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Greenspan Thinks Housing Decline Is Over!
MarketWatch.com (by Dow Jones) ^ | 10/7/06 | John Shinal

Posted on 10/07/2006 5:06:07 PM PDT by SierraWasp

Greenspan sounds optimistic note on housing: report

By John Shinal, MarketWatch Last Update: 12:49 PM ET Oct 7, 2006

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said that last week's rise in weekly mortgage applications could signal that the ``worst may well be over'' for the U.S. housing industry, according to a report of a speech Greenspan gave in Canada on Friday.

Greenspan was referring to an Oc.t 4 report from the Mortgage Bankers Association which showed that mortgage applications rose a seasonally-adjusted 11.9% for the week ending Sept. 29, the largest increase in more than a year.

Refinancing applications were up 17.5% from the week before and accounted for almost 47% of all U.S. mortgage applications, their highest share since February 2005. See full story.

Greenspan, speaking at a conference in Calgary, saw this "flattening out" of mortgage activity compared to the steep declines seen in recent months as a good sign, according to a story published Friday by Bloomberg News.

Mortgage refinancings have been a boon to U.S. economic growth during the last five years as homeowners used home equity they've cashed out to finance other spending.

But as mortgage rates rose to five-year highs this year, refinancing activity has ebbed, new home sales have dropped and existing-home price appreciation has stalled in many formerly hot housing markets.

Greenspan's remarks come as current Fed bankers and other economists try to figure out how much the current housing slowdown will hurt the economy.

Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, who succeeded Greenspan, said this week that the negative effects of a housing industry correction could cut U.S. economic growth by about one percentage point in the second half of this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: decline; flattening; housing
Where's the doom? Where's the gloom? And Bernake's not raisin rates, neither!!! Ha Ha Ha!!! Ya gotta love seein all the doomers and gloomers eatin their crow!!!
1 posted on 10/07/2006 5:06:08 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: SierraWasp

So if Greenspan says something it makes it so? Interesting. I wish I had a crystal ball too.


2 posted on 10/07/2006 5:08:43 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; NormsRevenge; Dog Gone
Zippity doo dah, Zippity yay... My, oh my what a beautiful day!!!

(unfortunately all the MSM and Dems wanna talk about is QUEER NATION!!!)

3 posted on 10/07/2006 5:09:59 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp

Well that was fast


4 posted on 10/07/2006 5:10:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - BECOME A MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SierraWasp

Greenspan goes to bed with Andrea Mitchell. Enough said. His judgment isn't perfect.


5 posted on 10/07/2006 5:11:08 PM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: SierraWasp

Wow! That was quick! The decline was long predicted and lasted for...what?...3 or 4 hours? Then BAM--the DOW hits record highs! Unemployment hits the lows! And--gee whiz! I just sold my place for four times what I paid for it 5 years ago!!!


6 posted on 10/07/2006 5:11:54 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated thanks to President Bush and his expert--and ATTENTIVE--leadership!)
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To: frankjr

Los Angeles, Boston, San Francisco, and other cities have seen a drop of up to 15% over the last 90 days. Huge part of the population.


7 posted on 10/07/2006 5:11:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: SierraWasp
I'm glad he's gone. There are many highly unstable markets. I drove through one recently in Florida where, with no exaggeration, half the town was for sale. I contacted a few local agents and they verified the impending down-slide. The housing market will always be strong (people need homes) the finances are what is gloomy about this.
8 posted on 10/07/2006 5:12:39 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: SierraWasp

If I were Bernanke, I'd be so pissed off. Nobody gives a rat's @$$ what he thinks, they're still paying attention to Greenspan. That's like coming home and finding your wife's ex, uh, you know.....doing the dew and the funky chicken too and her excusing it by saying it was his position for so long, she's just used to it.


9 posted on 10/07/2006 5:13:13 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: frankjr
THOU SHALT NOT COVET!!!

Shucks, I've got a couple of 'em... (blush)

10 posted on 10/07/2006 5:18:38 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp

For God's sake, don't tell Hydroshock and ex-Texan. They'll be devastated. They spend half their days posting doom-and-gloom articles about how we're all going to be wiped out financially by the housing crash.


11 posted on 10/07/2006 5:22:27 PM PDT by Fairview
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To: kinoxi
"...the finances are what is gloomy about this."

Why? Mortgage interest rates are falling once again on 30 year fixed rate contracts!!! Why is that gloomy?

12 posted on 10/07/2006 5:23:45 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp

Oh my word, Mr. Allan Mitchell will be sleeping in the garage for that opinion.


13 posted on 10/07/2006 5:27:05 PM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: Mo1

That's right! It was fast because Bernake and Company stopped shoving the short term interest rates up our possibly slowing economic fluidity. I sang a fluid dity once. Nobody liked it, however...


14 posted on 10/07/2006 5:28:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Los Angeles, Boston, San Francisco, and other cities have seen a drop of up to 15% over the last 90 days.

And how much did those markets rise in the preceding seven years?

15 posted on 10/07/2006 5:30:26 PM PDT by wireman
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To: SierraWasp
The housing market (I mentioned Florida) is also teetering in some parts of Maryland. Do you have any background in foreclosure or refi's or are you just more optimistic than I am? I see the second mortgages drying up in this area. I don't think the trend is healthy.
16 posted on 10/07/2006 5:30:40 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: peyton randolph
It's just sex! And between two consenting adults, peyton!!!

Haven't you learned a thing from the Liberals? (grin)

17 posted on 10/07/2006 5:30:41 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: kinoxi

Actually I don’t like the way the economy is going, it really scares the heck out of me. All indicators are aimed in the right direction and are steady. Stocks are deflated, unemployment is low, low deficit/GDP ratios, the CPI, the PPI the CES, etc., etc., etc… and this is no hype.

The economy is better than anyone here has ever seen it in their lifetime and it does scare me a little because it sounds too good to be true.


18 posted on 10/07/2006 5:30:45 PM PDT by fuyb
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To: wireman

Not the point, and you know it.


19 posted on 10/07/2006 5:31:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: fuyb
I think the economy is fine as a whole. I think a lot of people will get screwed (mostly by their own doing) in the housing market.
20 posted on 10/07/2006 5:32:50 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: Savage Beast

Well, see? The more things change... The more they stay the same!!! (and the faster it happens, too!!!)(snort!)


21 posted on 10/07/2006 5:32:56 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp

This is rich economic talk.

Since Greenspan's interest rate mismanagement caused the 2001 recession.


22 posted on 10/07/2006 5:34:21 PM PDT by gipper81 (When the pilgrims landed in Plymouth in 1620-nobody asked: "Where is my federal assistance program?")
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To: SierraWasp
How long will construction lumber continue to go dawn? Our church is in the design stage of a 1500sf addition with ground breaking in late May...
23 posted on 10/07/2006 5:35:17 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Fairview

I KNOW!!! I'll never tell, but that was a big part of the reason this little article caught my eye and caused me to post it. I'm kinda waitin to see how long it takes 'em to sniff this chumming bait... I just love it when someone in a recognized position to know what they are talking about come around and hits a homer out of the park... You know, like slamming "global warming," or "alternative energy" fantasies!!!


24 posted on 10/07/2006 5:40:47 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Not the point, and you know it.

No, the point is that the real estate doom and gloomers around here are full of crap and lie about their agenda.

By the way.... How much HAVE those properties appreciated in the last six or seven years?

25 posted on 10/07/2006 5:42:43 PM PDT by wireman
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To: tubebender

Is it going down now? Unbelieveable!!! What's causing it to go down? Where's the increase in supply coming from? Are you kiddin me, er what???


26 posted on 10/07/2006 5:44:50 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp

A cooling of demand, for one. Also, the resolution of the tariff dispute between the US and Canada over softwood lumber has helped to reduce the price as well, so even if increased demand, driven by declining interest rates, were to enter into the picture once again, we'll likely not see prices for softwood lumber increase to the levels of even last year, not anytime soon at least. The tariff was as high as 27%.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060505/OPINION01/605050320/1009/OPINION


27 posted on 10/07/2006 5:50:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SierraWasp
Is it going down now? Unbelieveable!!! What's causing it to go down? Where's the increase in supply coming from? Are you kiddin me, er what???

If you can build a $400,000 dollar house for $150,000 then the market is not sustainable. That was what caused the dotcom crash, no real value. I mentioned the second mortgage market in a previous post for a reason. It requires equity to get one.
28 posted on 10/07/2006 5:50:43 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: kinoxi

If evan a partially successful clamping down on illegal immigrant labor is achieved, there will be an increase in labor costs for residential construction, which will more than offset any decline in materials cost, so it's probably a wash, at a minimum, on the price of a new house. But, cement has also been a biggie, as far as price increases over the past several years, due to extremely high demand, both domestically and in China; I really don't have a feel for where that might be headed. Fuel costs could come into play as well at some point, although diesel hasn't come down nearly so much as gasoline.


29 posted on 10/07/2006 6:01:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SierraWasp

I heard it on the Ra did dio driving down to the nearest Casino to recoup my losses. It said because housing starts are down and the pipeline to Katrina is overflowing at this time. I can't wait for 2% interest rates so we can relive 22% yearly inflation ala Jimma Karter...


30 posted on 10/07/2006 6:13:58 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: gipper81
This is rich economic talk.

Since Greenspan's interest rate mismanagement caused the 2001 recession.

Technically I don't think it was much of a recession (it was the largest fall in business spending since the Great Depression), but you're right about Greenspan.

However, it is true about mortgage applications being up, and pending home sales in August were up. Two facts reported here on FR, where they were pretty much ignored, but the MSM totally buried the news.

31 posted on 10/07/2006 6:51:01 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: wireman

"And how much did those markets rise in the preceding seven years?"

Ahem, I believe the thread was telling us how RE markets have stabilized, NOT how much property values have gone up, as you wish it was. Be careful who you call a liar, BRAIN SURGEON, just look in the mirror.


32 posted on 10/07/2006 6:51:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: SierraWasp

Tom Daschle is deeply saddened

33 posted on 10/09/2006 1:52:53 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: SierraWasp

WE'RE DOOMED!


34 posted on 10/09/2006 1:53:27 PM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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