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Hundreds of Iraq police fall ill at meal
AP via Yahoo ^ | October 8, 2006 | QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA

Posted on 10/08/2006 4:40:30 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever

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To: ARealMothersSonForever
"The division normally operates around the town of Salman Pak"

Isn't that the place where terrorist were trained to use biological weapons?
141 posted on 10/08/2006 6:35:17 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: fishergirl

I think they are flu-like symptoms. No bleeding.


142 posted on 10/08/2006 6:35:22 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: hstntxs
I would guess a derivative or agent from some type of nerve agent.

That is what I was thinking. Especially with the rapid onset and the bleeding.

Arab food can be strongly flavored, so maybe it was mixed with a spice to disguise the taste. But some nerve agents have no scent, so maybe no taste either.

143 posted on 10/08/2006 6:35:23 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Dog

Heparin is broken down by digestive enzymes if taken orally. That is why it is give IV or IM.


144 posted on 10/08/2006 6:36:26 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: tobyhill

As VP Dick Cheney so accurately said, this proves the Iraqi insurgency is "its last throes".


145 posted on 10/08/2006 6:36:31 PM PDT by floridareader1
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To: Pukin Dog; All

MYCOTOXINS

The trichothecene mycotoxins are highly toxic compounds produced by certain species of fungi. Because these mycotoxins can cause massive organ damage, and because they are fairly easy to produce and can be dispersed by various methods (dusts, droplets, aerosols, smoke, rockets, artillery mines, portable sprays), mycotoxins have an excellent potential for weaponization.

Strong evidence suggests that trichothecenes ("yellow rain") have been used as a biological warfare agent in Southwest Asia and Afghanistan. From 1974-1981, numerous attacks resulted in a minimum of 6310 deaths in Laos, 981 deaths in Cambodia, and 3042 deaths in Afghanistan. When taken from fungal cultures, the mycotoxins yield a yellow-brown liquid that evaporates into a yellow crystalline product (thus, the "yellow rain" appearance). These toxins require certain solutions and high heat to be completely inactivated.

Signs and symptoms

After exposure to the mycotoxins, early symptoms begin within 5 minutes. Full effects take 60 minutes.

* If skin exposure occurs, the skin burns, becomes tender, swollen, and blisters. In lethal cases, large areas of skin die and slough (fall off).

* Respiratory exposure results in nasal itching, pain, sneezing, a bloody nose, shortness of breath, wheezing, cough, and blood-tinged saliva and sputum.

* If ingested, the person feels nausea and vomits, loses appetite, feels abdominal cramping, and has watery and/or bloody diarrhea.

* Following entry into the eyes, pain, tearing, redness, and blurred vision occur.

* Systemic toxicity may occur and includes weakness, exhaustion, dizziness, inability to coordinate muscles, heart problems, low or high temperature, diffuse bleeding, and low blood pressure. Death may occur within minutes to days depending on the dose and route of exposure.

Diagnosis

Diagnosis of an attack of trichothecene mycotoxin depends on the symptoms and identifying the toxin from biological and environmental samples. Many people with these symptoms may report being in a yellow rain or smoke attack.

Initial laboratory tests are not always helpful. Currently, a rapid identification kit for any of the trichothecene mycotoxins does not exist. Gas-liquid chromatography has been used in the past with great success. However, chromatographic methods lack great sensitivity, and presently alternative methods of detection are under investigation.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/biological_warfare/page5_em.htm


146 posted on 10/08/2006 6:37:15 PM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: delacoert

"About the only food related cause for bleeding from the ears that I can think of is a skull fracture from being force fed a frozen pot roast through the top of the skull."

You have an ex wife too ?


147 posted on 10/08/2006 6:38:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Ricin poisoning. Matches the symptoms and the time involved.

Additionally, it is something that the terrorists are completely familiar with. You may recall the booklets found in Afghanistan dealt extensively with Ricin and the terrorists a couple of years back were manufacturing it in England.

148 posted on 10/08/2006 6:38:24 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

trichotecenes. Bulk quantities need a state factory. Iran will not be poisoning shiites, and there's not enough gain in it for the Syrians to compensate for the risks.


149 posted on 10/08/2006 6:38:53 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Re: ricin symptoms - "rapidly progressing pulmonary syndrome that is not responsive to antibiotics."


150 posted on 10/08/2006 6:39:05 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Pukin Dog

From the same source


Ingestion of ricin is generally less toxic because it is not absorbed well and may degrade in the digestive tract. Out of 751 ingestions recorded, only 14 resulted in a death.


http://www.emedicinehealth.com/biological_warfare/page5_em.htm


151 posted on 10/08/2006 6:39:18 PM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: COEXERJ145

How about a condition peculiar to Middle easterners .. like sickle cell to blacks?


152 posted on 10/08/2006 6:39:29 PM PDT by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: VastRWCon; mainepatsfan
I will go farther and blame the USA DEMOCRATIC PARTY and the MSM for thier total lack of support from the begining of this war. If it wern't for them this war would have been over by now. They the DEMOCRATS and the MSM are responsible for all this bs.

Nope. Sorry, but the MSM and the Dems have very little to do with what is actually going on over there. They have much more of an effect and at home, but AQ and the rest of the terrorists over in Iraq couldn't really give a flip less what some politicians in Washington are saying.
153 posted on 10/08/2006 6:39:40 PM PDT by MikefromOhio ("...America has confronted evil before, and we have defeated it...")
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To: fishergirl

I'm looking for the book,,,It's in the house,,,somewhere,,
"Yellow Rain" is the title,,It's about Chemical Warfare,,


154 posted on 10/08/2006 6:40:42 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: FairOpinion
re #133

Blame the dems if you want. In this instance it is simply untrue.
155 posted on 10/08/2006 6:40:48 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
Given that there is not a more singular evil that embodies these terrorists; it would not be surprising.

Given that is difficult to wrap one's mind around this evil. . .makes it seem at least, almost surprising; if only for the moment it takes to do a reality check. . .

156 posted on 10/08/2006 6:40:52 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)
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To: Famishus

Jog ye back to your senses bump.


157 posted on 10/08/2006 6:41:20 PM PDT by mother22wife21 (Dog Soldiers-Great Movie!)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

"SALMAN PAK

WORKED ON DIFFERENT KINDS OF BACTERIA DISEASES LIKE

CHOLERA, AND A DISEASE CARRIED-BY RATS IN THE MIDDLE AGES"

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/960417/70485_01.htm


158 posted on 10/08/2006 6:41:26 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/ricin/facts.asp

Ricin FAQ


159 posted on 10/08/2006 6:42:19 PM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Warfarin inhibits the livers' production of coagulation factors (certain proteins in the coagulation cascade). If warfarin (coumadin) is taken it take several days for it to inhibit the synthesis of these proteins. The proteins circulating in the bloodstream are 'degraded' as it passes through the body. Normally it is in a steady state of production and degradation. If production is impeded, the degradation will continue on and thus the PT will become longer and longer. But for the first few days, we place people on theraputic doses of heparin IV or IM. Heparin is rapidly metabolized and must be given either continously or frequently.


160 posted on 10/08/2006 6:42:39 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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