Posted on 10/07/2006 3:43:02 PM PDT by blam
BTW, not one mention of any DNA testing.
Good heavens no!
Think of the careers at stake, the grants dried up, the mountains of theories and publications suddenly out of date...anthropologists with egg on their face...entire museum collections provenance in doubt!
Who's going to give them money for that?
Now, where's that tinfoil hat?
Kuelap was re-discovered in the 1840s by a judge from the nearby town of Chachapoyas. I don't know where the "35 years ago" comes from, although it has remained relatively unkown.
I went to Kuelap (fairly accessible) and several other remote sites (accessible only by several days' journey on horseback and then straight up the mountains on foot) in Chachapoyas in 1997.
From what I understand, the "blonde hair, blue eyes" is a bit of an exaggeration. They had already been conquered and dispersed by the Inca at the time of the European invasion. Spanish accounts say the Chachapoyas were the "whitest" of the native inhabitants, but this doesn't mean much without closer archaeological or DNA studies.
I will say this - people living in the area in small towns and remote villages in Chachapoyas today do seem to exhibit Caucasian features, much more so than people living in other parts of Peru. They could pass for Spanish peasants, whereas in most of the rest of Peru, they are unmistakably Andean Amerind. They don't speak Quechua, either. The region used to be heavily populated, as evidenced by the extensive terracing in places where is absolutely no one.
The remnants of the Chachapoyan culture is certainly distinct from other cultures nearby, but is not particularly unique, with elements of both Amazon and Andean culture. The Chachapoyan mummies are typical Amerind remains, as far as I know. I haven't heard of any DNA studies, although I have inquired with local experts about this.
Gene Savoy claims to have found some interesting stuff at some of the ruins. I got to have a look at some of it, and still don't know what to think. I tend to be very skeptical of claims by the esoterica crowd.
Excellent report. Thanks for the input.
Looks like we missed a few things in World History class in high school.
Yup. The books are being re-written now. DNA analysis, is going to tell us very much...if we're allowed to do them. The Australian Aboriginies will no longer submit to any blood analysis, etc.
I recommend you read Stephen Oppenheimer's new book, "Origins Of The British." He has some very interesting DNA data on the Sa'ami and their origins. Very technical but informative book.
The Gaelic speakers had earlier come from the Danube through the Black Sea, and around the Mediterranean.
One imagines this having been the regular route for a single group of sea-faring Gaelic speakers.
For a variety of reasons the Iberian records, which are far older than those used as a basis for the King Arthur material, have been rejected by English archaeologists and historians.
The part of the ancient stories that relates to King Solomon has received the harshest criticism.
We have a far more recent example of Gaelic speakers flowing into Iberia that is nearly as forgotten. King San Cho Noe I came to Galicia from Cornwall and conquered the remaining Gaelic speaking and Visigothic kingdoms in the area. He reorganized the order of life and initiated the Reconquista which ultimately re-Christianized all of Spain.
Lebenteenzillionpercent of everybody think Sancho is Iberian in origin.
Thanks, blam. This is an excellent article, and a very intriguing place.
Don't-want you-to-miss-this-one ping.
Thanks. It seems that the early Europeans really got around.
They may not be European.
Ah, those Vikings....
Sorry I missed this post last year, a very interesting on.
Here is an interesting tidbit. My husband was 1/16 Cree (most likely) Indian, although he was red headed with bright light blue eyes. I am 1/2 German with Tartar ancestry many centuries back and 1/2 British/Celtic with hazel eyes. Our two sons have very dark brown eyes. Mongolian Tartar genes from me that were recessive to my European hazel eyes, but stronger than the completely recessive blue eyes of their father? When my oldest son who also has very dark hair and olive complexion went to have his wisdom teeth extracted, they discovered he had 6 wisdom teeth. They wanted to know if he had Eskimo blood. The Cree were a Canadian tribe, and probably had contact with the Eskimos. I find genetics fascinating.
"The part of the ancient stories related to King Soloman have received the harshest criticism."
Have you seen the most recent story line of Prince Valiant which deals with this topic?
LOL, I expect we all have some suprizes coming.
Rare Skeleton, Jewels Found In Bolivia Pyramid (Tiwanaku)
Lots of photos on this thread.
Interesting comments on the fair skinned people.
Among the Maya, albinos hold special status as ‘hijos del sol’ (children of the sun).
Perhaps that’s who these people were.
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