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UPDATE on Ahyatollah Boroujerdi & Iran & North Korea
KRSI Rado Voice of Iran & ANTIMULLAH ^ | 10/09/06 | Alan Peters

Posted on 10/09/2006 10:42:21 PM PDT by FARS

Sorry for the delay in this but I have been preoccupied with a few matters that have been developing.

You have all heard by now that at 4 a.m. on Sunday, the Islamic Regime sent in various law and security enforcement agencies backed by armored vehicles, water cannon trucks spouting boiling water and even firing live rounds on the demonstrators to finally arrest Ayatollah Boroujerdi. Publicly treating him in a shameful and degrading manner after they had their hands on him.

Several aspects and questions came to light:

1. To what extent were outside forces involved in this quite significant event?

2. Was this showdown forced by the Islamic regime as a test case?

a) Would people rise up to support this comparatively young Ayatollah (or others like him)?

They failed to rally to his call, so one result now portends that the Islamic regime will have even less hesitation and compunction in dealing harshly with any future clerical opposition.

Even members of the populace, tired of the Islamic regime, stayed home when the call was from one cleric against his own kind in what they perceived to be a purely Mullah power struggle.

b) How difficult would it be to suppress and control this situation or one similar to it?

As a practise run, the events provided a real life tactical training for various law enforcement units, including one which in Farsi is called the "Pressure Group" (gorouheh feshaar).

It also gave a "live fire", so to speak, training for new reinforcement recruits for the Paasdaars (IRGC - Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) and mercenary (now mostly Arabs and Sunni Pashtu from Pakistan) Basiji (vicious anti-riot and demonstration suppression forces).

The Islamic Regime has partially gone back to the philosophy used when the original Basiji and Paasdaars were organized as bodyguards and "palace guards" by Khomeini, who recruited ignorant village peasants for these paramilitary services.

His idea was that these would be the least educated, most superstitious, most religious (or open to religious pressure) and the least knowledgeable of real life beyond their village settings and would thus be devoid of any political ideology and be the most open to doing his bidding blindly.

Some of these newly recruited simpletons were among those tasked with maintaining a cordon around Ayatollah Boroujerdi's residence and when approached by opponents of the Islamic Regime, showed little hostility.

When asked why they were opposed to Boroujerdi, they said they had been told he claimed to be the representative on earth of Imam Mehdi, the 12th Imam - most sacred to the Hojatieh sect - to which President Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad belongs and is led by candidate for future Supreme Ruler of Iran, Ayatollah Taghi Mesba Yazdi (also nicknamed the crocodile).

The recruits stated they were ready to arrest or kill Boroujerdi for his act of heresy. Some admitted they had no proof he had made such claims.

3.

The Regime wanted to find out which other Ayatollahs or high level supporters would openly rally to support Boroujerdi.

Only one, Mehdi Haeri (not Kazem, who is the ally of Moghtada Al-Sadr and his Shia militia in Iraq) came on the air and called for people to rise up. Though cautioning them not to destroy property, specifically gasoline stations, as suggested by some callers to KRSI (Voice of Iran Radio in Los Angeles - www.krsi.com), which was broadcasting events live.

4. The Islamic Regime has apparently used this uprising to begin disarming the regular Armed Forces, which since the 1979 Khomeini revolt, had been increasingly less trusted and became orphan children to the Paasdaran (IRGC), who got all the best military equipment and most of the budgets.

5. Concurrently with all this, Al Qaeda, which has several hundred senior leaders and fighters residing in Iran, including several Ossama bin Laden sons, began threatening the Swiss Embassy for representing American interests and a possibility for a take over, per the USA Tehran Hostage Crisis, exists even now.

6. Finally, for now at least, rumors were floating that Al Qaeda was preparing an attack inside the USA for today, October 9th, 2006, to coincide with Columbus Day and the discovery of America day would also become the destruction of America Day.

Instead, North Korea tested their very dirty nuclear bomb and sucked out the news oxygen desired by other harmful events.

Note: if you want to know where Iran is heading , check what North Korea is doing.

a) When the long range missile test by NK was scheduled recently, there were over 20 senior Iranian scientists and physicists present.

Obviously, since the test was to provide operational proof of the missiles NK was selling to Iran but for which they would not be paid, beyond any down payment, till they proved the missiles worked.

Iran has, repeat has, at least four - possibly six to eight - nuclear war heads, with four already in nose cones on mid-range Shahab 3 missiles.

While capable of reaching Israel and Eastern parts of Europe, the Shahab 3 and the still being developed Shahab 5 fail to provide long range capability Iran wants to have right away.

b) Today's North Korean test also had Islamic Iran scientists and physicists present. The exact number is hard to quantify since Iran has had hundreds of their nuclear program staff trained and still training in NK.

The purpose of this test might serve to draw attention to NK and force a bilateral meeting between Kim Jong IL and the USA as a side effect but the primary thrust is a test paid for by Iran.

As mentioned above, Iran holds a quantity of fissionable material, some of it from the early 90's and potentially greatly degraded for weapon use - but not for an underground explosion - with which Ahamdi-Nejad can announce Iran has become a nuclear power and thus ward off - as too late - any UN sanctions etc.

The fly in the Islamic Regime's ointment was that they have no idea whether what they have will detonate impressively or be a big burp.

So NK, which has a more abundant supply of similar fissionable material was hired to run a test. If it "burped" Iran would hold off doing a similar underground test and announcing their joining the nuclear family - from the Shrine of Imam Reza (saint of miracles) in Mashhad.

If there were a big enough bang, Ahmadi-Nejad would follow suit and in addition to offering an apparent "fait accompli" to the world, would then cowe his neighbors into more rapid submission to his political plans.

And incidentally start a regional nuclear arms race.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahamdinejad; ayatollah; boroujerdi; hojatieh; iran; mullahs; northkorea; wot
Lots going on this Columbus day.
1 posted on 10/09/2006 10:42:22 PM PDT by FARS
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To: RaceBannon; Pan_Yans Wife; freedom44; jmc1969; FreeReign; odds; Cronos; decal; Valin; sionnsar; ...

ping


2 posted on 10/09/2006 10:45:55 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

ping for GA


3 posted on 10/09/2006 10:49:55 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: FARS; Fred Nerks
Thank you for this post, Fars!
4 posted on 10/09/2006 10:53:08 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman)
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To: All

Still unconfirmed reports put the number of Ayatollah Boroujerdi's supporters "missing" (arrested, wounded and killed) at around 700 people.

No break down but this seems a low number based on live monitoring as the incident unfolded and the suppression enforcement agents given free rein to shoot at will into the demonstrators


5 posted on 10/09/2006 10:56:55 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS
A BTT. If the Iranians hoped to purchase either missile or nuclear technology from the North Koreans they may be reconsidering. Hitting the ocean isn't the same as hitting Tel Aviv, and doing so with a wet firecracker isn't the same as with a mushroom cloud. If the Iranians really want to accomplish a nuclear war they're going to have to come up with their own.

That's good news in the same way that a stay of execution is good news. It won't last. I have held for some time now that regime change will be easier to accomplish than air attacks against hardened, dispersed targets, and apparently Ahmadinejad agrees. Got a brand-new Secret Police force by this account. He knows his own people are his greatest danger.

6 posted on 10/09/2006 10:59:30 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: FARS

Sounds like a perceptive analysis to me.


7 posted on 10/09/2006 11:03:34 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

Quote "6. Finally, for now at least, rumors were floating that Al Qaeda was preparing an attack inside the USA for today, October 9th, 2006, to coincide with Columbus Day and the discovery of America day would also become the destruction of America Day.


Instead, North Korea tested their very dirty nuclear bomb and sucked out the news oxygen desired by other harmful events.

"


Ummmmmm yeah right. I am sure if they wanted to attack us then they would have attacked us. There was no planned attack for today. Plain and simple. North Korea didn't prevent an attack today.


8 posted on 10/09/2006 11:16:59 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: FARS

BUMP


9 posted on 10/09/2006 11:17:41 PM PDT by SweetCaroline (....If God brings you to it - He will bring you through it.)
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To: FARS

Quote "Iran has, repeat has, at least four - possibly six to eight - nuclear war heads, with four already in nose cones on mid-range Shahab 3 missiles.

While capable of reaching Israel and Eastern parts of Europe, the Shahab 3 and the still being developed Shahab 5 fail to provide long range capability Iran wants to have right away."


Been preaching this for months now. Iran already has nukes.


10 posted on 10/09/2006 11:18:26 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: FARS

I suppose according to Carter and the left, only murderers are “holy” men.

Well, 27 years of appeasement, excuses, rhetoric and continuous meaningless negotiations with the mullah regime would have some drawbacks. Some still say we should talk more and ‘we aren’t there yet’. I guess only after another catastrophe, some will say ‘we are getting there’.

How does that saying go.... an ounce of prevention is better than a dose of cure? And, I'm not talking just about airport security.


11 posted on 10/09/2006 11:26:13 PM PDT by odds
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To: silentknight

I think it's very highly probable that you are 100% correct.

AT least I agree. LOL.


12 posted on 10/09/2006 11:29:04 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: FARS

Thank you for the ping and the update/analysis.


13 posted on 10/09/2006 11:46:38 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: FARS

Iran has, repeat has, at least four - possibly six to eight - nuclear war heads, with four already in nose cones on mid-range Shahab 3 missiles.



If Iran has nukes already, IF....

Then Iran must, repeat must, be destroyed. We get out of Iraq - so our troops won't get nuked then, annihilate Iran, then wait for the levels to go down and come back in .... or keep'em glowing until they see the light.

NO more KGC. and what is Israel waiting for?

What is our President waiting for now? For Iran to get MORE nukes, LONGER range missiles? For one of those Iranian nukes to be packed into a truck and blown up next to the Green Zone and take the Green Zone out????


14 posted on 10/09/2006 11:53:21 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: FARS; RaceBannon; Pan_Yans Wife; freedom44; jmc1969; FreeReign; odds; Cronos; decal; Valin; ...
FReeper Desertdoc has opened a new website:
 
Friends, Romans, Countrymen and women,
I have put up a site to keep track of Mahdist claims and related news. 
 
Here it is: http://www.mahdiwatch.org/ 
 
I promise it'll be more complete (and impressive) soon, but with Ahmadinejad praying at the UN for the Mahdi to come, and al-Zawahiri calling the pope al-Dajjal (the Muslim antichrist), this site might be valuable even ow.
 
Timothy R. Furnish, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, World and Middle East History
  Georgia Perimeter College
"I bid you stand, Men of the West!"
     --Aragorn, "The Return of the King"

15 posted on 10/10/2006 12:34:04 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: FARS

Thank you for the update. Practice runs happen on both sides. We didn't respond to all calls to arms nor win all of our battles...at first.


16 posted on 10/10/2006 12:43:20 AM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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Bookmark bump

A.A.C.

"I guess that concludes negotiations..."

Gimli, son of Gloin - "The Return of the King"

[extended DVD version]

"Forward, Crusaders!"


17 posted on 10/10/2006 12:45:14 AM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: FARS

Why are they using Sunni Arabs in a Shiite country??


18 posted on 10/10/2006 12:55:40 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: Wolverine
FReeper Desertdoc has opened a new website:

Did you read the guy's resume? Specializes in end-times studies! Is this a Mad Max world or what.

19 posted on 10/10/2006 3:43:49 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: RaceBannon
Why are they using Sunni Arabs in a Shiite country??

Ask the question the other way around - why are Arabs in a Shiite country? Training. Against one enemy.

20 posted on 10/10/2006 3:46:01 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: FARS

BTTT


21 posted on 10/10/2006 5:41:50 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: FARS
Excellent report, FARS! Thanks............FRegards
22 posted on 10/10/2006 10:44:37 AM PDT by gonzo (.........Good grief!...I'm as confused as a baby in a topless club!.........)
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To: FARS
Fars, part of the problem is the United States has let the people of Iran down. Here's how: Iranians wanted the freedoms of a free society -- freedom from fear, freedom of speech, freedom to pursue happiness, free press, freedom from the midnight knock, and freedom from injustice. They looked to Iraq - and in Iraq, we failed. The freedoms that would have protected the people of Iraq are not possible when Islam is intertwined with governing.

When we took over Baghdad, the first elections should have dealt with ideas - a bill of rights. One at a time - up or down. "Do you want a free press?" Do you want the right to bear arms? How much power do you want your leaders to have... and bring the people in on creating a government. Instead our elites cut short the process - and the people knew it was going to be the same old same old - and not really worth fighting for... and the Iranians knew nothing would change. There would be new faces at the top - but they, the people, would still be at the bottom. And that's not worth fighting for...

23 posted on 10/10/2006 10:53:22 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Hollywood Entertraitors: - 30,000 letters telling people not to watch movies just went out.)
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To: RaceBannon; All

Unlike in Iraq, Iranian Shi'ites don't enjoy killing their own kind so they import Arab and other Sunnis to be the Basiji "suppression" squads. Vicous beyond belief.


24 posted on 10/10/2006 7:14:13 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

I am very disappointed in the response of the Iranian people. I'm beginning to think there is no possibility at all of them ever rising up and taking their freedom.


25 posted on 10/10/2006 9:52:51 PM PDT by McGavin999
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