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Houston to fine property owners for graffiti
Houston Chronicle ^ | 10 Oct 2006 | By ALEXIS GRANT

Posted on 10/10/2006 5:23:57 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder

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To: Kaylee Frye
Hmmmm.... "They can request that the city paint over the graffiti at no cost to the caller, though it's not guaranteed that the city's paint color will match the paint on the property."

That's the problem. The brick wall was pink. The graffiti was black. The city painted over the graffiti with gray or brown paint...as they saw fit. The natural stone color was destroyed forever. Blotches of gray and brown paint obliterate the gang graffiti, but deface the beauty of the wall just as much.

41 posted on 10/10/2006 9:43:17 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Ro_Thunder

Ar least in the Phoenix area we can call and have the city remove it.


42 posted on 10/10/2006 9:45:49 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: E Rocc
One potential problem is the fact that gang related "taggers" consider it a dis if their mess is cleaned up and may retaliate.

Then send the gang-bangers to Gitmo with the other terrorists.

43 posted on 10/10/2006 9:48:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jack Hammer
Great - as long as they also pass a law allowing property owners to shoot on sight anyone attempting to paint these obnoxious, no-talent pictures and moronic slogans.

Hear, Hear!!!

44 posted on 10/10/2006 9:49:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Myrddin

Oh I agree and I'm not saying the law is a good idea... I'm just refuting the other poster's statement that the article did not say whether the city-provided paint service was free. The article did state that it was free... I think the law is stupid.


45 posted on 10/10/2006 10:04:20 AM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: Kaylee Frye

I just got new glasses. Really.


46 posted on 10/10/2006 12:57:13 PM PDT by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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To: VRing
It's ok. :) I've done it too.... Actually, when I was looking back through the article for where it said that, I had to look pretty hard!
47 posted on 10/10/2006 1:19:46 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I'm with you, LF.

Graffiti left on the walls endlessly drives the spiral downward in the neighborhood. When neighborhoods are allowed to rot ... they draw crime.

Weird but true.


48 posted on 10/10/2006 1:22:01 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING


49 posted on 10/16/2006 1:42:56 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: stainlessbanner

The city is also trying to prohibit minors from carrying markers on them (and potentially even being able to sell markers to those under 18).

Strange but true.

Meanwhile violent crime in Houston has skyrocketed, being unchecked. But it's only taken them 15 years to go after graffiti. In a few generations we'll be able to get back to issues of safety.


50 posted on 10/16/2006 1:58:12 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: stainlessbanner

The same is also true of potholes. The city does not maintaint ITS properties.

It is pretty tough of them to say "two weeks".


51 posted on 10/16/2006 1:59:31 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: MortMan

To anarchists, all property is theft.

And you will find political hacks among the graffitios.

Can we fine city council members when we find "STOP Bush" and "STOP the war" graffiti on our STOP signs?


52 posted on 10/16/2006 2:02:24 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Jedidah

This is all about revenue.


53 posted on 10/16/2006 2:10:14 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Lunatic Fringe

BINGO!


54 posted on 10/16/2006 3:15:44 PM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: stainlessbanner
Graffiti is a gateway crime...

Just like allowing grass to grow knee deep on PRIVATE PROPERTY...it too attracks VERMIN and it pisses all the other neighbors off.

See how many cities allow knee deep grass ...City of Houston will leave a notice and when they finally show up to cut the BLIGHT down...they leave a VERY hefty bill

55 posted on 10/16/2006 3:23:43 PM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: Ro_Thunder
Great - fine the victims. Why not as part of any punishment for the criminal act of vandalism include the cleaning of said vandalism. If they don't catch the criminals, you still don't need to fine the victim.

This is the way it's been done in San Francisco for years. The vandals do their dirty work, and the city gives the targets a deadline to paint it over or clean it up or face a fine. As you approach the Bay Bridge on the freeway, you can see how the graf thugs are now emboldened to make their way to rooftops and billboards to leave their quasi-artistic garbage. Business owners are just now starting to fight back.

The Board of Stupidvisors in Sin Freaksicko have a soak-the-rich mindset that spills over into the middle class often. They seem to think that businesses will continue to locate here and will pay a premium in taxes, fees and punitive fines to do so. They didn't learn a thing from Bank of America moving its headquarters from its Financial District birthplace to Charlotte, NC.

56 posted on 10/16/2006 3:36:32 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Normal people would kill to save their kids. Muslim fascists raise their kids to die killing others.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
If someone steels the wheels off your car in the dead of night, do you have the right to leave it next to the curb on blocks for weeks on end?

Yes, if someone can't afford to buy new wheels for weeks on end, then he shouldn't be penalized for having been the victim of crime. I'm sorry if it offends your sensibilities to see a car on blocks for several weeks. I wouldn't like seeing it either, but I'd rather see the car on blocks than further victimize someone who couldn't afford new wheels and tires. If it bothers you that much, maybe you should help the guy out by either loaning him the money for the new wheels and tires or renting him a storage unit for a while. Having the government fine him or steal the rest of his car isn't the solution to the problem. Putting the results of the theft out of view may help some people to ignore the ugly reality of rising crime, but letting some people ignore that reality isn't a solution either.

Bill

57 posted on 10/16/2006 4:36:33 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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