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NUREMBERG-STYLE TRIALS PROPOSED FOR GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS
U.S. Senate Commitee on Environment and Public Works ^ | Oct11, 2006 | MARC MORANO ( marc_morano@epw.senate.gov ), MATT DEMPSEY ( matthew_dempsey@epw.senate.gov )

Posted on 10/11/2006 6:44:52 PM PDT by FFIGHTER

A U.S. based environmental magazine that both former Vice President Al Gore (http://gristmill.grist.org/print/2006/9/19/11408/1106?show_comments=no ) and PBS newsman Bill Moyers, for his October 11th global warming edition of “Moyers on America” titled “Is God Green?” (http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/05/09/roberts/index.html ) have deemed respectable enough to grant one-on-one interviews to promote their projects, is now advocating Nuremberg-style war crimes trials for skeptics of human caused catastrophic global warming. Grist Magazine’s staff writer David Roberts called for the Nuremberg-style trials for the “bastards” who were members of what he termed the global warming “denial industry.”

Roberts wrote in the online publication on September 19, 2006, "When we've finally gotten serious about global warming, when the impacts are really hitting us and we're in a full worldwide scramble to minimize the damage, we should have war crimes trials for these bastards -- some sort of climate Nuremberg.” http://gristmill.grist.org/print/2006/9/19/11408/1106?show_comments=no

Gore and Moyers have not yet commented on Grist's advocacy of prosecuting skeptics of global warming with a Nuremberg-style war crimes trial. Gore has used the phrase "global warming deniers" to describe scientists and others who don't share his view of the Earth's climate. It remains to be seen what Gore and Moyers will have to say about proposals to make skepticism a crime comparable to Holocaust atrocities.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: algore; billmoyers; bloat; envirowhackos; globalwarming; gore; gristmagazine; manbearpig; moonbatleft; moyers; stalinists
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1 posted on 10/11/2006 6:44:53 PM PDT by FFIGHTER
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To: FFIGHTER
Well, whatever, Gore knows what he likes or he'd broken up with this date quite a bit earlier wouldn't he.

I guess I'll just have to go out and buy even more guns, and maybe 4 or 5 skids of ammo.

Fur Shur don't want that crowd coming near my house.

2 posted on 10/11/2006 6:47:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FFIGHTER

This is either a joke or it is real. These goofs have gone so far out there that it could be real.


3 posted on 10/11/2006 6:47:12 PM PDT by unkus
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To: FFIGHTER

Use carbon based fuels at your own risk. The Carbon police are everywhere.


4 posted on 10/11/2006 6:49:39 PM PDT by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: FFIGHTER

These people are beyond the pale. Far from Nuremburg trials they need to be denounced as taitors and banished from the country on pain of death.


5 posted on 10/11/2006 6:52:11 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (World's newest Freeper, Andrew Wyatt born October 8, 2006)
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To: FFIGHTER

The ghost of Josef Stalin is having a good laugh...


6 posted on 10/11/2006 6:52:31 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: unkus

Hey, the whacks of Greenpeace, PETA, ALF and ELF are for real, I wouldn't think this is satire.

Frugging nitbars.


7 posted on 10/11/2006 6:52:36 PM PDT by Toby06
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To: FFIGHTER
WOrking on a song for these guys ~ think I'll call it "Al Gore Lied" ~ and put it to the rhyme and tune of the "Horst Wessel Lied". Could take a bit of time to make those two songs sound different enough to be meaningful (if you know what I mean).

Then a song about boxcars going to the camps for "concentration on global warming". Then, a song about the alternative power smokestacks fueled by the excess body fat from the "global warming deniers".

This could get pretty complex before it's over.

8 posted on 10/11/2006 6:53:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Toby06

I know they are nuts-that's why I think this could be for real. But we have the guns.


9 posted on 10/11/2006 6:54:05 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus
We've lost our minds if we allow this to happen.
Bill Moyers, for Heaven's sake...?
10 posted on 10/11/2006 6:55:31 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: FFIGHTER
It must be easy to be a leftist. Just when you get to a point of running out of a means of destroying freedom and capitalism all you have to do is invent a foolish cause like global warming, and all of your like minded moonbat friends will embrace it. They will even go as far as totally breaking our country if it advances their agenda.
11 posted on 10/11/2006 6:55:36 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: FFIGHTER; unkus
...to make skepticism a crime comparable to Holocaust atrocities.

Liberals like this are the scariest of all. They truly think that those who oppose their opinions and views should be treated as criminals. If they had their way there would be thought police akin to those portrayed in the movie "Minority Report". If someone even suggests that their views are wrong, they are evil or stupid. Well, personally, I think people like them are the most ignorant and stupid people in existence.
12 posted on 10/11/2006 6:55:47 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: unkus
That's Al Gore's second front on freedom. He is working to take our guns, our carbon and our freedom
13 posted on 10/11/2006 6:56:19 PM PDT by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: FFIGHTER
...now advocating Nuremberg-style war crimes trials for skeptics of human caused catastrophic global warming...

That'll sure spur good honest scientific debate now, won't it?

14 posted on 10/11/2006 6:56:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: muawiyah
I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THIS: Try Me, because I think global warming is a huge myth. If I shall go to the prison for my thought crime, so be it. These guys really are Nazi's. I wonder what the moonbat crowd thinks about their 'idea", anyhow I authored a video about Algore and Global Warming (Manbearpig)last month. You can find it here:

The Moonbat News Network Episode I

 

15 posted on 10/11/2006 6:56:42 PM PDT by lmr (The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
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To: FFIGHTER

I say again: If Hitlery (and the likes of
Algore) gain power, she/they would make Joe Stalin look tame if they could get away with it.


16 posted on 10/11/2006 6:58:47 PM PDT by unkus
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To: FFIGHTER
Of course, this will not apply to the Chinese (#2 polluters) or the Indians (#3 polluters) - only to guilt ridden westerners...
17 posted on 10/11/2006 7:00:18 PM PDT by 2banana
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To: FFIGHTER

It's all part of the two-minute-hate against those who question liberal dogma.


18 posted on 10/11/2006 7:00:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: FFIGHTER

Hey Al GOREY! I don't believe in Global Warming! (except for under your armpits of course!)


19 posted on 10/11/2006 7:02:40 PM PDT by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: FFIGHTER

They have who should be tried backwards, the trials should be for themselves!


20 posted on 10/11/2006 7:06:00 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: FFIGHTER

They already want to fine you if you fart (unless you file for a permit 180 days in advance).

Why am I not surprised at this?


21 posted on 10/11/2006 7:07:54 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: FFIGHTER

I see a bad moon risin'. The second civil war approaches.


22 posted on 10/11/2006 7:09:17 PM PDT by GBA
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To: FFIGHTER

If Global Warming is true and caused by CO2 emmissions, the first person to be placed on trial should be Jane Fonda. She should be followed Bruce Springsteen and Jackson Browne.


23 posted on 10/11/2006 7:09:55 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The is no empirical data to support "Global warming". It is an absolute hoax. These guys are the "flat earth" club. Remember all the hurricanes that were to spawn this year because of this hokem? ONE--- ONE. The only function universal in all satellites in TEMPERATURE measurements!! THE DATA SHOWS 1/10th of a degree every 50 years!! These idiots want to drive you back in the stone age. Tell them to get a life!!


24 posted on 10/11/2006 7:12:59 PM PDT by daisyann
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To: DaveLoneRanger

ping


25 posted on 10/11/2006 7:13:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: FFIGHTER
I got your global warming..


26 posted on 10/11/2006 7:16:32 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: lmr

Damn I am going to be put on trial. Should I hire a lawyer?/ Good Lawd Miss Maude,can I get out on bail if I trade pollution credits with the Chinamen? How about a plea bargain where I promise to sell my pickup truck.

They got me scared now. Lawdy me half a million people in a Neuremburg like trial, the lawyers will get rich.Somebody get me OJ's lawyer on the phone. Oh Cripe he is dead isnt he? I'm done, Maybe they will give me a break if I promise not to pass methane again the rest of my life.


27 posted on 10/11/2006 7:20:04 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: FFIGHTER
Gore has used the phrase "global warming deniers" to describe scientists and others who don't share his view of the Earth's climate.

If the earth is warming, it's warming. So, global warming certainly appears to be happening. The other options are: *cooling* or *stay the same* and it's not doing either of those. What I deny is the reasons they promulgate and their solutions to the problem.

Nuremberg style war crimes trials? That's a bit over the top but I'll bet they'd be happy to find some reason to kill off the rest of us who disagree with them.

28 posted on 10/11/2006 7:21:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: FFIGHTER

"Shut up!", he explained.


29 posted on 10/11/2006 7:22:24 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

" Bill Moyers, for Heaven's sake...?"




Yup, Molly Ivins' personal recommendation for POTUS!

Nuttier than brittle.


30 posted on 10/11/2006 7:25:37 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: FFIGHTER

Whatever happened to freedom of speech...and free will? When did we decide to prosecute those who don't agree with us?


31 posted on 10/11/2006 7:28:46 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: muawiyah
How about "Al Gore Lied" sung to "You're So Vain"?

Just mhi. (my humble idea)

32 posted on 10/11/2006 7:36:40 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: FFIGHTER

So once again the left shows if you don't agree with us then you are a criminal.


33 posted on 10/11/2006 7:40:55 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: metmom
If the earth is warming, it's warming. So, global warming certainly appears to be happening. The other options are: *cooling* or *stay the same* and it's not doing either of those. What I deny is the reasons they promulgate and their solutions to the problem.

The earth has been warming for some 12-15,000 years. That's why we don't have glaciers throughout the northern part of the US any longer, and why the sea levels have risen some 400-430 feet (most of that prior to 5,000 years ago).

The questions are, is the warming accelerating because of human activities, and what (if anything) should or even could be done.

This is where we need the best research possible, and the threat to charge one side of a scientific debate with "war crimes" is just like a bunch of liberals. They wanted "free speech" when they were the unwashed mobs, but when they took over that's the last thing they want to see.

34 posted on 10/11/2006 7:40:56 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

I think somebody did that one. My idea was more original ~ just use the Deutsche Nazi party song from WWII, and see if we can hammer it around a bit to make it different from what AlGore's little friends have in mind for everybody.


35 posted on 10/11/2006 7:44:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FFIGHTER
Use carbon based fuels at your own risk. The Carbon police are everywhere.

Oh come on! It isn't the Carbon Police, it's the Thought Police. The trials wouldn't be for causing "pollution" (I have yet to have it fully explained to me now carbon DIoxide, the gas that plants convert into oxygen is a pollutant). The crime is for thinking that the pollution you are causing won't cause the world to burn up, drown and freeze all at the same time. The thought is the crime! Can anyone say 1984?

This whole concept comes as no big surprise to me. The left has been advocating "thought crimes" for quite a while, this is why we have "hate crimes" as a sentence enhancer. So why not propose the next step and make disagreement with liberals a crime?

We must also keep in mind that they are huge proponents of "free speech", but only for them. When is the last time Justice Thomas has been allowed on a University to speak? The left has ABC, CBC, NBC, CNN, etc; but Rush should be subject to the "fairness" doctrine, forcing him to give up half his time to a lefty!

This whole concept fits in well with their patterns; it is just the next step. True, this one is premature; it's a test balloon. This is why we can't allow them to get in control of anything ever again!

Mark A Sity
36 posted on 10/11/2006 7:44:16 PM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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To: sgtbono2002

LMAO


37 posted on 10/11/2006 7:44:56 PM PDT by lmr (The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
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To: metmom

Read an interesting article the other day. Seems a British scientist thinks we can stop GW by injecting sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere. He used the climate change caused by volcanos as an example. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that what scrubbers take out of coal fired power plant emissions? And didn't they become the norm during the 80's? And hasn't been since the 80's that we have had the most supposed warming? Maybe we should just remove the scrubbers and let the PP do the work for us.


38 posted on 10/11/2006 7:54:50 PM PDT by redangus
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To: FFIGHTER

When these fruit bats explain how we can be responsible for global warming on Mars, then I'll take them seriously. Instead they become more shrill and now advocate criminal trials for anyone who disagrees with them. Cute.


39 posted on 10/11/2006 7:56:31 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: muawiyah

You're right -- that would be better. Video -- maybe some of that footage from the red in the face screaming speeches he made?


40 posted on 10/11/2006 7:56:43 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: muawiyah

Well, guess I'll be put on trial soon.


41 posted on 10/11/2006 8:32:15 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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To: FFIGHTER
What happens if there's more skeptics that need tryin' than there is believers that want to do the prosecutin'??

And what if the persecuted got more of the guns and ain't afraid to fight the nutbars??

Libs gonna lose again (regardless of hyped polls) ...

Just keep pokin' the sleepin' bear with your sharp sticks and one day the bear gonna get more than grouchy with you ankle biters ...

42 posted on 10/11/2006 9:05:09 PM PDT by Babu
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To: redangus
IIRC, (it's too late to google it now for me, I'm off to bed soon, fighting off a cold I think) they put the scrubbers in because the sulfur dioxide was causing the acid rain. Notice we haven't heard about that for quite some time now.

Problem is, that even if we could do something about it (assuming it's man induced), we could *over correct* and send ourselves into another cooling trend and ice age. Then we'll have the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth over THAT!

My philosophy is that you can't grow crops in the snow. If I had to choose, I'd take global warming with lower fuel costs and extended growing seasons.

We'll never win. There'll always be something for the left to *panic* over so that they'll have excuses to regulate this, that, and the other thing, to control our lives. That's all it's about; control.

43 posted on 10/11/2006 9:13:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

"We'll never win. There'll always be something for the left to *panic* over so that they'll have excuses to regulate this, that, and the other thing, to control our lives. That's all it's about; control."

You've got that right. I lived through the 'coming ice age' hysteria of the 70's. Same people, different song, same desire.


44 posted on 10/11/2006 9:20:46 PM PDT by redangus
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To: FFIGHTER

Global Warming????
It's 10-11-06 and we've got SNOW tonite!!!!!!!
Gore needs to take a LONG walk off of a SHORT pier!


45 posted on 10/11/2006 9:25:31 PM PDT by FlashBack (W)
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To: FFIGHTER

"Stalinist show trials" would be more accurate...


46 posted on 10/11/2006 9:36:06 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: redangus
Seems a British scientist thinks we can stop GW by injecting sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere.

And SO2 + H2O ---> H2SO3

Can you say "sulfurous acid" ???

OK, so it's technically a "weak acid": pKa1 = 1.85 and pKa2 = 7.20

But the DUmmies don't know that...

Cheers!

47 posted on 10/11/2006 9:36:21 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: FFIGHTER

It's "The Trial of Galileo" Part II, but with Al Gore playing the Grand Inquisitor, and Global Warming the Ptolemaic Theory of the Planets.


48 posted on 10/11/2006 9:41:36 PM PDT by montag813
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To: FFIGHTER

I regret that I have but one life to give to the cause of poking fun at the global warming kooks.


49 posted on 10/11/2006 9:45:30 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Republicans are saving their 2006 Oct surprise for 7 Nov. Expect, The Mother of all surprises.)
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To: FFIGHTER

Proud member of the Global Warming Denial Industrial Complex!!

I wouldn't be so suspicious were it not for the fact that EVERY proposed solution to ANY environmental problem ALWAYS involves socialism, electing democrats, and/or un-electing Republicans. Sounds like sound science to me!! I noticed that when clinton was elected president, environmental problems decreased significantly within one day after his election (based upon the immediate DECREASE in the number of "environmental disaster" stories reported in the MSM).


50 posted on 10/11/2006 10:59:31 PM PDT by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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