[bert]

So I if I read this thread right, all Moslems are not really bad? Apparently there are some that FReepers find acceptable in the religion of hate.

How can that be?

[oldleft]

There are, within Islam, factions which are perfectly fine. These include Sufi and Druze. The Muslims we're fighting don't accept these as true Islam, so when some one talks of Islam as the religion of hate they generally are talking of the mainsteam, not the civilized oddshoots.

[norton]

If you were to read this correctly:
It's accepted western/Judeo-Christian thought to understand that not all 'people' are either bad or good. Salvation is possible to anyone. It's not right to hate your enemies (killing is OK, hate is not).

And, finally, it's pretty human to believe that despite an evil belief system (not exactly one chosen by the participants) there are, there must be, good people among the populace of all muslim countries. The fight is against islamism, and against a centuries old islamic hatred fostered by official state/religion institutions that we in the USA formally disavowed. If the individual is a threat - burn him or her. If the state is a threat - burn it. But in the latter instance innocent people will die in greater numbers than will bad guys - even among a muslim population.

Clear?

Now, actually on topic:
I do not believe that the Iranian people are ready for a revolution against the Imams - so far they have come right up to small scale rebellion and always retreated. Since this particular Imam is a minority figure I expect to see lots of people arrested and imprisoned but not much in the way of a broadening resistance.

For whatever reason, Iranians simply do not appear to be ready to take the last step in order to change things themselves. (From what we've seen in Lebanon, that may be of no matter in the long run, the 'Cedar Revolution' achieved zilch)

Sorry to those who really want Persia to be Persia, and sorry for the innocent people who will get 'in the way' but I just don't see it.

[Valin]

How can that be?

Quite simple
"Anybody can become angry, that is easy; but to be angry with the right person, and to the right degree, and at the right time, and for the right purpose, and in the right way, that is not within everybody's power, that is not easy."
Aristotle


"Anyone who judges a man by the group is a peawit". The grizzled old Irish sergeant Kilrain says this in Michael Shaara's The Killer Angels.


Valin says, You start hating it's very easy to become that which you hate.