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Blogger credited in discovering identity (of former House page)
News 9 Oklahoma ^ | 10-4-06

Posted on 10/05/2006 8:07:17 AM PDT by truthandlife

William Kerr knew he was on to the biggest story of his life. But he didn’t know it was in his own back yard.

Kerr, of Moore, is the author of the blog Passionate America, which is being credited with discovering the identity of the former House page who may have exchanged inappropriate instant messages with former Rep. Mark Foley, and that the former page now works for Oklahoma gubernatorial candidate Ernest Istook.

Kerr said he received e-mails and phone calls from national media outlets Wednesday, including the tabloid television program Inside Edition and Internet pundit Matt Drudge.

“I started thinking, ‘I’m not big enough to put this story out,’” Kerr said. “In the four days that we really worked on this, we just said to each other, ‘Do you know how big this is?’”

Kerr said he stumbled onto the former page’s AOL screen name when looking at transcripts of the instant messages on ABC’s Web site Saturday.

He said he typed a slightly-different Web address into his browser and found a version of the transcript with the screen name.

Kerr and another blogger spent several days researching on the Internet.

They had determined the page’s identity and were about to publish it when they found out he worked for Istook.

Kerr said he accidentally posted the story before he intended. Although he removed the post, the information already had spread.

He tried to verify the former page’s identity through Istook’s campaign office, but was turned away.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bloggers; day; dems; dirty; pajamapeoplerule; save; soishe18; tricks

1 posted on 10/05/2006 8:07:18 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

Is this case one of "fake but accurate?" Obviously, ABC knew that the page was not 16, yet published reports that he was.


2 posted on 10/05/2006 8:09:28 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: truthandlife

I wonder if Kerr knows everything that we know about this young man. Someone should invite him to FreeRepublic.


3 posted on 10/05/2006 8:10:30 AM PDT by Eva
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To: truthandlife

Interesting tidbit from the article:

. . . . Edmund had an Internet page on the popular MySpace Web site.

On that Web page, he identified himself as being 21 years old and said he had been attending college at the University of California, Berkeley. He also identified himself as a House page from September 2001 to June 2002. He would have been 16 and 17 then. He said he was going to Oklahoma to be deputy campaign manager for Istook’s gubernatorial effort, according to the Web site. . . . .

So much for the "he was 18!" argument.


4 posted on 10/05/2006 8:10:39 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Brilliant
Obviously, ABC knew that the page was not 16, yet published reports that he was

Doesn't ABC need to be held accountable at some point? They need to issue a major correction.

5 posted on 10/05/2006 8:11:37 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Brilliant
Obviously, ABC knew that the page was not 16, yet published reports that he was.

The old Dan Rather, "even thought the document is fraudulent, I stick by the content" bullshit.

6 posted on 10/05/2006 8:12:50 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: truthandlife
The full story of how he found Jordan's identity is online here.

Great work!
7 posted on 10/05/2006 8:13:45 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: CobaltBlue

The IMs were from the time when he was still a page and 16 or 17 yrs old?


8 posted on 10/05/2006 8:14:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (Billy only tried to kill Bin Laden, he actually succeeded with Ron Brown and Vince Foster.)
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To: CobaltBlue
I see your point, but wasn't the alleged IM's between Foley and the page during 2003? That would make him 18. I believe Foley was courting the page but didn't make sexual innuendos until he was legal. Hell, I can't keep up with this story.
9 posted on 10/05/2006 8:16:20 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: Protagoras; CobaltBlue
The IMs were from the time when he was still a page and 16 or 17 yrs old?

CobaltBlue: You cannot make that determination from the article. I thought these IMs were from 2003(Which is 3 years ago as being reported) not 2001 or 2002.

10 posted on 10/05/2006 8:16:41 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: CobaltBlue

It was my understanding that although he was 16 & 17 when he was a page in D.C. - the I.M's didn't start until AFTER he had left and would have been 18 and older. But I may not have this all straight.. (no pun intended)


11 posted on 10/05/2006 8:16:58 AM PDT by Momto2
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To: CobaltBlue
"He also identified himself as a House page from September 2001 to June 2002. He would have been 16 and 17 then....."

"So much for the "he was 18!" argument."

From all that I have read the dirty IM's started in 2003 AFTER he had left being a page. Therefore he would have been going on 18 or 18 at that time.

12 posted on 10/05/2006 8:17:26 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: CobaltBlue
So much for the "he was 18!" argument.

The IMs were from 2003 and the emails later that that. Your reasoning is off.

13 posted on 10/05/2006 8:17:32 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: cowboyway

What did ABC know and when did they know it? To put all these IM's up on a web site and either state or imply that the young man corresponding with Foley was underage is a deliberate effort to manipulate the public.


14 posted on 10/05/2006 8:18:33 AM PDT by carola
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To: frogjerk
I thought these IMs were from 2003(Which is 3 years ago as being reported) not 2001 or 2002.

I read the IMs were time stamped April 2003......

15 posted on 10/05/2006 8:18:50 AM PDT by b4its2late (I'm not insensitive, I just don't care.)
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To: truthandlife
We need Fitzgerald to investigate this. He's great at investigating things that are NOT a crime.
16 posted on 10/05/2006 8:19:18 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: truthandlife

Can anyone in Oklahoma tell me if this is big news there? I called my folks last night to tell them to keep watch on this. Just curious if it is actually on the radio/news. Is this from the channel 9 TV station or a web page?


17 posted on 10/05/2006 8:20:33 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: CobaltBlue
So much for the "he was 18!" argument.

Um, the correspondence was from 2003.

18 posted on 10/05/2006 8:21:37 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: poobear
Hell, I can't keep up with this story.

I'm trying not to but I keep getting sucked in -- no pun intended. There's more than one page, it appears, one from Louisiana and one from California, and they're different ages.

Probably more than two but those are the ones that are being talked about right now.

19 posted on 10/05/2006 8:21:37 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: b4its2late

That is correct and his 18th birthday was 2/23/03. He was 18. He's also lawyered up with McVeigh's defense attorney.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse


20 posted on 10/05/2006 8:22:01 AM PDT by CajunConservative (If the Dems take the House, Nancy Pelosi will be two heartbeats from the Presidency.)
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To: CobaltBlue

Sorry for replying AGAIN. My mistake for not reading the thread and realizing you had already go the same info. like 10 times already.


21 posted on 10/05/2006 8:23:29 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: carola
What did ABC know and when did they know it?

We need a full investigation and the leadership at ABC needs to step down immediately!

22 posted on 10/05/2006 8:27:39 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: CobaltBlue

"I'm trying not to but I keep getting sucked in -- no pun intended."

LOL! Same here. I think one 'victim' has hired a high profile attorney for his 'defense'. These guys give all new meaning to "Drama Queens", if you know what I mean.


23 posted on 10/05/2006 8:30:34 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: carola
What did ABC know and when did they know it?

They knew from the beginning. It's clear that they deliberately manipulated the story to make Foley look like a pedophile when he was actually doing cybersex with someone over the age of eighteen.
24 posted on 10/05/2006 8:39:46 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: CobaltBlue
There's more than one page, it appears, one from Louisiana and one from California, and they're different ages.

The emails were to the 16-year-old from LA, pretty innocent, nothing criminal. The IMs were to the kid who turned 18 by the time Foley was doing the cybersex thing with him (but Foley had typed some creepy IMs to him before he was eighteen as well).

It appears Foley knew the law. He was scouting them while they were pages but waiting until after they were eighteen. That's why he kept asking when their birthdays were and apparently avoided illegal conduct while they were underage.

ABC knew all this. But they could skew it into a hitjob on the GOP and Hastert. The goal: the House in Dim hands.
25 posted on 10/05/2006 8:43:47 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

The age of consent in DC is 16, and Foley lived in DC and the pages' dorm is in DC, so not illegal.

Maybe a violation of some ethical rule, I dunno.

I haven't read the explicit stuff, every time I see something that says, "warning, explicit language" I skip it. My stomach isn't that strong.

Apparently Foley's homosexuality was an open secret, everybody that wanted to know knew, everybody else suspected it but didn't want to make a big deal about it.

If it turns out that the hoorah is just about the fact that some Republicans are Religious Right, well, so what? Some aren't. I don't care whether someone's gay.


26 posted on 10/05/2006 8:48:31 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
hold on. Have you ever been to Myspace.com? you can be whoever you want and whatever AGE you want.. Heck. I can make a profile right now saying that I was the page and that i was 15 then..

don't put to much stock into ANYTHING you get from the Space pages.. unless you can ALSO find the same info someplace else.
27 posted on 10/05/2006 9:03:02 AM PDT by dcrider182 (thanks Dad ,for raising me right!)
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To: CobaltBlue
If it turns out that the hoorah is just about the fact that some Republicans are Religious Right, well, so what? Some aren't. I don't care whether someone's gay.

I'm consider myself Religious Right. That doesn't mean I think all sins should be legislated.

Christ didn't die to institute a legislative agenda, He died to save us from our sins.

There are lots of lazy nominal Christians who want the State to accomplish that which they are too lazy or too timid to do themselves: offer Christ as Savior to sinners. Their sloth and expediency is no excuse to re-enact the worst failings of the medieval Roman Catholic church as an arm of the State. And it is un-American to misuse the state's power in this way. This is what I distrust about FRC/Dobson/Perkins.

Some Religious Righters should really change the Lord's Prayer to be more honest about their ideals: "The State is my Shepherd, I shall not want..."
28 posted on 10/05/2006 9:17:52 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: truthandlife

An excellent job by William Kerr.
Thorough and thoughtful.

What makes the right wing internet so good is that the media has to be forced to listen to us, the left wing internet is abysmal because the media holds them to no standard (like themselves LOL!).


29 posted on 10/05/2006 9:22:08 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: George W. Bush
Some Religious Righters should really change the Lord's Prayer to be more honest about their ideals: "The State is my Shepherd, I shall not want..."

I thought that was from the 23rd Psalm.

30 posted on 10/05/2006 9:24:38 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: dcrider182

Can you tell when a Myspace profile was created?


31 posted on 10/05/2006 9:24:53 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: carola
What did ABC know and when did they know it? To put all these IM's up on a web site and either state or imply that the young man corresponding with Foley was underage is a deliberate effort to manipulate the public.

And tamper with a Federal election.

32 posted on 10/05/2006 9:25:05 AM PDT by LikeLight (RYMB)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I thought that was from the 23rd Psalm.

It is. I stayed up way too late, gloating over the collapse of Foleygate so I'm a little foggy today. And I'm riveted to Rush now, exposing all this stuff we've been discussing here.

Like watching a (Dim) trainwreck...
33 posted on 10/05/2006 9:44:31 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Like watching a (Dim) trainwreck...

No, it's like a rhine-stone COW-boy . . .

(Chortling over the earwig I just gave you)

34 posted on 10/05/2006 9:51:41 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I am sure someone has already posted it this on FR somewhere...

But, I think this story came out sooner than they wanted, to get the media off the Sink Emperor's interview on Fox.

While I despise what Foley has done, I like everyone else finding the timing just a tad too convenient.

35 posted on 10/05/2006 10:29:45 AM PDT by Repub4bush (Tony is the Best Press Secretary Ever!!!!! (Sorry Ari, I liked you too, but you ain't Tony!))
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To: Repub4bush
Well thats their tactic.... once something starts to blow up on them they quickly move onto a new issue to distract from the 'revelations'.

They were rattled from surge in Bush's numbers for a few weeks, got jittery, and couldn't help but play the NIE card early. Then when Bush skunked them, declassified the rest of the report a day or two later, they had no choice but to play the 2nd card in the deck. Now that it is starting to fall apart on them, I predict that by this weekend we'll have the 3rd card played.

They are trying to move from one to the next to minimize the effect of the corrections while still going all out on the accusations.
36 posted on 10/05/2006 11:36:54 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: Repub4bush
Well thats their tactic.... once something starts to blow up on them they quickly move onto a new issue to distract from the 'revelations'.

They were rattled from surge in Bush's numbers for a few weeks, got jittery, and couldn't help but play the NIE card early. Then when Bush skunked them, declassified the rest of the report a day or two later, they had no choice but to play the 2nd card in the deck. Now that it is starting to fall apart on them, I predict that by this weekend we'll have the 3rd card played.

They are trying to move from one to the next to minimize the effect of the corrections while still going all out on the accusations.
37 posted on 10/05/2006 11:36:54 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: CajunConservative
He's also lawyered up with McVeigh's defense attorney.


okay, a mere side issue, I realize, but I don't think I would pick an attorney who's most notable client was executed.
38 posted on 10/05/2006 11:42:29 AM PDT by smonk
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To: CobaltBlue

yes.. it'll say on the left hand side.. "member since..." it will also say when it was last updated.. thats a little harder to find however..


39 posted on 10/05/2006 3:55:44 PM PDT by dcrider182 (thanks Dad ,for raising me right!)
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