Skip to comments.Watchdog Group Disputes FBI's Claims on E-Mails
Posted on 10/05/2006 8:19:20 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
The watchdog group that first provided the FBI with suspicious e-mails from then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) said yesterday that FBI and Justice Department officials are attempting to cover up their inaction in the case by making false claims about the group.
Law enforcement officials said the allegations by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) are without merit, and they stood by allegations that the group had refused to provide some information to the FBI.
The dispute is the latest controversy this week for CREW, a liberal-leaning group that has come under attack from House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and other Republicans because it has received money from a foundation funded by liberal financier George Soros.
CREW held a news conference Monday to announce that in July it had provided the FBI suspicious e-mails between Foley and a former House page. The group criticized the bureau for not taking more aggressive action and asked Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine to investigate the FBI's handling of the case.
Law enforcement officials said then that the e-mails did not provide enough evidence of a possible crime to warrant a full investigation. In the e-mails, Foley praises the physical attributes of one page and asks another teenager for his picture.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
"In subsequent days, unidentified Justice and FBI officials told reporters that the e-mails provided by CREW were heavily redacted and that the group refused to provide unedited versions to the FBI. One law enforcement official -- speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation -- also told The Washington Post the FBI believed that CREW may have received the e-mails as early as April and that the group refused to tell the FBI how they were obtained."
Let the he said / she said games begin!
Wheels flying off in all directions. The rat re-election bus is sliding on its side into Pick-Your-Part.
WTF, how can't the refuse to cooperate with the FBI?
Yeah, that's the way, call the FBI "LIARS".
"liberal-leaning group" my a**! The compost is running on full spin cycle here. LOL!
Looks like CREW will be needing a lifeboat soon.
Let the subpoenas begin!
I think I found it!
Arrest Soros for obstruction. Problem solved.
someone should be arrested, not cooperating with an ongoing investigaton? hmmm
That's it! Time to strip 'er down!
The teen whose physical attributes were discussed was over 18, and asking for a picture is not a crime.
Ms. Sloan had in the past worked for Sen. Joseph Biden(D) of Deleware as well as John Conyers. She's a liberal hack.
The DemocRATS' "foleygate" fiasco is starting to look more and more like another Rathergate fiasco with forged and phony "documents." Somebody needs to go to jail.
They don't want Freeh and the FBI is wrong! Doesn't get any better than this.
Roll her up on the blocks and let's salvage what we can...
"..One target of Republican criticism is Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), the group that last year assisted former Rep. Chris Bell (D-Texas) in drafting an ethics complaint against DeLay, which resulted in an admonishment of DeLay from the ethics committee. At last weeks press conference, Melanie Sloan, CREWs executive director, said that DeLay should step down as majority leader.
From 1995 to 1998, CREWs Sloan served as minority counsel for the House Judiciary Committee under Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.). Before that, Sloan served as the nominations counsel on the Senate Judiciary Committee under Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.)..."
CREW is a Soros Org and Sloan worked for Democrats. This material was held held back for maximum effect on the election. The political motivations are so obvious that any part of this has to be looked at extra closely. For Instance, how can we know the IMs are real and not fabrications like Memogate? The emails we know about are very mild by comparison.
Probably typed on an IBM Selectric too.
Ya, we're sort of outraged!
Today when Cavuto asked Soros about this, Soros said that he contributes money, but knows nothing about what these groups do.
So I guess the FBI will just pack up its investigation and go home. CREW doesn't want to play. Oh well.
The jig is up.
Thanks for that link
Update: People with the same names as John Conyer's Detroit office staffers just happen to have addresses in neighboring upscale suburb Royal Oak, Michigan.
May mean something. May mean nothing.
I'd post the list, but I don't know, seems sort of an invasion of privacy given this is all just a hunch of a fishing expedition at this point.
Update: IP of StopSexualPredators Admin ID'd As Coming From Royal Oak, Michigan
Could it be that the Staffer they are talking about is Foley's ex-chief of staff, Kirk?
Could it be that they know that it was Edmund chatting with Kirk, using Foley's AIM account? Could it be that they knew this because they put them up to it back in April 2003 when they were just getting going?
FBI should grill them good, including a polygraph session.
Ahhh,yeah, right. So CREW sent the FBI some email, IMs, etc. and said, "These are from Mark Foley. Go investigate." And the FBI was given the teen's email address. Hmmmm...
Was it a Yahoo.com email address or some other free service that anyone can open with any name they choose? Gee...I can't understand why the FBI couldn't run with that. I guess Ms. Sloan wanted the agents to simply go pressure Foley and pay no mind to the "victims" since there's obviously no need to talk to them.
I'm glad this b!tch works for the dems and not us.
Edmund's buddy Englander went to U. of MI in Ann Arbor, MI a mere 45 miles away. Maybe the IP is for a local MI ISP that serves both cities? Hopefully the FBI is looking into Englander as well. He may be the cutout between Edmund and CREW.
As recorded in formal complaints submitted to the election board, a man fitting the description of WP Chair Chip Englander went door-to-door trying to secure votes for his party. He knocked on doors and presented himself as a supporter, but not candidate of the party. After being let in to peoples' rooms, he went to the election web page and asked students to enter their uniqnames and passwords.
According to one report, "I wasn't watching what he did after that, but basically, I turned around and he had the entire ballot filled out for a certain party. I looked at him like he was crazy." In another report, the man "very quickly, because I think he had been doing it all night, clicked all of the Wolverine Party candidates. . I never gave him permission, but he submitted my vote anyway."
Mr. Agrawal disputes this, claiming in an e-mail sent to the Wolverine Party that the Election Board investigated the complaints and found "several rooms" had similar experiences. He further points out that one of the accusers actually supported the Wolverine Party.
Another article I found about Englander's dirty tricks at U. of MI.
Which reminds me, why the hell didn?t all you troglodytes vote for the FRAT Party? They lost, and that stinks! Instead, Chip Englander went and tried to play the magical election fairy, and got the whole damn Wolverine Party disqualified. I bet Chip still has lots of friends. And how about that Hideki? I like the guy, and as soon as he learns how to speak English, I bet he?ll make a damn fine student body President.
And finally, since we?re talking about student bodies, I?d like to congratulate the beautiful girls of Delta Gamma on winning Greek Week. They were paired with another sorority, Pi Kappa Alpha (yes, retards, this is a joke), and like Chip Englander, they like to go around pretending they?re fairies.
My analysis was:
Could it be that Chip Englander is a veteran political dirty trickster, who's gay connections were exploited by the Democrats to blackmail closet Republican gay politicians?
Maybe this is where Edmund met Englander and told him of the IM logs with Foley?
We're talking about the same bunch that managed to get away with stealing over 900 FBI files.
Limburger smells better than this whole story. The only people worse that Foley himself are those who are trying to make political gains from it by protecting a child molester for maximum media damage.
--Watchdog Group Disputes FBI's Claims on E-Mails--
Liberal Newspaper Ignores Democratic Political Motivations Behind Page Sex Scandal
'watchdog'??? More like 'attack dog'!!
"The only people worse that Foley himself are those who are trying to make political gains from it by protecting a child molester for maximum media damage."
It almost looks as though Rep. Foley was a fool for resigning in the first place - everyone's overlooking him now.
No, of course he doesn't know a thing, not a thing... like Saddam Hussein, he just delegated his dirty deeds to the dirtiest folks and let them do what came natural for them...
....To the extent that the Shadow Party can be said to have an official launch date, July 17, 2003 probably fits the bill. On that day, a team of political strategists, wealthy donors, leftwing labor leaders and other Democrat activists gathered at Soros Southampton beach house on Long Island. Aside from Soros, the most noteworthy attendee was Morton H. Halperin. Soros had hired Halperin in February 2002, to head the Washington office of his tax-exempt Open Society Institute part of Soros global network of Open Society institutes and foundations located in more than 50 countries around the world. Given Halperins history, the appointment revealed much about Soros political goals.
Halperin has a long and controversial track record in the world of Washington intrigue, dating back to the Johnson Administration. Journalists sympathetic to Halperins leftwing sentiments give him high marks for blowing the whistle on the Vietnam War, but his activism helped undermine Americas war effort and contributed to the Communist victory.
The Johnson Defense Department placed Halperin in charge of compiling a secret history of U.S. involvement in Vietnam, based on classified documents. This secret history later emerged into public view as the so-called Pentagon Papers. Halperin and his deputy Leslie Gelb assigned much of the writing to leftwing opponents of the war, such as Daniel Ellsberg who, despite his background as a former Marine and a military analyst for the Rand Corporation, was already evolving into a New Left radical. In his memoir, Secrets, Ellsberg admits to concluding, as early as 1967, that, we were not fighting on the wrong side; we were the wrong side in the Vietnam War.  Evidently Ellsberg had come to view Ho Chi Minhs Communist regime as the wave of the future.
With Halperins tacit encouragement and perhaps active collusion Ellsberg stole the secret history and released it to The New York Times, which published the documents as The Pentagon Papers in June 1971.This was a violation of the Espionage Act, which forbids the removal of classified documents from government buildings. Not surprisingly, The Pentagon Papers echoed Halperins long-standing position that the Vietnam War was unwinnable, and ridiculed Presidents Kennedy and Johnson for stubbornly refusing to heed those of their advisors who shared this opinion. It marked a turning point in Americas failed effort to keep Indo-China from falling to the Communists. The government dropped its case against Ellsberg as Nixons power collapsed during the Watergate intrigues.
Halperin went on to become the director of the American Civil Liberties Union from 1984 to 1992 and head of its "National Security Archives." From this position, he waged open war against U.S. intelligence services, through the courts and the press, seeking to strip the government of virtually any power to investigate, monitor or obstruct subversive elements and their activities. It did not take long for Halperin to go the next logical step and argue for abolishing Americas intelligence services altogether. Using secret intelligence agencies to defend a constitutional republic is akin to the ancient medical practice of employing leeches to take blood from feverish patients. The intent is therapeutic, but in the long run the cure is more deadly than the disease, Halperin wrote in his 1976 book, The Lawless State: The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies.
In a March 21, 1987 article in The Nation, Halperin expanded on this theme and, like Ellsberg, took the position that America was the real villain in the Cold War. He wrote, Secrecy does not serve national security. Covert operations are incompatible with constitutional government and should be abolished. This was a call for unilateral disarming of our intelligence services to match the universal disarmament of our military which has long been a staple of the radical agenda.
Evidently, Soros wishes Halperin to continue his war on Americas intelligence services. According to an Open Society Institute press release, one of Halperins principal assignments on the Soros team is to battle post-September 11 policies that threaten the civil liberties of Americans. 
--- Andrea Pringle, George Soros Opens Washington Office: Wants Open Society Institute to Have Added Impact on Policy (press release), Open Society Institute, Washington DC, 10 June 2002 ....
------- "The Shadow Party: Part I," By David Horowitz and Richard Poe, FrontPageMagazine.com, October 6, 2004