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A German dive bomber Ju 87 Stuka flies over an unknown location in this November 1, 1940 file photo taken during World War II. Greek military divers Friday successfully raised the wreckage of a German World War II Stuka bomber from the sea off the eastern island of Rhodes, the air force said. (AP Photo)


1 posted on 10/06/2006 6:42:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Why would they need 2 crew members. Did the guy in the back seat hold a pistol to the head of the pilot?


2 posted on 10/06/2006 6:47:44 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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One the most recognizable profiles in the history of flight....and one of the most intimidating for it's time.


7 posted on 10/06/2006 7:04:04 PM PDT by zarf
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I had a gas engine flying model of this plane when I was a kid. Had the Cox 0.49 engine and dropped a bomb by lanyard control. It was wa-a-a-ay cool in the late '60's. It would not have been in 1939.


13 posted on 10/06/2006 7:57:58 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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It doesn't seem like there would be much left of the aircraft unless it was in fresh water or very deep in the ocean.


18 posted on 10/06/2006 8:24:09 PM PDT by dljordan
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The Luftwaffe had its own ministry in the early years of the Third Reich and came into existence formally in 1935 when the Treaty Of Versailles that prohibited a German Air Force was formally scrapped. The Polish Campaign in 1939 saw the first true test of air power, something only hinted at the close of World War I. The Battle Of Britain in 1940 revealed its military limits just as the experience in Poland showed its possibilities as the military weapon of the future.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

19 posted on 10/06/2006 8:28:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I remember hearing their dreadful screams. They were terrible, out-of-date aircraft, but were they terrifying!


24 posted on 10/06/2006 8:38:49 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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Here in Chicago we are fortunate to have a Ju 87 at Museum of Science and Industry...as well as one nice clean Nazi U-boat!


51 posted on 12/02/2006 10:56:06 PM PST by endthematrix ("If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons.")
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"November 1, 1940 file photo " . That's a Ju87B, not the later Ju87D that was recovered in Greece.
 
 Not that anyone in the gAyP would give a flying frick.
 
The D model entered service in 1942 and incorporated some major design changes which make it instantly recognizable from the earlier B.
 
Ju 87D-3/trop. (W. Nr. 2883)
Ju 87D-3/trop. (W. Nr. 2883)
 
OCTOBER 5, 2006   A JUNKERS JU-87 "STUKA"  IS RAISED FROM THE  THE SEA NEAR RHODOS ISLAND

OOctober 5, 2006, the HAF Underwater Operations Team (KΟΣΥΘΕ) successfully carried out the salvage of a Luftwaffe Ju87D-3/Trop Stuka, from a depth of 15 metres, half a mile off the coast of Prassonisi at Rodos (Rhodes) island.


According to a combination of available historical data, it appears that the aircraft is most probably S7+GM (100375), crewed by Lt. Rolf Metzger & Uffz. Hans Sopnemann - both MIA), which was shot down on 9 October 1943.


On that very day the II/St.G. 3 lost a total of nine Ju 87D-3/Trop when they were intercepted during their mission against Royal Navy and Hellenic Navy ships in the Aegean. Of these nine, seven crashed into the sea and two made emergency landings on Rodos. A week before, German troops had landed on the island of Kos, which fell the next day.

 On 9 October 1943, HMS cruiser "Carlisle" and other destroyers, returning from a sweep west of Kos, were dive-bombed SW of Rodos Island by a formation of Ju-87 Stukas. "Carlisle" was seriously damaged and HMS destroyer "Panther" was sunk. Most of her crew were saved by the RHN destroyer "Miaoulis", which has also claimed firing against the Ju-87 formation and probably hit a couple of them.


According to information supplied by HAF Museum experts, from a first inspection of the fuselage, it is suggested that the aircraft has most probably been hit by aircraft fire. In this case, a plausible explanation is that it was downed by P-38s (Lightning) belonging to USAAF 37th Fighter Squadron, led by the famous double Ace Major William Leverette.

 On that same day, seven P-38s on a mission to protect RN warships in the Mediterranean sighted a formation of 30 German Ju-87 dive bombers. Following fierce dogfights, 37th Sq has claimed downing several Luftwaffe Stukas and a Ju-88.


Almost sixty years after her loss, in October 2004, the wreck was caught to the net of the fishing boat "Konstantinos" belonging to Captain Spyros Varvaris from Kalymnos Island, seven miles off the southern cape of Rodos.

It was then dragged all the way to shallow waters and the incident was reported to the Hellenic Coast Authorities. Given the historical importance of the aircraft, the HAF General Staff decided to proceed to its salvage.

The precise position of the wreck was pointed out by diver Yannis Glinatsis, resident of Rodos. Following this, the aircraft was videotaped by the HAF divers in order to determine the optimum salvage method. Technical drawings were made available by the HAF Museum, while HAF experts suggested the strongest points, from which the aircraft could safely be suspended and lifted.

 All these were taken into consideration by the HAF diving engineers, who have more than 20 years accumulated experience in salvage and deep submergence operations, including the successful salvage of a RAF Blenheim in 1996 at Crete (and another one at Prespes Lake), a Ju-52/3m off Leros Island, not to mention several modern fighters, fire-fighters and helicopters (including a CH 47/D from the unprecedented depth of 960 metres!).

All the above led to an exceptionally precise weighing of the A/C, which was smoothly lifted from the seabed intact.
Soon after the aircraft was brought to the surface, the HAF Museum technicians took care of her. The plane was washed with water and special chemicals were applied in order to avoid corrosion due to exposure to the atmospheric air. Following this, the aircraft will be taken to the local airfield of Maritsa, where first degree restoration will be applied.

The outer parts of the wings will properly be dismantled and the plane will be shipped to the HAF Museum at Dekeleia Air Base, Tatoi, where a full restoration programme will be carried out. It is anticipated that the Stuka will be available for viewing during the HAF Celebration Day on 8 November 2006 which this year is dedicated to the participation of HAF in WWII.

 

http://koti.welho.com/msolanak/news.html

 

59 posted on 12/02/2006 11:33:51 PM PST by wolficatZ ("..a creature from the prehistoric past. The terrible, fearsome, Croco-Stimpy! ")
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