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Fox News: Foley Case Destroying Repub Chances
Fox News | 11/5/06

Posted on 10/05/2006 10:22:48 AM PDT by pabianice

Pending Hastert's news conference, Fox is reporting that internal Repub polls indicate that the Foley matter is destroying any chance of the Repubs keeping the House, "and maybe the Senate as well." Breaking as we await the Hastert news congerence. Fox reports that the entire country is riveted by this matter and it has "blown away" all other issues for the upcoming mid-terms.

I have a hard time believing this manufactured scandal is having this effect, but Fox seems to be shooting straight on this. Perhaps the dealy in the Hastert new conference is due to furious fighting over whether he needs to resign as speaker today. With no other candidate standing-by, Fox notes that Congress would be required to re-convene to elect a new speaker, keeping this mess in the lime light right up to election day. This ambush was apparently very well planned.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006election; bullzogby; dncbrownshirts; election2006; foley; foleygate; foxnews; howtostealanelection; makingitup; mediabias; polls; thebiglie; yeahandkerrywon; zogbyism
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1 posted on 10/05/2006 10:22:48 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Fox is obviuosly trying to kiss up to the Clinton Kool Aid drinkers with all of this worthless talk. Worthless it is to the max.


2 posted on 10/05/2006 10:24:16 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: pabianice

This is a crock from Fox.


3 posted on 10/05/2006 10:24:17 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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To: pabianice
it has "blown away"

They probably could have picked a better word than one with 'blow' in it. :)
4 posted on 10/05/2006 10:24:23 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: pabianice
The whole country isn't talking about it. Only politicos and perverts.
5 posted on 10/05/2006 10:26:38 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: pabianice
I don't buy it. The utter irrelevance of this matter to congressional elections aside, there is still over a month before the elections. Nobody but the most partisan Democrat voters are going to remember this in a month.

Especially after Rove launches his October Surprise. ;-)

6 posted on 10/05/2006 10:26:42 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: pabianice

Saw that too. I have a bad feeling something is going to happen soon. Dammit, this whole thing reeks of a game of chess and this might be "check-mate" Hope Im wrong.


7 posted on 10/05/2006 10:26:49 AM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: pabianice

More... former FBI Head Louis Freed may be appointed to investigate Foleygate.


8 posted on 10/05/2006 10:27:36 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

I noticed that the stories by Fox news and the other MSM folks always state a "Pollster", with no name given. Could this pollster have an axe to grind against Hastert?


9 posted on 10/05/2006 10:27:38 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic
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To: pabianice
I just don't buy this. i asked the guys in my office what they thought about Foley and if they thought Hastert should resign. Only 1 person knew who Hastert was...nobody knew who Foley was. This is big news to news junkies only.

All we need is for President Bush to get out on the stump and pump up the base.

10 posted on 10/05/2006 10:28:02 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: pabianice

How on earth could that be? Oh yeah, Tom Delay, Bob Ney, Mark Foley, Duke Cunningham......

Now I remember.


11 posted on 10/05/2006 10:28:12 AM PDT by no dems (I'll take a moral Mormon over a demonic Democrat or repugnant RINO anyday.)
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To: pabianice

Is this by one of the ex cnn'ers like Major Garrett? This is a Welstone minute and will backfire.


12 posted on 10/05/2006 10:29:09 AM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I just can't believe this would influence one vote. I just can't imagine a single person saying, gee I support the Republican party, it's ideas and platform but because of one perv in congress I'm goin to switch my vote to the anti-american, pro-gay lobby, same sex marriage advocate, abortion on demand, cut and tun and defame the US Military demo/socialist party. Uhh, I don't think so.


13 posted on 10/05/2006 10:29:10 AM PDT by marlon
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To: pabianice

Well, we shall see. The CW certainly has this as a nail in the coffin moment for the Republicans.

Still, the one thing that remains is the issues. Are there enough October suprises for the dems to keep the voters attention away from their positions on the issues. I have to tell you, the voters might be fixated on Foley, but more as a National Enquirer thing than something that affects their vote.


14 posted on 10/05/2006 10:29:36 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Would you like your Fox in a box?..........


15 posted on 10/05/2006 10:29:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: pabianice

Baloney


16 posted on 10/05/2006 10:30:35 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I agree. I know there are voters who vote irrationally, but why would being offended by Foley's actions lead anyone to vote for a Democrat? Are Democrats supposed to be less likely (at all levels of government) to send salty instant messages? (I'm not defending Foley's behavior with the "Democrats-do-that-too" argument; I'm just challenging the idea that the Foley scandal will have an impact on other races.)


17 posted on 10/05/2006 10:30:41 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: FlipWilson

CW?


18 posted on 10/05/2006 10:30:42 AM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: B Knotts

Yesterday afternoon on NPR they announced a poll (small numbers) taken in rural high GOP areas, and failed to find one voter that was changing their vote to the RAT party. I think this will hurt somewhat, but there is still a month to go before the election. At least this story didn't come out a week before the election like the W DWI story.


19 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:06 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: pabianice

FOX is a POS network run by a Democrat that caught a unique slogan "fair and balanced" but that's all it is, a slogan.


20 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:26 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: pabianice

Other than the media and the new-junkies, is anyone even paying any attention to this? Does anyone even care?


21 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:40 AM PDT by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home.)
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To: pabianice
I don't know where Fox is coming up with this, but I think they are way wrong. Frankly, I was sick of hearing about day one. It's been talked to death and analyzed beyond necessity. I think (or maybe hope) that all this backfires and I see some of that happening now.
22 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:49 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: pabianice

Is this before or after the news taht the page was actually an 18 year old, legal homosexual?


23 posted on 10/05/2006 10:32:00 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: pabianice

Is it time to ask Gay Republicans to leave the party?


24 posted on 10/05/2006 10:32:11 AM PDT by GOPJ (Like Larry Flynt, the MSM is only interested in the scandal when a Republican is involved.)
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To: boomop1

Paste: " This is a Welstone minute and will backfire."

I wish I could see how. The Welstone moment showcased bad behaviour on the dems part. Try as the MSM did, they could not cover for the dems. In this case, all I see here (that is in plain view) is bad Repub behaviour. It is easy for the MSM to coverup the dems bad behaviour (sitting on these IM's) in this instance.


25 posted on 10/05/2006 10:32:33 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: newconhere

Conventional wisdom.


26 posted on 10/05/2006 10:32:33 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: pabianice

Louis FReeh? lolol

What, Janet Reno wasn't open to the job?

This is too funny..
Not!


27 posted on 10/05/2006 10:33:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: tobyhill

I think FOX it trying to hype a news story.

So, are we to really believe that:

1 - WHEN A REPUBLICAN ACTS LIKE A D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T

2 - the disappointed Republicans will then go to the the voting box and vote DEMOCRAT?

Doesn't make sense to me.


28 posted on 10/05/2006 10:33:24 AM PDT by musikman
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To: pabianice

Watch for Bush to use this opportunity to quietly veto the 700 miles of border fence. I hope I'm wrong but then again...


29 posted on 10/05/2006 10:33:37 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: newconhere

Convetional Wisdom


30 posted on 10/05/2006 10:33:39 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: pabianice

If Republicans let this phoney Democrat and media created non sex sex scandal effect their vote in a negative way then they deserve to lose a hundred seats


31 posted on 10/05/2006 10:33:40 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: FlipWilson

I just don't get it.

OK, Foley sent these e-mails and IMs. Maybe there's more to the story, but he resigned in disgrace.


Would the Democrats really rather have us focus on IMs where a homosexual congressman requests "measurements" shall we say, from a male congressional page, rather than on their plans for Iraq, whatever those plans may be?

this can backfire on the Dems if not careful. Because Foley is a homosexual, there is a gay bashing element here that they have to be careful about, since they are the party of tolerance of gays and other things.


32 posted on 10/05/2006 10:33:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: The South Texan

I have wonder if we need to just turn off Fox for a few weeks. They are becoming a more and more liberal.


33 posted on 10/05/2006 10:34:08 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: irish guard

They're not going to report the fact that the page was 18 because it ruins the pre-concocted conclusion or at least diminishes it.


34 posted on 10/05/2006 10:34:36 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: pabianice

The page was 18 at the time of the non-scandal. Why isn't that making news, other than on blogs and websites?


35 posted on 10/05/2006 10:34:50 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (I wouldn't vote for a RAT if my life depended on it. Come to think of it, my life does depend on it.)
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To: The South Texan

Scorbrough is saying the evangelicals are going to stay home. The Demo have definately won the House period. Oh I don't know I am a born again and I will certainly vote. Many see it as a duty. I think there will not be a decrease in voters because of this. I do think some of the elite Rockerfeller so called Repubs will vote for Dems as all they care about is MONEY and PALM greasing and the deals they want are probably already made.


36 posted on 10/05/2006 10:35:16 AM PDT by therut
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To: RegulatorCountry

"Conventional Wisdom"

(slap in the head) of course, thanks.


37 posted on 10/05/2006 10:35:24 AM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: pabianice

Fox News is pissing me off. They need to report facts, not their own personal opinions. Why don't the report that ABC News is backtracking now, and investigate the source of the Instant Messages, and who was the lawbreaker that leaked them to the public?


38 posted on 10/05/2006 10:35:35 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: BallyBill

The whole country isn't talking about it. Only politicos and perverts.
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And freepers. Seems like every other thread is related to this story.


39 posted on 10/05/2006 10:36:46 AM PDT by dmz
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To: pabianice

I'm a very practical person. I call it the way I see 'em. I don't believe this. It is waaay too early for this to have any material impact on polling. So far this is insider baseball stuff and really hasn't resonated in the general public in true scandal fashion. I personally think this is disinformation.

If this story is still hot next Friday then I'd say maybe, but it is just too early in this news cycle to be impacting this hard in the polls. Something is rotten in Denmark and FOX maybe smoking some bad stuff.


40 posted on 10/05/2006 10:37:30 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: pabianice

I don't believe it either. Voters are simply not that stupid and naive.


41 posted on 10/05/2006 10:37:35 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: FlipWilson
Well let them dwell on this minuscule BS and see what happens.
42 posted on 10/05/2006 10:37:35 AM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: FlipWilson
Still, the one thing that remains is the issues.

For example, Bush has steadily and patiently warned North Korea's mincing little bouffant dictator not to test nuclear weapons. Kim Jong Il may just be stupid enough to ignore the warnings. If he does, he may trigger a response from the US that will overwhelm the manufactured Foley non-story and all other inane non-stories in news cycles for the next six months.

Kim Jong Il may unwittingly bring America's attention back to the most important issue of our time: national security.

43 posted on 10/05/2006 10:38:02 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: TommyDale

Because all their daytime anchors are Democrats, including Shepherd Smith


44 posted on 10/05/2006 10:38:05 AM PDT by Welike ike
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To: Desron13
Watch for Bush to use this opportunity to quietly veto the 700 miles of border fence. I hope I'm wrong but then again...

You border bots see a big immigration conspiracy everywhere. He already signed the bill. Pay attention once and a while and not just to the mindless rhetoric of your fellow border bots.

45 posted on 10/05/2006 10:38:07 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: pabianice

Again, all Foley has to do is get up there, speak like a MAN and say, I am being accused of being an accomplice to child molestation. HOW DARE THE DEMOCRATS DO THIS. If I had know about the vile IM's, not only would I have had Foley resign immediately, but I would have insisted on prosecution. This is an attack on my character, and I WILL NOT HAVE IT.


46 posted on 10/05/2006 10:38:26 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: pabianice

We don't have the poll. We don't have the methology, And we know the polster that produced this poll is the one that told Republicans to cancel appearances with hastert days ago. This polster has an agenda and I want the breakdown of the poll RIGHT NOW IF it exists.

50 seats? Yeah right.


47 posted on 10/05/2006 10:39:06 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: BallyBill
The whole country isn't talking about it. Only politicos and perverts.

And late night talk-show hosts in their opening monologues. When Leno and Conan are making jokes about it, much of the country knows about it. This issue has gotten a lot more awareness from the average voter than the usual Beltway stuff.
48 posted on 10/05/2006 10:39:08 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: pabianice

I think Fox is overblowing this. But we should get the word out that, while Repubs do have their perverts and other evil people, we force them out of office, while the Dems hold theirs up as paragons of virtue and do their best to get them re-elected.


49 posted on 10/05/2006 10:39:11 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: pabianice

The dateline is November 5, 2006.


50 posted on 10/05/2006 10:39:12 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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