Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Weekend Show *Preview* for 10/7 - 10/8/06 (not the live thread)
Network and Cable News Networks | 10/6/05 | Network and Cable News

Posted on 10/06/2006 5:32:15 PM PDT by Phsstpok

Preview and analysis for Weekend Talk Shows, 10-1-06 and 10-8-06

It's week five of the drive by media campaign to win back power in Washington for those who truly deserve it (in their minds), the Dhimmicrats.  This week the attention shifts away from President Bush, because their lame but continuous attacks were beginning to work for him.  Instead they are starting to point out to the ignorant boobs out there that the Republicans are really the party of homo values, kiddie porn, dirty talk and probably worse things, like drugs or even (horrors) rock and roll!  They fully expect all right thinking conservatives (particularly those really stupid ones, you know, the Christians) to run away screaming and never support a Republican again.  I think this scandal was set off about two weeks early and, if I'm right, it shows a high degree of desperation on the part of the party of Michael Moore.  Not only weren't their attacks on Bush having the desired affect of "sealing the deal" for the dims, they were actually beginning to lose ground.  The counter attacks by Bush and company on Iraq and the war on terror were a big part of it, but the biggest effect was coming from the drumbeat about who would be in charge if the Republicans get thrown out.  The thought of a Speaker Pelosi or a Chairman Rangel just was too much for most Americans to take.  Therefore, they needed to change the subject and fast.  Unfortunately they did this clumsily and way too soon.  The effect, if any, will have worn off long before election day and, in fact, the blowback might end up damaging the Soros/Clinton war machine most of all.

NBC Meet The Press has the fourth installment in their Senate debate series.  This time it's Talent versus McCaskill for the seat Talent currently holds from Missouri.  This is being touted as the "bell weather" race to watch on election night.  If the Republicans can't hold this seat then they'll lose control of the Senate, "they" say.  Talent has maintained a slight lead in all but the most tortured and tilted polls, but they keep plugging away and dumping millions of campaign dollars gathered from their billionaire sugar daddies via 527s.  Reportedly they are even crossing the line and illegally using Democrat party resources in prohibited ways to support the McCaskill campaign (damn that CFR!).  McCaskill seems to be an ineffective candidate, so watch for lil Timmah to carry more of the Dhimmicrat water against Talent in this weeks "debate."  Following the Timmah/McCaskill tag team assault on Talent they'll try to resurrect the flagging fortunes of Bob Woodward's new book (which is losing big time to... OMG... O'Reilly!).  Woodward was supposed to have at least a week where he "dominated the news cycle" to build up his book sales, provide fodder for the drive by media (DBM) and been given an opportunity to restore his reputation for bashing Republicans.  Unfortunately the premature launch of La Cage aux Foley (hat tip for the phrase of the week to JER) has ruined that plan and Woodward clearly sees a future in the remainder bin for his latest tome.  The usual suspects will try to revive this turkey.  I give them little or no chance.  "OK, so ten out of ten for style, but minus several million for good thinking, yeah?"  (apologies to Zaphod Beeblebrox).

CBS Face The Nation offers us a B team of minor leaguers from the House with Davis (R, VA) and LaHood (D, IL) squaring off over le affair Foley.  The inclusion of LaHood will give them the chance to question the fate of Speaker Hastert, also of Illinois.  Schieffer is joined by the Washington Post's political band director to try to get a little oompah out of the old dinosaur media tuba section.  Watch for a lot of declarative statements and not much in the way of enlightenment or information.

Fox News Sunday provides a "panel of experts" to discuss the Foley scandal which is made up of a spectrum of "good" to "bad" conservatives.  Representative Jack Kingston (R, GA) is the sole member of Congress listed and he has come out forcefully in support of Speaker Hastert.  He has also called for Pelosi, Emanuel, Dean and other Democrats to testify under oath about what they knew and when they knew it regarding the potential crimes involved in Foley's nasty behavior.  They then bring on the "bad conservative" Tony Perkins (Family Research Council).  Perkins has committed the ultimate sin of being a Christian who actually dares to think that Foley's

sexuality and proclivity for preying on boys is relevant to the discussion.  Not real informative, but helpful for the DBM sound bite brigade, I'm sure (unless Perkins gets really, really smart and messes with them).  David Bossie (Citzens United) is trotted out as a conservative voice calling for Hastert's head (he will be celebrated in song and story by the drive by media) and Laura Ingraham, who may or may not be out for Republican blood.  That makes it a panel of four conservatives, 2 to 1 against the Republicans, with one "easily dismissed religious fanatic."  Chris Wallace's Coming Up on 'FOX News Sunday' piece speaks about there being discussions "with key congressional leaders," but no names are listed, other than Kingston.  We'll have to see.  Could it be a surprise list of guests not revealed to give the opposition a chance to counter program?

ABC This Week brings on the A team partisan pairing for the Foley scandal with the heads of the Republican  and Democrat House campaign committees, Tom Reynolds (R, NY) and Rahm Emanuel (D, IL).  If the Republicans were going to go with the aggressive strategy of calling out the Soros/Clinton war room over the Foley scandal this would be the place to do it, but ABC has made sure that Reynolds is damaged goods in this regard and he may well be checkmated from pursuing this tack with Emanuel.  This is because one of the most likely sources (according to "leaks" from ABC (Brian Ross, no doubt) and assorted Dhimmicrat sources) of the incriminating emails and instant messages is Reynolds' gay chief of staff, who is Foley's former chief of staff, Kirk Fordham (Blackmail target of Mike Rogers, but ABC won't mention that).  Also, Reynolds is said to have "convinced" Foley not to retire and therefore "keep this seat Republican," which is now being portrayed as the ultimate act of political cynicism.  Fordham will be the "guest who speaks but is not on the shows" this week, as quotes from him will shower down like a bad thunderstorm, particularly on this show.  Reynolds is a clear target of ABC's plan in this whole thing.  If they can't get Hastert they'll be happy to settle for Reynolds.  And to complete the trifecta for ABC their next guest, James Baker, has a new book and a "bipartisan report" that bashes the Bush policy in Iraq.  He will probably be kept away from the Foley controversy as he has come out strongly against "sacrificing" Speaker Hastert this week (good imagery about throwing someone off the sled to keep the wolves at bay).  My great hope is that they've once again misunderstimated the Bush strategery because Bush is the one who appointed Baker to the Bipartisan Iraq Study Group which issued the "critical report" on Iraq.  Some on the left are beginning to smell a Rovian plot and warn of Bush's own October surprise and many tie it to the recommendations coming out of this group (see show links for some of the silliness).  Right now Baker is being feted by the drive by media and the left because he's criticizing Bush's policy, but what if Bush takes the Study Group's advice?  Bada Bing, Bada Boom!  This Sunday might tell the tale on that.  I will look at Baker's appearance on This Week with a magnifying glass.  George Will, Cokie Roberts and Fareed Zakaria will be called on by Steponallofus to "explain" the true significance (read "doom for the evil Republicans") of all of this in the roundtable segment.  ABC is working hard to pay back their Clintonian Overlords for daring to show that awful "Path to 9/11" thingy, dontcha know?

CNN Late Edition trots out the Iraqi foreign minister, no doubt to ask him to confess that our Iraq policy is a disaster and that we've actually made things worse since toppling Saddam, who was truly harmless, after all.  I think that is a minor, almost pro-forma part of the show this week.  Cornyn (R, TX) is set to face off with Biden (D, DE) over all things to do with foreign policy, including the border fence and middle east policy.  Biden is pushing the old Europe like "let's divide Iraq" plan and I think Cornyn will gut him like a fish over this issue, if given a chance.  Cornyn's cynical statements about funding for the border fence will be used as a starting point for the discussion of that issue, which puts him on the defensive and lets Biden pontificate about how evil and racist Republican immigration policy is while also claming that Dhimmicrats have a real plan to protect our borders (no doubt he wants to eliminate our borders, then they can't be threatened, of course).  The co-authors of the new political book "The Way to Win: Taking the White House in 2008" will work to position themselves as good members of the DBM, since they are being criticized by the MoveOn left over whatever conclusions they draw in their book.  My guess is that they argue that to win you have to support America against those who want to destroy America, which Dean, Pelosi and Moore would of course find objectionable.  Watch for fierce anti-Bush spinning with very little reference to what's really in the book.  CNN's Dana Bash has also been criticized from the left for her recent reporting, primarily that it wasn't sufficiently slanted against Bush (she bothered to include facts, which messed up the narrative they wanted to achieve).   Wolfe will give her the opportunity to correct those "errors."  And then they offer up Ted Turner's idea of a "real" conservative, Pat Buchanan, in all his wild eyed, racist and jingoistic glory.  Wolfe will give him a free field of fire to attack Bush while still spouting off offensive comments that they will then try to tie to all conservatives, especially Bush.  It's a win-win for the MoveOn crowd, and good ol' Pat has filled this role faithfully for years.

With the exception of the Journal Editorial Report I am singularly uninterested in the Saturday shows this week.  Mort and Fred are really getting tiresome with their inside the beltway conventional wisdom.  I long ago decided that this isn't a "conventional wisdom" election, good or bad for us, and they just keep on keeping on with the same old tired analysis.  Russert's Danforth hagiography will likely be truly offensive.  I wonder if Timmah will ask him about his uber liberal US church leaders rejecting the Bible, at least as far as the leaders of his church in the rest of the world are concerned (except dhimmi England, of course)?  Nah!  Fox News Watch is simply boring, as their "defend journalists at all cost regardless of any fraud" approach is way too predictable at this point and totally uninteresting.  When Neal Gabler is the only voice remotely interesting on this show you know they're in trouble.  I keep saying that Fox should turn this into an hour, give half to the guys from Media Research Center and half to the Soros moonbats from Media Matters and let them have at it, with a panel of adults to hose down the rhetoric between segments.  Now that would draw an audience!  But JER may redeem Saturday for reasoning hominids.  They deal with the Foley mess, but it appears to be a throwaway for them.  They're real focus is American demographics, like Social Security a controversial topic that everyone simply wants to ignore but one which will clearly affect all of our lives far more than almost anything else on the world stage today.  Bravo, folks.  Let's hope it starts a meaningful dialogue on this complex and important topic.  Wait, what am I thinking.  This is dinosaur media TV (even if it is cable).  They will be a lonely voice, crying in the wilderness.  Noble effort, but will anyone notice?

So, what's the bottom line this week?  This is a week of frantic spin where the DBM and the Dhimmicrats try to frame yet another new "winning argument" to replace their latest "losing argument" (number 974).  Watch for lots of declarations of victory for the forces of Soros that ring increasingly hollow.  The question at this point is how desperate will they be to shut down the investigation if it dares to look at "what the Dhimmicrats knew and when they knew it."  Several senior members of the moonbat left may be seriously at risk over this whole Foley affair.  I'll be interested to see how the gay community ends up reacting to being used as a stalking horse and sacrificial lamb in this way.  I've talked before about a potential sea change in racial politics coming out of this election.  Could there be a sea change in the politics of sexual orientation?  Will the Log Cabin Republican types (R and D?) realize and communicate that Republicans may not approve of their lifestyle or agenda, but they don't want to set them up for lynching, while Nancy Pelosi isn't averse to that as a tactic, so long as it buys her power?  The ultimate denouement of this part of "la cage aux Foley" may be whether Mike Rogers is investigated (dare I say indicted?) for having blackmailed a gay Republican Senator (reportedly over the Alito vote, which would probably make the target Lincoln Chaffee).  If he faces serious jail time for that little bit of political theater (which he has trumpeted publicly) what doors might he kick open?  I wonder if he knows where Fort Marcy Park is?

This has been cross posted to my blog at Wizards.townhall.com. This post exists primarily as a heads up for who is on the weekend talks shows, what they've been invited on to push (based on their recent pronouncements) and the spin (meme) the DBM is likely trying to push based on that information. All of this is prep work for the weekly Sunday Morning Talk Show thread posted by Alas Babylon!. That thread provides a live commentary and analysis of the Sunday talking head shows, with rare insight and exceptional fact checking. we are the Jedi Council of FreeRepublic, at least in regards to these DBM gabfests. You wanna know what was said and what it meant, as well as where they messed up? Read that thread!

I'll post a link to Mark Kilmer's excellent preview of the Sunday shows over at RedState.COM when it is up.

I'll also post a link to this Sunday's live thread here when it is up.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abcthisweek; bds; biden; buchanan; cnnlateedition; cornyn; danabash; emanuel; facethenation; foxnewssunday; guests; hoshyarzebari; jamesbaker; johncornyn; johnfharris; josephbiden; markhalperin; meetthepress; patbuchanan; rahmemanuel; sundaytalkshows; tomreynolds
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last
Saturday Shows for 10-7-06

Below are the topics and guests announced for these programs, along with my take on the "memes" that the shows are trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.

The Beltway Boys (Mort Kondracke, Fred Barnes)

CNBC's Tim Russert Show (Tim Russert)

Fox News Watch (Eric Burns)

Journal Editorial Report (Paul Gigot) - FNC show page


1 posted on 10/06/2006 5:32:18 PM PDT by Phsstpok
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: All
NBC Meet The Press (Tim Russert)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


2 posted on 10/06/2006 5:33:25 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
CBS Face The Nation (Bob Schieffer)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


3 posted on 10/06/2006 5:34:34 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
Fox News Sunday (Chris Wallace)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


4 posted on 10/06/2006 5:35:27 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
ABC This Week (George Stephanopoulos)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


5 posted on 10/06/2006 5:36:19 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
CNN Late Edition (Wolf Blitzer)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


6 posted on 10/06/2006 5:36:59 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok

Thanks Phsstpok, I'll try to muddle through this tonight. Or tomorrow. LOL


7 posted on 10/06/2006 5:40:55 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Morgan in Denver

Well, some of the Foley e-mails discussed things such as penis measurements.


So we should conclude that Republicans are closeted gays or perverts who measure male organs. Whereas Democrats would never measure the male parts.


And all of this should influence how we vote because????????/


8 posted on 10/06/2006 5:46:01 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: A.Hun; Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; ...
Ping

The Weekend Talk Show Preview Thread is up

If you would like on or off my ping list please Freepmail me

See the initial post for my "usual witty commentary"

It's week five of the drive by media campaign to win back power in Washington for those who truly deserve it (in their minds), the Dhimmicrats.  This week the attention shifts away from President Bush, because their lame but continuous attacks were beginning to work for him.  Instead they are starting to point out to the ignorant boobs out there that the Republicans are really the party of homo values, kiddie porn, dirty talk and probably worse things, like drugs or even (horrors) rock and roll!  They fully expect all right thinking conservatives (particularly those really stupid ones, you know, the Christians) to run away screaming and never support a Republican again. 

<snip>

So, what's the bottom line this week?  This is a week of frantic spin where the DBM and the Dhimmicrats try to frame yet another new "winning argument" to replace their latest "losing argument" (number 974).  Watch for lots of declarations of victory for the forces of Soros that ring increasingly hollow.  The question at this point is how desperate will they be to shut down the investigation if it dares to look at "what the Dhimmicrats knew and when they knew it."  Several senior members of the moonbat left may be seriously at risk over this whole Foley affair.

Woo hoo!  All I have to do to get my post up on Friday night is to take the day off on Friday!  Wait a minute, that's not a viable solution...! 

Anyway, have at it and sleep well in the knowledge that the terror that is Phsstpok isn't responsible for the Sunday awards until sometime in December!!!!!! 


9 posted on 10/06/2006 5:49:11 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dilbert San Diego

Get a grip.

As repugnant as it is, Foley wrote those emails to an adult, by law. There's a difference between IM and e-mail that seems to get lost on all this too.

Beyond that, wait for the facts to come out instead of jumping to conclusions. We hate it when Democrats do it and it's no better when Republicans do it.


10 posted on 10/06/2006 5:52:28 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok
I'll probably watch FNS and none of the others, no surprise. I am hoping this will be the end of the Foley surprise and we can address important issues. Maybe not, but I hope so.

I fully expect Brit Hume to be the only person this weekend to understand and comment about Foley and what's going on. Foley is gone, Democrats need to get used to that. The Democrats who had knowledge of what really happened are still there and need to be held accountable.

All of the above could be somewhat moot IF the North Koreans launch a missile tomorrow.
11 posted on 10/06/2006 5:57:28 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok

I will check in on Fox News Sunday in order to see how much of a turncoat each of those pseudo-Republicans are. Feh.


12 posted on 10/06/2006 6:34:22 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Morgan in Denver

Good point about the N. Korean missile...but, the dems would just say that Bush told them to...to get the Foley thing out of the news....LOL


13 posted on 10/06/2006 7:35:24 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME----You need FR, you know you do, so how about donating??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok

Hey...I like it when you do the awards...you always are really sweet and manage to find ONE decent post by me..LOL


BTW..I saw on a Fox show tonight...they are advertising Jack Kingston and Marty Meehan on Sunday.

Marty Meehan...the last time he was on Fox...it was BOR, I believe, and I can't remember the topic...but, I remember that Meehan didn't answer even one of Bill's questions...LOL


14 posted on 10/06/2006 7:37:18 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME----You need FR, you know you do, so how about donating??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Dilbert San Diego

And all of this should influence how we vote because????????/

A good question. It seems the Democrat Noise Machine, having decided that references to female homosexuality (aka Mary Cheney in 2004) did not drive us nasty right wing Christian Fundemnatlists running screaming from the Republican Party maybe a story on male homosexuality with a phony child molestation charge worked in would.


15 posted on 10/07/2006 7:30:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Miss Marple
will check in on Fox News Sunday in order to see how much of a turncoat each of those pseudo-Republicans

Is kind of a defining moment for our side. Intresting to note once again the DC-Real world divide. The "Conservatives" most in angst and looking for Hastert's head are mostly inside the Beltway people. The ones outside the belt way have seemed better able to resist getting sucked into the Democrat Noise Machine

16 posted on 10/07/2006 7:35:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: A.Hun; Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; ...
TXSleuth informed me that Marty Meehan has been added to the Fox News Sunday lineup, so here's his info

Still no change on the FNS web site and the news outlets haven't posted their show listings yet, nor has Mark Kilmer.  More if anything comes along.

Thanks, sleuth.

17 posted on 10/07/2006 7:57:28 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok

Wallace admitted Friday they were still working on the lineup so this isn't a surprise, but thanks for the heads up on who it would be.

One guess is more than a few Democrats want to keep a low profile for tomorrow in light of more truth on Foley coming out.


18 posted on 10/07/2006 8:02:21 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: All
Agreed that the Beltway Boys has gotten so predictable it isn't worth the time, and FNW lacks any smidgen of courage. A real examination of BIG media would be worthwhile, but would end party invitations. When the only interesting comments come from Gabler (a liar and a moonbat), it's over.

But there is the JER:They're real focus is American demographics, like Social Security a controversial topic that everyone simply wants to ignore but one which will clearly affect all of our lives far more than almost anything else on the world stage today.

Every thinking person (unfortunately, there are not enough of them) knows Social Security is doomed unless something is done. The President, wisely, wanted to give people the right to keep a small part of the confiscated funds and see how it would work out in the free market. The dems knew that people would like having ownership of some of their money and watching it grow so they couldn't let that happen. If dems ever take charge (please don't let that happen), you will have a reprise of the Clinton's "I had no idea how bad the situation was, and I have no choice but to raise taxes" refrain. And the clobbering of the citizens' pocketbook will be massive.

19 posted on 10/07/2006 9:07:12 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok
I think you hit the nail on the head!

Political purists disturb me, because they have to put political thought into little cubicles of activity and substance, despite the fact that in reality, everyone is different, and can't be so easily categorized.

This is how we can get a Harry Bellafonte calling Colin Powell a "house Negro", Clarance Thomas an "Uncle Tom" or Condi Rice "Bush's sex Negress". You see, in the purist's mind, all blacks MUST think alike. They could never, ever be Republican, unless there was something mentally wrong with them, they hated themselves for being born black, or they hate their race. REAL black people are left-wing democrats just like them, with left-wing biases and demands. Tow the line!

The same line of thought applies to many homosexual activists. To wit, you cannot be a homosexual Republican. Republicans hate fags, and therefore want to murder them like Scot Shepard in Wyoming, or go back to the days when Greasers got their kicks beating up queers. So any outing of gay Republicans is perfectly alright, because they're hypocrites who deserve it.

Republicans, in the purist's minds, since they hate fags, but allow some in the party to secretly be fags, must be using homosexuals to get votes they do not deserve. So dirty tricks against them, lies, half-truths, etc, don't matter; all are perfectly allowable in the war against the RepubliNazis.

If smearing some homosexuals as child molesters, and the Republican leadership as secret supporters/enablers of child molesters gets those evil Republicans out of government then that is obviously a good thing. And sticking it to those homosexuals who have the gall to be Republicans or support the ideals of Republicanism is a wonderful thing, akin to St George slaying the dragon.

This is the attitude that many so-called journalists have, and why they report certain stories the way they do. My thought is that these "journalists" are far more dangerous than the purists, as they act as gatekeeprs to what the rest of us learn (however wrongly) or remain in ignorance thereof, because we're never told.

People like you, and the rest of the "Jedi Council", are absolutely essential in showing the truth, especially to those so-called journalists. That you can do so with humor and laughter makes it all the better. The free press is dying because of these reporters, and it is up to us to kick them off their high horses so that they (or others willing to step up to the task) may become once again what a free press is supposed to be--a free, fair, balanced accounter of what is happening in the world.

20 posted on 10/07/2006 9:37:03 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok

Intresting to watch and see if the National Republicans are smart enough to run with this idea.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1715441/posts


Snip


A Tale of Two Ads ("The real choice this November" - Foley vs. National Security)
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/16/06 | William Kristol


Posted on 10/07/2006 11:45:11 AM CDT by frankjr


"It shocks the conscience. Congressional leaders have admitted covering up the predatory behavior of a congressman who used the Internet to molest children. For over a year, they knowingly ignored the welfare of children to protect their own power. For 17 years, Patty Wetterling has fought for tougher penalties against those who harm children. That's why she's demanding a criminal investigation and the immediate expulsion of any congressman involved in this crime and coverup."

--TV ad on behalf of Patty Wetterling, Democratic candidate in Minnesota's 6th Congressional District

"A call is placed from New York to a known terrorist in Pakistan. A terrorist plot may be unfolding. Should the government intercept that call or wait until the paperwork is filed? Nancy Johnson says: 'Act immediately. Lives may be at stake.' Liberal Chris Murphy says: 'No. Apply for a court warrant even if valuable time is lost.' Chris Murphy -- wrong on security, wrong for America."

--TV ad on behalf of Nancy Johnson, Republican candidate for reelection in Connecticut's 5th Congressional District


21 posted on 10/07/2006 10:36:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: All
Mark Kilmer has posted his preview over at RedState.COM

Posted at 12:42pm on Oct. 7, 2006

The Sunday Morning Talkshows - lineup

By Mark Kilmer

For Sunday, October 8, 2006

Meet the Press (NBC): Host Tim Russert has another face-off, this one between Senator Jim Talent (R-Missouri) and Democrat Claire McCaskill. And then, Bob Woodward will on to hawk his little novel, the one which is now ignored, in the wake of Mark Foley's shenanigans, but is falling apart by the day.

FOX News Sunday (FNS): Host Chris Wallace speaks to Representative Jack Kingson (R-New York) about the "page scandal." Then he speaks with radio talker Laura Ingraham, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, and David Bossie, president of Citizens United. They're covering their conservative bases after two-weeks of Clinton (Bill) Nonstop.

Face the Nation (CBS): Host Bob Schieffer talks pages with two Republicans: Tom Davis of Virginia and Ray LaHood of Illinois.

This Week (ABC): Host George Stephanopoulos talks to NRSC chair Tom Reynolds (R-New York) and DCCC boss and former Clinton (Bill) staffer Rahm Emmanuel (D-Ill) about the "Foley fallout" and the prospects for a Dem triumph this November.

Late Edition (CNN): Host Wolf Blitzer interviews Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, John Cornyn and Joe Biden, a bunch of reporters -- including two hawking a book -- and, of all people, Pat Buchanan, He's also pushing a book.
--------

Going into this, we have to cut these guys some slack. We've put a lot of pixels to the bit with Foley and the pages, but the Sunday morning talkers are playing catchup. They ignored it last week, but now the Dems have had time to lock, load, and aim at Speaker Hastert. The paucity of Dem guests is surprising, Rahm, on Steph's show, is the elections guy who, having worked for Clinton (Bill), won't have a lot of latitude to talk about sex scandals. Joe Biden, on CNN, wants to talk about other things. It's terrible, he's above it, it's trivial: "Look, Wolf..."

If you know of anyone liveblogging Talent vs. McCaskill, let me know and I'll link.

As always, (Phsstpok) has his entertaining talkshow preview up at Free Republic.

I'll have the complete review here at RedState early tomorrow afternoon.

Posted in Comments (1)/ Email this page » / Read More »

 


22 posted on 10/07/2006 11:41:59 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok
I got to say I am getting really irritated with the Insider the Beltway "Conservative" media. Seem they are going to guiltlessly try to be on both sides of the Foley issue. A plague on both sides spin line.

I would love someone to ask one of these people. WHAT should Hastert of done? A Rep comes to him and tells him about 2 emails sent by another Rep to one of his constituents. Remember Hastert is an older male. Imagining he is going to have all the hip late 1990s dogma about how to spot a Sexual Predators down is nonsense. They look into it. The emails are not actionable. They sit the guy down and tell him to knock it off. HE knocks it off. There is NO report of any contact AFTER the warning was issued. Innocent until proven Guilty ISN'T just a slogan.

In the perfect world, what was Hastert suppose to do?

23 posted on 10/07/2006 12:28:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
Hello,

He was supposed try to to run Foley out of Congress for being gay, so that the Libs could attack him as a homophobe, so that they (Libs and DBM) could demand that he resign.

We ended up in the same place via a different path...

Glad to be here, MOgirl
24 posted on 10/07/2006 12:46:57 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: MOgirl

Hope the National Republicans are watching this. This is a brilliant response.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1715525/posts?page=2

A Tale of Two Ads
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/16/06 issue | William Kristol


Posted on 10/07/2006 2:40:27 PM CDT by AmericanExceptionalist


Repelled by former Republican congressman Mark Foley's sexual overtures to congressional pages and ex-pages, and by the House GOP leadership's alleged failure to move aggressively against him? Vote Democratic. Worried about the Demo crats' tendency to coddle jihadists? Vote Republican.


(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


25 posted on 10/07/2006 1:13:45 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
Hello,

Excellent! The Dems pulled the trigger on this too soon. Why? Who knows? But the fact is that they did, and despite the screaming of those here on our local radio ("I am a Rep, and they all knew!!!!!!! I'm voting Dem, I'm staying home, blah, blah, blah..."), I believe that this is not the disaster for the GOP that the Libs/DBM wants it to be.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
26 posted on 10/07/2006 1:27:47 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
Hello,

Gotta run, my SIL is turning 50-something and we have a party to go to ~ keep up the good work!!

Glad to be here, MOgirl
27 posted on 10/07/2006 1:32:38 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok
The Beltway Boys (Mort Kondracke, Fred Barnes)

Could you remind me please... which one is Alphonse and which is Gaston?

28 posted on 10/07/2006 1:56:54 PM PDT by Darth Republican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok

Thanks so much for all the owrk you put into this weeky advisory... love the way you write and read every last word!


29 posted on 10/07/2006 1:58:58 PM PDT by EDINVA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok; AliVeritas; Peach; Morgan in Denver; rodguy911; Bahbah

Get ready for the hysteria and meltdown. Newsweak published a poll today claiming it is all over. Everyone hates the Republicans over Foley, Democrats are going to win 1000 seats we Conservative can all just stay home election day because Newsweak poll shows the game is over.

It pure BS, they withheld their Internals to indicate how many Dems-Reps-Indies they polled and when they polled them but it doesn't matter. The Chicken Littles are having hysterics. Sorry but I guess we are going to find a 50%D-30R-20 "Indepentent" split on this once the pros get done dismateling it. It makes no sense to suggest as many as 1/3 of Republicans are bying the Foley smear job.

If so many Republicans were upset about this and felt this way you would see it here. SOME % of Freepers would be reflecting the attitutes Newsweak is claiming their pollsters are finding. NO one is. Virtually overnight the breech in the Repubulican base has been sealed. Everyone is focused on why they hate the Dems NOT what they are upset with President Bush and the Leadership about.


30 posted on 10/07/2006 2:51:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
If so many Republicans were upset about this and felt this way you would see it here. SOME % of Freepers would be reflecting the attitudes

I believe that is correct. Notwithstanding that this is a "conservative" board, I have seen over time that the spectrum of comments and attitudes, when you weed out the trolls, is pretty reflective of the Republican party generally. If this Foley thing was working at all, we would see it here. LOL. Julie Banderas just called the Phelps woman an "airtime whore." Just thougt I'd mention it.

31 posted on 10/07/2006 2:56:49 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie; Phsstpok; AliVeritas; Peach; rodguy911; Bahbah

Gee, Johnnie, I thought it was all over last week, the week before that and each week before that. For months now, Newsweek and others have been telling us it's all over.

I posted this earlier to Congressman Billy Bob. Frankly, I'm in bragging mode right now because of the comparison between Democrats and Republicans. My efforts now is to get the word out to voters here.

By the way, polls are not done so quickly. My guess is these polls are based on gut, initial reactions and not the true positions of voters once they have the facts and understand the situation. We just can't fall for the hype and we have to let it develop for a week or so before there will be any real indication on voter attitudes. Remember too, almost all these antics backfire on Democrats.

- - - - - - -

I realize the media spin and Democrat accusations but the Foley debacle should be a source of pride for every Republican.

We had an issue and it was dealt with. Rep. Foley resigned and the House Speaker is taking steps to counter this happening again. The Ethics Committee has gotten involved for developing the facts in this case and the FBI has the information to pursue it if there was anything done that was illegal.

Is there any, ANY, question that had Foley been a Democrat they would still be circling the wagons in protecting Foley and calling any criticism homophobia. The Democrats are shameless and for the next thirty days they will be proving that to every voter.


32 posted on 10/07/2006 3:04:20 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Morgan in Denver

I agree with you, Morgan. I am proud of the Republicans too. It should be pretty clear to most people now that sick perverts are not going to be welcomed by the party if they are found out. I have long heard rumors about the promising Kasich and Scarborough being told to get out after certain ugly behavior came to light. It was done quietly, so the modus operandi is not to destroy lives, just to drum you out quietly.

As for the page program, what is it that they are going to "fix?" They are only in loco parentis when actuall in the program. Foley waited until after they left the program to start up his contacts. And there is no evidence he stepped over the line with the minor. The ugly IMs were with an adult male. The page program merely brought those might be of interest to him to his attention. So, do they eliminate the program? Nah, too much a payoff to the politically connected parents. Do they forbid contact between congresspeople and pages and former pages? Getting connected is a very large part of why they do this in the first place. I think I have the answer. Pages will sign a document where they promise to report any icky contacts from any of them at any time. Heh heh. I wonder what foolproof measures the committee will proudly announce with "we have saved the children" flourishes.

Washington, D.C. is a ridiculous place full of ridiculous people. No wonder President Bush doesn't fit in. (End of need to put down random musings.)


33 posted on 10/07/2006 3:45:50 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Bahbah
As for the page program, what is it that they are going to "fix?"

Nothing unless it is not working as it should or being monitored properly.  These pages may be of legal age but congress should hold them accountable to the extent they are capable or vulnerable.  Having said that, I am guessing the IM programs and e-mail system has to be explained better to both pages and House members.  They need to know without any doubt they are being monitored and their messages saved (if that is now available with IM) in case there is a future problem.  We also need consequences for any page that does not report improper behavior or who pulls an improper stunt themselves.

IF the pages were simply pulling a prank maybe they did not know the seriousness of their stunt.  If they did this on purpose, they should pay a price.  If they did not report bad behavior, they were wrong.  If they did not report either improper IM messages or e-mail, they were wrong.  I'm saying both policy and management has to be there. Pages, as well as House members, have to be constantly reminded they will be held accountable for their actions and are responsible for whatever they do or don't do.

It may be there or it may need changed.  Policy and procedures have to be in place and enforced. Whatever is done when they are back home is their problem unless it comes to the attention of the leadership and reflects upon the US House.

Look, I'm not excusing any of these guys.  I think the emphasis has to be on better management by the leadership, that's all.   I believe Speaker Hastert's explanations and I do not think he did anything wrong other than having tougher standards in place.  I'm also realistic enough to know this whole thing might have not been preventable if the people involved were intent on causing the problem and issue.  But, if that's the case, I hope they are charged and jailed for their actions if it harmed the US House or its members.

Too long an answer but I'm not sure how to shorten it.



 

34 posted on 10/07/2006 4:21:07 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Bahbah
Yes, but to get those kind of results as they claim in the Newsweak poll, IF it was an honest poll, a segment of Republicans had to be agreeing with the Democrats. SO if the poll is honest a segment of the Freeper body would be reflecting the same attitudes about the Republicans as the people in the poll supposedly do. Based on the numbers put up by Newsweak, even some of the base Republicans have supposedly bailed over on us.

NOW, since I do NOT see this attitude being reflected by the Freepers, in fact I see a rapid hardening of attitudes against the Left, that would suggest your Republican base is getting PISSED not getting disillusioned as the Newsweak poll suggest. There anger at the GOP Leadership is shifting, thanks to the 'Rat campaigning, to THEM

So what does that mean? It's a push poll. Designed to drive a story line. Easiest way to do it is screw with the Rep-Democrat-Indep sample mix to way over represent Dems.

IF opinions this volatile, the same dynamic can work for Repbos. It is just like on Katerina or Bush National Guard, the longer the story spun the more and more facts came out that nuked the Democrats spin lies. That you see no segment of the Freeper population siding with the Democrats seems to indicate the Conservative base is pretty solid.
35 posted on 10/07/2006 4:25:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Morgan in Denver
You know in watching the spin on Iraq the Democrats are running, I think we can define the American Public as P.A.D.D. Police Attention Deficit Disorder.

We are currently winning in Iraq right now. Problem is thanks to the Junk Media and the Treason of the Democrat Party Leadership most Americans have no clue how well the mission is actually going.

It is incredibly odd how Democrats, via their mouthpieces in the Junk Media, demand a level of perfection in Military operations that NO Journalist or Politician could ever live up to in their own professional spheres. Odd how Americans, who live with a very high level of incompetent in their government, their media, their day to day lives are so surprised and upset to discover war does work on a perfectly flawless time table. They seem to think war sould work like their two hour Hollywood action movies told them it did. 2 Hours, bad guys dead, sympathy frag of supporting actor, hero gets girl and lives happily ever after. These absurd expectations explain how it is Americans get "war weary" so very very rapidly. It is one of the biggest Achilles heels of US Foreign Policy. Our foes count on us getting bored with it all and just going home. I guess we could call it the America's Policy Attention Deficit Disorder.

Counter Terrorism (or Counter Insurgency) is as much about politics as it is about war. Conventional Military often find them incredibly frustrating because they are usually a case of 3 steps forward, 2 steps back, pause, repeat. Conventional Military people think in terms of go there, kill them, wreck their stuff, make them stop pissing us off. Counter Insurgency does not work that way. Counter Insurgency works by making the local political structure strong enough to contain or beak the Insurgency. THAT is a slow painful process.

It is made a lot hard in Iraq by the hyper negative Media coverage and excessive nonsense spewed out by Domestic Politicians using the war because they think it will help them politically. I suspect that if we win Nov 7th, the Iraq mission is won. By 2009 the Iraqis political structure will be strong enough to stand on its own with minimal US support. Probably Iraq security forces stiffened with US SOF support teams.

36 posted on 10/07/2006 4:31:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie

Opps typo, in 1st line Police should be Policy


37 posted on 10/07/2006 4:35:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok

I look forward to your posting this every week...thanks so much. Have to LOL at it.


38 posted on 10/07/2006 4:39:28 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Foley follies will bite the dems in the butt.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok
What a job Phsstpok! You really outdid yourself this week, great analysis and an excellent preview to what should be a great Sunday thread, the last few have been spectacular.
39 posted on 10/07/2006 5:17:28 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Dilbert San Diego
Bottom line, we go rid of foley immediately. While the rats protect their perverts until the last dying minute.
40 posted on 10/07/2006 5:18:56 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Alas Babylon!

Brilliant post AB.


41 posted on 10/07/2006 5:22:15 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
I am aware of what both the media and Democrats are doing and I try to keep up on it because no matter what they do they still have to be countered.  Most successful elections require independent voters to win them so we must respond to what is being said and done.

Democrats and the media have taken the concept that "perception is reality" so far out there that it honestly becomes funny.  I believe we have to take the threat seriously but we should stop taking these media and Democrat operatives seriously as well.  We are giving them far more credibility than any of them have earned or deserve.  

First we have to learn IF there is a problem with the pages in DC.  If there is, we'll fix it just as we have done with other problems.  The very idea a Pelosi, Conyers, Franks, Jefferson, Rangle or any other Democrat fixing any congressional problems is ludicrous on its face.   Someone, anyone, please tell me one problem Democrats have addressed or fixed in twelve years?  Who in their right mind actually believes the Democrat party has held any member accountable or responsible for their actions in our generation? 

Okay, now for the media and pollsters.  Someone, anyone, tell me which media network or pollster has predicted the results of any major national election correctly within thirty or sixty days of that election since 2000? 

It should not be a surprise that if a political party is incapable of the leadership needed to govern a country, they should not be elected.  The global war on terror is going our way, the economy is doing great, tax revenues are up, interest rates down, unemployment is down and Republicans are advancing bills addressing the issues the country is concerned about such as illegal immigration.  Let's face it, the Democrats have nothing but this Foley incident and their relentless blind opposition to President Bush and the war on terrorism to talk about. 

Our job is to fend off the B$, return the national conversation to issues critical to our country and educate voters as we are getting out the vote in thirty days. Voters have to know the plan Democrats are advancing is based on eliminating funding for the war on terrorism and Iraq, raising taxes, eliminating the tax breaks people already have, open the borders, register illegal aliens to vote and spend money to investigate President Bush, VP Cheney and DOD Sec. Rumsfeld.  This isn't us saying that, this was put forth by both Nancy Pelosi and Charlie Rangle.  And I won't even bring up Majority Leader Murtha.



 

42 posted on 10/07/2006 5:30:57 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Morgan in Denver
Like minds! I have already stated the same conclusions. We get rid of our bad guys immediately while the rats protect theirs until the bitter end.
43 posted on 10/07/2006 5:34:14 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Morgan in Denver
You need to be much higher up in the party, the RNC needs your input, you make it look so easy.
44 posted on 10/07/2006 5:37:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Bahbah
The rats,DBM modus operandi is that "only big govt. can fix problems." That's why the Congressional page problem can only be fixed by the loving caring dem/rats.
Look for some arcane bill to be suggested by some rat somewhere along the line to protect the young pages from the unscrupulous pubbie sex perverts. Dontcha just know.
45 posted on 10/07/2006 5:41:39 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Miss Marple
I will check in on Fox News Sunday in order to see how much of a turncoat each of those pseudo-Republicans are.

Laura Ingraham has been almost unlistenable this week. She is on a power rant similar to her days on Harriet Myers.

46 posted on 10/07/2006 5:54:23 PM PDT by Freee-dame
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Phsstpok
Your meme for Face the Nation is incorrect. For some reason you got it in your head LaHood is a Rat. He's a Pubbie.

I like reading your weekly previews, BTW.

47 posted on 10/07/2006 6:01:45 PM PDT by kristinn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Freee-dame
Harriet Myers, then Katrina, then Dubai ports. The Beltway Pundits have the bit in their teeth, and think that they are calling the shots.

I have no use for any of them, and I no longer will buy their books or listen to anything they have to say.

I believe when they are deprived of income perhaps THEN they might get a clue.

48 posted on 10/07/2006 6:03:55 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: kristinn

Your right. I was stuck on the notion of Republican vs Democrat on each panel and just went with that.

My only excuse is that CBS was one of the last to post (CNN was last this week) and I was stuck in a groove.


49 posted on 10/07/2006 7:27:15 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Darth Republican
which one is Alphonse and which is Gaston?

http://www.std.org/strubin/ccc/cccalp.gif

I could never tell which was which in the cartoons!

Ironically, tonight Fred was off and Bill Sammon subbed.  I enjoyed him much better.  Mort got more absolute in his declarations about how doomed the republicans are and Sammon just wouldn't buy it.  He didn't get loud or nasty, he just quietly ripped Mort a new one... 

50 posted on 10/07/2006 7:37:18 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson