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Istook aide to cooperate with inquiry
The Oklahoman ^ | 10/06/2006 | Nolan Clay and Michael McNutt

Posted on 10/06/2006 5:48:26 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl

A former congressional page is willing to talk to the FBI and the U.S. House Ethics Committee about former Rep. Mark Foley, his attorney said Thursday.

He will answer fully and truthfully any questions put to him,” attorney Stephen Jones said.

Jordan Edmund, 21, has been working on Republican Rep. Ernest Istook’s gubernatorial campaign. Istook, of Warr Acres, admitted Thursday at a hastily called news conference the scandal has affected his campaign.

“Things are a distraction, but it doesn’t stop the momentum that we’ve been gaining,” Istook said.

Foley, a Florida Republican, resigned from Congress last week after it was learned he had exchanged lurid messages over the Internet with former male pages. Foley later admitted through his attorney he had made the exchanges and blamed alcohol.

Foley also revealed publicly for the first time he is gay but denied being a pedophile. He specifically denied through his attorney any sexual contact with minors.

ABC News first reported the story and posted on its Web site excerpts of the Internet exchanges.

Edmund’s name became public after an Oklahoma-based blogger identified him after discovering his screen name on ABC News’ Web site. ABC News admitted Thursday it had made a mistake.

A former congressional page is willing to talk to the FBI and the U.S. House Ethics Committee about former Rep. Mark Foley, his attorney said Thursday.

In an excerpt attributed by the blogger as sent to Edmund, Foley allegedly said “strip down and get relaxed.”

Istook criticized the media Thursday for naming the campaign aide. Istook did not directly confirm the aide “may have been a victim of the wrongful behavior” of Foley.

However, Istook said he urged the man “to cooperate fully with law enforcement and the House Ethics Committee.”

He also said, “This is a young man who is bright and hardworking. He does not deserve the public embarrassment that he now faces. ... What he needs and deserves is Christian compassion.”

Istook said the aide’s status with the campaign “will be determined as we go along.”

Jones said Edmund has done nothing wrong.

“Jordan was a minor when the alleged events described in the media occurred,” Jones said. “He retained me ... to guide and assist him through a difficult investigative and media onslaught because he thought I might be able to help him.

“Jordan has authorized me to say that if he has any relevant information on the matters involving Congressman Foley, he will voluntarily present it to any appropriate official authority.”

Jones has experience with high-profile cases. He defended Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

Jones confirmed he has been in contact with the FBI and that Edmund has left Oklahoma. Jones, a $5,000 contributor to Istook, said he is not being paid by the Istook campaign.

ABC News reported Foley had Internet sex with the former page before a vote. In one exchange, Foley wrote, “I miss you lots since san diego.” Edmund is from the San Diego area.

Also, ABC News reported some exchanges were in April 2003, when Edmund would have been 18.

Jones said he could not yet discuss the Internet messages. He also would not say whether Foley and Edmund ever met outside Congress.

Jones said, “He was a page in the House of Representatives his junior year in high school at the same time Mr. Foley was a member of Congress. So he met most, if not all, of the Republican members of the House. And I’m sure he met quite a few Democrats. That’s how they would know each other.”

He declined to make Edmund available for interviews. “He’s not going to appear on any television talk show, interview, radio,” Jones said.

The attorney disputed as “a piece of fiction” a report on a widely viewed Internet site, The Drudge Report, that Edmund’s exchanges with Foley were a prank by the page.

Jones said, “There is not any aspect of this matter that is a practical joke nor should anyone treat it that way.”

Edmund described himself on the popular MySpace.com Internet site as the deputy campaign manager for Istook and a political science major at the University of California at Berkeley.

“Politics is my passion. I love the game,” he wrote.

He also described himself as a U.S. House page from September 2001 to June 2002. He said he is straight.

His father is a retired doctor while his mother is a schoolteacher, a friend said.

“He’s a really neat guy,” said friend Jessee Harwell, 21, of Fullerton, Calif. “He told me that he was in Washington and that he enjoyed it a lot and that he learned a lot. ... He’s, like, diehard into politics.”

Edmund worked two summers during high school at an ice cream shop in Carlsbad, Calif., the shop’s manager said.

“He’s a good kid,” manager Ruth Hall said. “He’s quiet.”

Istook, who is leaving Congress after 14 years, repeated Thursday he was unaware of Foley’s “sad and sick behavior” until last week.

“How would I have known, how would I have intercepted somebody’s private communications?” Istook asked.

Istook said he first learned Wednesday one of Foley’s victims may be someone that he knew.

“My reaction was to try to find out what’s going on,” Istook said. “I have no personal knowledge of what the House leadership knew or didn’t know. I’m glad that we’re looking into that.

“I realize we live in an era when people want an instant answer,” he said. “They want everything to be resolved immediately. We should not have the press or anybody else trying to pressure people to jump to conclusions.”

Istook dismissed as “nonsense” a question that presidential adviser Karl Rove, who will appear Monday night in Oklahoma City to raise money for Istook’s campaign, recommended he hire Edmund.

Chris Wilson of Wilson Research Strategies said Thursday he recommended last year that Istook hire Chip Englander, a Californian, as campaign manager.

Wilson, whose company serves as consultant to Istook’s campaign, said the campaign manager usually hires his staff.

Democratic Gov. Brad Henry was campaigning Thursday afternoon in El Reno and Yukon. He declined to comment, said Paul Sund, a Henry spokesman.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foley; foleygate; istook; jordanedmund
Check this quote from the Oklahoma Democratic Party Chairman. We'll see how many thousands of times the Rats and the media reinforce the word 'victim' today.

Lisa has her marching orders on this one, it's pretty clear.

What they say
Democrats

Oklahoma Democratic Party Chairman Lisa Pryor said Thursday a former U.S. House page who may be part of the scandal involving a former Florida congressman is “an unfortunate victim of predatory behavior that’s been covered up by the (U.S. House) Republican leadership.”

“My heart goes out to him. He’s the victim. He’s not the story,” Pryor said of the former page who is working in the campaign of U.S. Rep. Ernest Istook, R-Warr Acres.

“This is about corruption. It’s about a cover-up almost as egregious as the initial behavior,” Pryor said

1 posted on 10/06/2006 5:48:27 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: JustaCowgirl
It's now starting to look like not a prank but a money making book deal for young Jordon Edmund.

Apparently the “prank‚” may lead to more revelations such as a “book deal” that some of pages were hoping to get, a kind of “Capital Hill 90210. What would “sauce” the offer up more than to have a “learing pervert congressman” in the script?

Macsmind

Macsmind provides an message board conversation from 2004 between pages talking about the book deal.
2 posted on 10/06/2006 5:53:57 AM PDT by Republican Red ("There’s God, then there’s the president and then there’s my father.”- 6 yr old Jack Ro)
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To: JustaCowgirl
Chris Wilson of Wilson Research Strategies said Thursday he recommended last year that Istook hire Chip Englander, a Californian, as campaign manager.

There's confirmation of the Chris Wilson connection, as rumored yesterday.

And implication that Englander is the one who hire Edmund (as speculated).

And we learn Istook's campaign isn't paying Edmund's legal bill.

And apparently Drudge's "prank gone bad" angle is coming from persons other than Edmund and Jones (his attorney).

3 posted on 10/06/2006 5:55:53 AM PDT by LikeLight (RYMB)
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To: Republican Red

Wow. Interesting relevation, that. More background on the "innocent pages."


4 posted on 10/06/2006 5:58:45 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: Republican Red

Interesting, no doubt ABC will be all over this /sarc


5 posted on 10/06/2006 6:03:41 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs
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To: LikeLight

One thing that seems clear is that Edmund could have put a stop to this at any time by failing to respond. I have seen no evidence that indicates that Foley was in a position to force his attentions on this kid at any time.

Why didn't Edmund stop it? He's going to have to come up with an explanation beyond 'I was a victim.' If it wasn't a prank, then it was something else.


6 posted on 10/06/2006 6:05:01 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: JustaCowgirl
Jones said, “He was a page in the House of Representatives his junior year in high school at the same time Mr. Foley was a member of Congress. So he met most, if not all, of the Republican members of the House. And I’m sure he met quite a few Democrats. That’s how they would know each other.”

So he is admitting he gave or let Dems see the IM's to dems??

7 posted on 10/06/2006 6:05:03 AM PDT by Mo1 (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - BECOME A MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: JustaCowgirl; PhiKapMom

Perhaps the high-power legal help was to negotiate "turning state's evidence."

Hmmmm.


8 posted on 10/06/2006 6:06:35 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Mo1
McHenry Calls The Big Bluff (Pelosi refuses to testify under oath over Foley communications
9 posted on 10/06/2006 6:07:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: JustaCowgirl
Let me get this straight.

The kid is not gay but has cyber sex with a gay congressman but is is not a prank. So what is it?

The congressman is gay but not a pedophile but participates in the exchange with the kid. So what is he? Not adding up for me.
10 posted on 10/06/2006 6:09:05 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Mo1

I don't read that quote as admitting that he gave the IMs to Dems. They're just laying down cover.

What it DOES acknowledge though is that Foley and Edmund had no special contact while Edmund was in Washington. This whole thing is apparently about long-distance exchanges via the internet.


11 posted on 10/06/2006 6:15:56 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: super7man
The kid is not gay but has cyber sex with a gay congressman but is is not a prank. So what is it?

Exactly my question. Methinks the day will come when this man is going to have to explain himself.

12 posted on 10/06/2006 6:19:39 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: JustaCowgirl
“Things are a distraction, but it doesn’t stop the momentum that we’ve been gaining,” Istook said.

This has to be the biggest lie of the week!

13 posted on 10/06/2006 6:20:04 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Petronski
Perhaps the high-power legal help was to negotiate "turning state's evidence."

Hmmmm indeed. We shall see.

14 posted on 10/06/2006 6:20:51 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: TommyDale
This has to be the biggest lie of the week!

Isn't that the truth. Maybe it's momentum heading toward the cliff.

15 posted on 10/06/2006 6:22:17 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Except for the bit about San Diego.....


16 posted on 10/06/2006 6:23:14 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: expatpat

Good point. Is there evidence they actually met physically in San Diego?

'Met physically' Ewwwwww.


17 posted on 10/06/2006 6:24:55 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Did you note how he loves "the game"? That's what it is to him, a game. How much of all of this is a "game"?


18 posted on 10/06/2006 6:28:03 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: JustaCowgirl
This article on another thread had Chris Wilson saying that Chip Englander. 25 was one of the best campaign managers, but he couldn't name a campaign that Englander worked on!!!

CHRIS WILSON ALERT.....Istoook has been TAKEN!!!

19 posted on 10/06/2006 6:31:51 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: pepperdog
Did you note how he loves "the game"? That's what it is to him, a game. How much of all of this is a "game"?

Good question. I have a feeling it's all been a 'game' up until now. He may get the feeling soon of what can happen when you think your 'game' is ready for the big stage.

20 posted on 10/06/2006 6:32:23 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Could you give some background on Chris Wilson? I really know nothing about him.

I frankly don't find it hard to think that Istook has been taken. Not hard at all.


21 posted on 10/06/2006 6:34:13 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Yep.... Istook is going to have a lot of free time to spend with his family after November 7th.


22 posted on 10/06/2006 6:36:14 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: JustaCowgirl
That's just it. Edmund wasn't an unwilling participant by any means. Anyone who can read can see that he was a willing participant, controlling the direction of the conversation in some instances.
If his lawyer says it wasn't a prank, than what is it? Edmund says he isn't gay, then what is he? Obviously he enjoys intimate conversation with gays.

I'd like to know what the other pages who were part of at least some of these contacts with Foley say about his statements, which apparently contradict Edmunds. Now there are 3 more, I wonder if they are the same three that were the first to post on the fake Stop Sexual Predators page, which was obviously set up so Edmunds IM's could be exposed. I wonder, did Edmund himself post those IM's on that site? If not who did? That is the democrat connection to the media. Perhaps those are the "wrong hands" that the IM's fell into in the first place, and who should be along with his co conspirators be the ones investigated for holding onto the information to use as an election ploy.
23 posted on 10/06/2006 6:36:32 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: JustaCowgirl

"He also said, “This is a young man who is bright and hardworking. He does not deserve the public embarrassment that he now faces. ... What he needs and deserves is Christian compassion.”

The truth will set you free!


24 posted on 10/06/2006 6:37:50 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Chris Wilson of Wilson Research is all I know....ANYONE know him??


25 posted on 10/06/2006 6:40:05 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: tobyhill

He thinks Edmund is a VICTIM, but he's the PERP!!!


26 posted on 10/06/2006 6:43:34 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Last I checked he was still 18 at the time of the IMs that we know of.
27 posted on 10/06/2006 6:46:20 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

What thead has that news about Chris Wilson?


28 posted on 10/06/2006 6:48:05 AM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME----You need FR, you know you do, so how about donating??)
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To: tobyhill
aparently there are others from before he was 18, but I have only seen the one. Have you read the macmind link yet? There is a new posting there, Foley Setup? - Part XIII - Zoo Crew The scam is coming apart at the seams for CREW on the Foley Setup:
29 posted on 10/06/2006 7:02:26 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Txsleuth

Hi Sleuth!

I know I saw info on Chris Wilson on a thread, but don't remember which one right now and I need to run to get ready for work.

It might have been on this one, but, even if it isn't, there's info on here about Istook and the kids working in his office (among other things) If you haven't seen this thread - you may want to check it out

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713970/posts?q=1&&page=351


30 posted on 10/06/2006 7:06:31 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: JustaCowgirl

we need to take up a collection,
to buy a copy of Edmund's upcoming book.

we could donate it to,
the Lewinsky wing,
of the Clinton library


31 posted on 10/06/2006 7:29:22 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: Nathan Zachary
I haven't seen anything to prove he was under 18 at anytime during the IMs either and I just find it weird that the MSM went from calling him a "minor" to now a "teen". I will read macmind now.
32 posted on 10/06/2006 7:31:27 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Petronski

He is already out of state. Check your freep mail in a minute.


33 posted on 10/06/2006 7:41:31 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! George Allen for President in 2008!)
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To: JustaCowgirl
This story was changed from the original one last night that brings into question the integrity and agenda of Wilson which trust me is not much -- bolded the paragraph that was left out after being originally posted. I had sent the original to Miss Marple and found it along with it appearing on another site in OK with the original last paragraph:

Chris Wilson, of Wilson Research Strategies, said Thursday he recommended last year that Istook hire Chip Englander, a Californian, as campaign manager.

Wilson, whose company serves as consultant to Istook’s campaign, said the campaign manager usually hires his staff.

“Chip is a very well-known campaign manager, one of the best going into this cycle,” said Wilson, who couldn’t recall Thursday which previous campaigns Englander, 25, worked on.

My comment: This kid is NO Victim!

34 posted on 10/06/2006 8:08:34 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! George Allen for President in 2008!)
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To: Republican Red
"As part of that project, the authors have asked me to post a questionaire for them that hopefully everyone can fill out and return to them, and i have done so. The file may be accessed http://www.pagealumni.us/pagequestions.rtf. Posted by: loraditchm Nov 21 2004, 07:42 AM"

Google loraditchm. Let me know if you find anything interesting.

35 posted on 10/06/2006 8:13:37 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1714819/posts?page=35#35


36 posted on 10/06/2006 8:17:05 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: PhiKapMom
My comment: This kid is NO Victim!

Absolutely agree. He's getting a crash course in victimology right now. I hope that somewhere, somehow, he is required to explain what his motivations really were in stringing these episodes out and keeping it going with Foley.

37 posted on 10/06/2006 8:33:47 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Check out this link to read about the father of Englander who turns out to be a less than honorable campaign consultant in LA:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714665/posts?page=66#66


38 posted on 10/06/2006 8:40:35 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! George Allen for President in 2008!)
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To: JustaCowgirl
LOL!

I've been looking for that evidence also. I haven't found anything, besides that one reference in the IM about "missing you since san diego"

39 posted on 10/06/2006 8:49:27 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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To: Suzy Quzy
Chris Wilson Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Wilson Research Strategies
40 posted on 10/06/2006 10:39:28 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: JustaCowgirl
the Englander family connection
41 posted on 10/06/2006 10:41:17 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse

Thanks for the info, anymouse. I'll look at it as soon as I can.


42 posted on 10/06/2006 5:28:45 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Bill Clinton is sticking his finger in the dike, holding back the tide of history.)
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To: PhiKapMom

"Q: Weren't there some allegations of sexual harassment that came out against Conroy during that race?

A: Yes there were. And we helped fuel them. That's what a good campaign does.

Q: But isn't that dirty campaigning?

A: All we were doing was taking stuff that was already in the papers up in Sacramento and making sure that the voters knew about it. Mickey Conroy certainly wasn't going to tell the voters about it. This was all readily available information. But in the world of politics, you don't assume that just because it's appeared in print somewhere that everybody knows about it. You keep reminding people of the good stuff about your candidate and the negative stuff readily available about your opponent."

Wow, that one caught my eye!


43 posted on 10/07/2006 8:48:04 AM PDT by angelsonmyside (Why won't Nancy talk now?)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; Iowa Granny
I spent quite a while this morning trying to find ANY info on Chris Wilson other than his biography from his web site. No luck.

I need to be gone a while and won't be here too much until late this evening. PLEASE ping me to anything relevant. ALso if you could ping Iowa Granny, too, who has to be gone today.

44 posted on 10/07/2006 8:57:27 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: PhiKapMom
My comment: This kid is NO Victim!

But it sounds like Istook is standing behind him, at least for the moment. If I were Istook, Edmund would have greeted with a cardboard box when he showed up to work the next day, had his keys taken away and his computer account deleted, supervised by trusted staff while he cleaned out his cube and then marched out of the building. This doesn't make any sense to me at all.

45 posted on 10/07/2006 8:58:57 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Miss Marple; PhiKapMom

MM, I think PKM had info on Wilson which I read late last night.

Perhaps PKM could find it in her post list and ping us both to it again. From the tone of her post which I read last night, PKM doesn't seem to hold Wilson in very high regard.

*hanging head in shame. I've left my MIL in the kitchen to watch the ball game, and here I am FReeping. But only for just a minute ;>)*


46 posted on 10/07/2006 9:09:32 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
Thanks. I finally have control of the computer for a few minutes while a Scooby-Doo movie is on. We have been playing games on this all afternoon, after a trip to the local orchard.

I am trying to catch up and fear I am going to get lost again.

47 posted on 10/07/2006 4:40:28 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

Well, the action clearly is NOT on this thread.

I had some time this afternoon after I took MIL home and before I went to Mass.

Let me to some checking on the threads I bookmarked. I'll ping you to the new stuff I find.


48 posted on 10/07/2006 5:35:10 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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