA: Da Capo Books, Perseus Books Group, 2006, 250 pp.

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18 posted on 10/05/2006 4:38:37 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: Alberta's Child

It's funny, everyone who discusses academics seems to act like the right hemisphere of the brain doesn't exist. I said it in another thread and I'll say it here:

The US leads the world in innovation not because we are smarter (we are not), but because we are the most free. Even with the creeping nanny state, we are light years ahead of anywhere else in terms of freedom. If I need something designed and built perfectly to my specs, I'd probably turn to an Indian or Japanese. If I want someone to come up with totally new specs that no one has ever thought of, I'll turn to an American.

Some people want to beat that out of our children, to make us more like the Asians, or the Europeans with their rote "competency". They want great worker bees. I want leaders and innovators. Freedom, baby!


19 posted on 10/05/2006 4:39:21 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Kishi is so uncreative and devoid of imagination that he imagined, designed, and carried out [well, his postdocs did the last part] much more complex syntheses than anyone else. I dealt with some of them - there are not many seriously creative people anywhere, but their good ones are really good, and much better prepared. Loose brains are unusable.
20 posted on 10/05/2006 4:39:55 AM PDT by GSlob
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