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Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation: Veterans Sue Kerry Associates
Yahoo PR wire ^ | Oct 10, 2006 | VVLF

Posted on 10/10/2006 6:16:54 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent

PHILADELPHIA, Oct. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- The ongoing battle over the truth of alleged war crimes and atrocities committed by Americans in the Vietnam War moves to a Philadelphia courtroom this week.

An action filed in Philadelphia's Common Pleas Court today by a group of highly decorated veterans and POWs may finally hold Massachusetts Senator John Kerry and his allies accountable for the allegations they have propagated over the past 35 years.

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1 posted on 10/10/2006 6:16:54 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

The MSM will either ignore this story or put the heavy duty spin on it.


2 posted on 10/10/2006 6:19:07 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: wouldntbprudent

Get some!


3 posted on 10/10/2006 6:20:47 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Treaty Fetishism: "[The] belief that a piece of paper will alter the behavior of thugs." R. Lowry.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Sue Kerry? I knew a girl in highschool by that name.


4 posted on 10/10/2006 6:25:29 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Parley Baer

Who cares if the MSM ignores this story. If the New Media keeps it alive, it's alive!


5 posted on 10/10/2006 6:27:26 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Kerry was a liar and a traitor the nand he remains so today. There is blood on his hands.

Speed the day that he pays in full for what he has done.


6 posted on 10/10/2006 6:27:35 PM PDT by Noumenon (Liberals: America's domestic enemies. Treat them as such. With extreme predjudice.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Kerry and ilk have escaped being held accountable for their actions, past and present, for far too long.


7 posted on 10/10/2006 6:28:02 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

V N combat vet here-I'll help.


8 posted on 10/10/2006 6:29:42 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

Good, and thank you for your service to our nation.


9 posted on 10/10/2006 6:30:27 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent; SandRat; neverdem; girlangler; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Slings and Arrows; ...

If any of you have related ping lists, this might be worth spreading around.

Likely that the MSM will be too busy covering Foley or CA's global warming(TM) lawsuits.


10 posted on 10/10/2006 6:30:54 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: wouldntbprudent
God, I can't wait. Well, I guess I can, I've been waiting 35 years for "us" (myself and millions of my brothers and sisters) to be vindicated.

I just wish it was someway possible to bring suit against each and every one (from Winter Soldier/VVAW) of those who testified before Congress (first and foremost, the No. 1 Traitorous Snake Rat Bastard Kerry) with their lies about us and force them to produce evidence or admit they had fabricated all their scurrilous charges.

Every night I pray that Kerry will run in 08 so that we can finish the job we started in o4; then we helped expose this fraud and prevaricator of the first magnitude--in 08 we will bury him and his VVAW sycophant, coterie once and for all.

11 posted on 10/10/2006 6:31:00 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist ("INFIDEL AND PROUD OF IT.")
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To: Interesting Times

FYI


12 posted on 10/10/2006 6:33:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Murtha needs a swift BOOT ad!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Ex- Navy here. Not V.V. but will still pony up $$ to help with this one.


13 posted on 10/10/2006 6:37:14 PM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: seasoned traditionalist

If I could say it that well, I would have beat you to it. Well said Brother.


14 posted on 10/10/2006 6:38:01 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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To: wouldntbprudent

At least the lawsuit is not being handled by Judicial Watch so it has a chance.


15 posted on 10/10/2006 6:38:06 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (It's not a religion, it's a political system.)
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To: seasoned traditionalist
Every night I pray that Kerry will run in 08 so that we can finish the job we started in o4; then we helped expose this fraud and prevaricator of the first magnitude--in 08 we will bury him and his VVAW sycophant, coterie once and for all.

Wouldn't that be great!!

He will run of course, but he won't get the nod.
He'll just be one of the many that goes down at the feet of "the Beast".

16 posted on 10/10/2006 6:38:28 PM PDT by evad (sarcasm may be introduced at any moment of any post)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

Yes, I for one will stand with the Swifties again.


17 posted on 10/10/2006 6:39:29 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

We need to figure out how to involve Kerry in a legal action that forces the opening up of his records.


18 posted on 10/10/2006 6:40:28 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Thank you.


19 posted on 10/10/2006 6:45:27 PM PDT by unkus
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To: wouldntbprudent

Agreed, all it will take to derail his future, failed campaign will be a new book and a few bloggers taking notes during this trial.


20 posted on 10/10/2006 6:46:10 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Even The Nicest Pug Has An Evil Twin)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

I couldn't agree more.


21 posted on 10/10/2006 6:46:49 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ThanhPhero

Maybe that issue will come up in this lawsuit.

Certainly it could be part of Kerry "defense" (ahem), so if he still chooses not to disclose his records, one really has to wonder.


22 posted on 10/10/2006 6:51:16 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: hoosiermama
Thanks.

The web site is here, since they managed to leave it off the press release.

23 posted on 10/10/2006 6:57:36 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Parley Baer
The MSM will either ignore this story or put the heavy duty spin on it.

Maybe not. It is probably to Hitlery's advantage for 2008 if the MSM pushes it.

24 posted on 10/10/2006 7:01:43 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: chesty_puller
If I could say it that well, I would have beat you to it. Well said Brother.

Thank you. Keep you powder dry and we WILL prevail.

In o4, this was thrust upon us unexpectedly, when The Snake decided to make his Vietnam "record" his primary platform focus.

Many of us worked together to expose him and in spite of his being protected by the MSM, thanks to John O'Neil and many others, we were mostly successful.

In 08, if he runs, we will be much better prepared and organized.

If this traitor thinks he will get away with what he did last time (and "kick our butts all over the place" Paraphrasing) then by all means, Jean, "Bring It On!!!"

Its been a long time coming (our being able to finally admit we served in Nam and even, be little proud of it) and hopefully, we can salvage not only some of our own pride and reputation, but do so for all those (the 58,000) who were also slandered and could not defend themselves against this slime.

Be safe and God Bless to you and All Our Military--present and former, wherever they may be, and God Bless America.

25 posted on 10/10/2006 7:08:23 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist ("INFIDEL AND PROUD OF IT.")
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To: unkus

Despite repeated promises over many years, Kerry to this day has released only excerpted (irrelevent) medical records, never his actual Form 180 recapping detailed Military Service.

Kerry's medals are phony, obtained under false pretenses on recommendations that he admittedly wrote himself. After four months in 'Nam, he was effectively cashiered-- rotated Stateside in disgrace. Out of hundreds who had close contact with him, virtually none respected his ability, character, or committment. The handful of later endorsers are uniformly publicity-seekers, ready to issue any statement whatever for a fee.

After Kerry's extraordinary Congressional testimony plus clandestine meetings with North Vietnamese envoys in Gay Paree, his self-awarded "decorations" were revoked and he received an overdue Dishonorable Discharge from the U.S. Naval Reserve (conviction for High Treason would have been more appropriate). For some years, until Jimmy Carter betrayed his oath as Commander in Chief, all mention of Kerry's military career disappeared down various Memory Holes. Suddenly --ta-rah!-- Jimmeh's "general pardon" obscured, but could not erase, Comrade Kerry's treacherous historical record.

Kerry's "medals" reappeared-- he had not, it seems, thrown them at the Pentagon after all. To this day, his statue as Hero of the Vietnamese Communist Revolution stands full-scale in Hanoi's war museum. His accusations of American atrocities; his undercover dealings with America's enemies in wartime; his slander of critics and opponents-- only longstanding, formal documentation remains to confirm every item. Kerry cannot, will not, sign his Form, but he can continue indefinitely to lie about it.

If this creep was a Republican, we would have had leaks galore over the last several decades. Anyone interviewing this popinjay who does not, first, present a Form 180 for signature on the spot, or second, press for serial admission of lies going back decades, is merely another retro-Left propagandist, unworthy of minimal respect.

"So, Senator Kerry, you admit promising to make your records public. You have not done so, and refuse to do so now. Tell us, Senator, prior to Carter's blanket whitewash, were you not Dishonorably Discharged? Are your constituents such clueless dolts that they don't know the difference?"







26 posted on 10/10/2006 7:15:26 PM PDT by Pyrthroes (Dwelling in Possibility)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Better be careful! Kerry and his Democrat cohorts will scream, "No fair! They're Swiftboating us!"


27 posted on 10/10/2006 7:17:15 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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To: wouldntbprudent
Let's see how 'tough' Kerry is going to be. lol!
28 posted on 10/10/2006 7:19:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: unkus

Thank you for your service. My brother is a V N vet too, and I know he still feels the pain of being betrayed by the likes of Kerry, in this country. And it was because of what Kerry did.


29 posted on 10/10/2006 7:19:59 PM PDT by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: Pyrthroes

Well said -thank you.


30 posted on 10/10/2006 7:20:22 PM PDT by unkus
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To: wouldntbprudent
Word has it that is why the suit was dropped, the courts were subpoenaing service records.
31 posted on 10/10/2006 7:23:28 PM PDT by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: gidget7

Please tell your brother "Welcome home" for me. It is really a personal thing for the vets. That's why I always get mad when I see any vets treated badly in any way and especially from sorry people like Kerry, Murtha, etc. Thank you for your support.


32 posted on 10/10/2006 7:25:07 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ThanhPhero

"We need to figure out how to involve Kerry in a legal action that forces the opening up of his records."

I wish that could happen! I believe the truth would come out then, and the media couldn't keep it from the public! But then, if Kerry runs in the Dem primary, maybe the Beast will make sure it comes out!


33 posted on 10/10/2006 7:26:01 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: seasoned traditionalist

Admit it proudly!! And own your pride and reputation, none of you have anything you should be feeling accept pride! Kerry should feel shame! God Bless You all!


34 posted on 10/10/2006 7:27:25 PM PDT by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: Pyrthroes

Kennedy got him off, there is no doubt in my mind. He probably got him stateside too.

Compare pictures of the Kennedy clan, as young men, put them next to one of this treasonous scum, and tell me they aren't related! I swear he is Teddy boys kid.


35 posted on 10/10/2006 7:32:11 PM PDT by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: seasoned traditionalist
"No. 1 Traitorous Snake Rat Bastard Kerry"

Amen to that ST! (But next time try not to candy-coat it so much, will ya?)

:)

36 posted on 10/10/2006 7:34:59 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: unkus

No need for my thanks, and I will tell my brother.

I remember when he flew home from Nam, the soldiers were told to change and not wear their uniforms into the airport. Even so, they were spat on. When I heard that, it broke my heart!

He still has a lot of issues over that period of his life. I tell him constantly how proud I am of him, and his service! None of our guys should have been put through that.


37 posted on 10/10/2006 7:35:53 PM PDT by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: VeniVidiVici
After Kerry's extraordinary Congressional testimony plus clandestine meetings with North Vietnamese envoys in Gay Paree, his self-awarded "decorations" were revoked and he received an overdue Dishonorable Discharge from the U.S. Naval Reserve (conviction for High Treason would have been more appropriate).

Careful with your facts here. Officers do not receive a DH but rather dismissal (remember Chuck Connors as Lucas McCord having his buttons pulled off and his sword broken). Such a sentence is appealed and appealed and appealed again. It is a federal conviction and would be very public.

I believe that Kerry is hiding some minor embarrassing information in his record or just hiding his record on general principles. Now that isn't to say that his public record should not be carefully examined, something the media (including CBS) has failed to do adequately.

38 posted on 10/10/2006 7:36:02 PM PDT by jimfree (Navy personnelist in the 70s; business process analyst and BS converter since then.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

SICK EM

WITH LOTS

of very big and fierce bites . . . . 'rabies severe' laden legal bites would be more than OK.


39 posted on 10/10/2006 7:38:16 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: 2111USMC
But next time try not to candy-coat it so much, will ya?)

I think he is kinda shy.

40 posted on 10/10/2006 7:39:04 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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To: wouldntbprudent

This is excellent to hear. Colonel Day is a figure to be reckoned with and my guess is John F'n Kerry will squirm like the weasel he is to try and avoid the Colonel's spotlight.


41 posted on 10/10/2006 7:49:06 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: K4Harty

Free Republic was very instrumental in getting the MSM to pay attention to the Swifties the first time they came out against Kerry...

They were ignoring them...but FR posted about them...and the book they were writing...and we know how HUGH they were in the 2004 election.

We need to help them with anything THEY need...


42 posted on 10/10/2006 7:49:41 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME--You need FR, you know you do, so please don't forget to donate!!)
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To: Parley Baer

since the major media WILL NOT cover this, how on earth will we get updates in this trial???


43 posted on 10/10/2006 7:55:24 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: seasoned traditionalist; unkus; SouthernBoyupNorth
our being able to finally admit we served in Nam and even, be little proud of it

To you, and everyone else who served in Vietnam, you have nothing to be ashamed of and everything to be proud of.

I was born a 'Reagan Baby' in '81 and wasn't around at the time, but as far as I am concerned the call which all of you answered to serve your country, to promote, and defend freedom is honorable and nothing less.

Personally, I find it very disturbing that throughout all my years in publicly-funded schools, it wasn't until I was 22 or 23 years old when I learned that more people died to communism AFTER we pulled out of Vietnam, than died during the war.

Those in the press, and the Kerrys and Murthas who hold office, who chose to make our soldiers out to be monsters, should be deeply ashamed of themselves. As they try to do the same thing now, to our service men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan, it makes me sick to hear it.

You are all heroes, you should have no regrets, and should be very proud of your service to our country.

I am very thankful to all of you.
44 posted on 10/10/2006 7:56:29 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

bad thought...he'll want to be buried in Arlington cematary with honors!!


45 posted on 10/10/2006 7:57:35 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: gidget7

My post #44 is for your brother, and any/all who served. The welcome home they got, brought on by the treasonous American media, was sick.

I'm not a big supporter of capital punishment, but I wish it were still being used today for traitors. I'd settle for treason still being considered a crime.


46 posted on 10/10/2006 8:00:56 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Txsleuth

I agree Tex.

We gave money that we didn't really have. But it was well worth it.


47 posted on 10/10/2006 8:02:57 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Txsleuth
I agree. Keep pinging me with info on this topic and abreast of the situation.

I pinged you to more info on Foley-NON-gate

48 posted on 10/10/2006 8:04:05 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Even The Nicest Pug Has An Evil Twin)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Ping


49 posted on 10/10/2006 8:04:37 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: All; wouldntbprudent

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Anti-Freedom JOHN KERRY's public lies about what we American Soldiers were doing on behalf of the Freedom of others during the Vietnam War..

...helped fool America into ABANDONING the then Free South Vietnamese people to their fate at the hands of hateful GODless invaders from the North =


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts



NEVER AGAIN, especially with our own Freedom now directly at stake here at home in this new time of war.





Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-1st Major Battles for Freedom of the Vietnam War 1965-66

(Pictures)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm


50 posted on 10/10/2006 8:07:33 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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