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Legislating Morality
Townhall ^ | 10-12-06 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 10/12/2006 2:28:26 AM PDT by nancyvideo

Dear Students:

First of all, I would like to thank each of you for signing up for my class this semester at UNC-Wilmington. Part of my job as your professor is to dispel certain myths you learn in your other classes, especially sociology. If you decide to question these myths in Sociology 101, your professor is likely to assign you to sensitivity training sessions.

Because our university faculty is so overwhelmingly liberal, many of these myths constitute arrogant dismissals of conservative ideas – ideas that your professors would take more seriously if they had a little more experience interacting with conservatives. Some of your professors have never met a conservative and could only spot one from a distance based largely on the conservative’s physical appearance and grooming habits.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: adams; bias; education; myths
Great article. Adams makes his point with humor, satire and cold hard facts. I want to be like him when I grow up
1 posted on 10/12/2006 2:28:26 AM PDT by nancyvideo
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To: nancyvideo

It was worth reading through all that to get to:

"Is there any relationship between the ACLU’s love of communism and its hatred of religion?"



2 posted on 10/12/2006 2:34:18 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Jay777; Gribbit

Interesting read.


3 posted on 10/12/2006 3:03:42 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: nancyvideo
In the famous 1925 Scopes “monkey” trial, Clarence Darrow stated: “For God’s sake, let the children have their minds kept open – close no doors to their knowledge; shut no door from them. Make a distinction between theology and science. Let them have both. Let them be taught. Let them both live.” Have you ever met a 21st Century liberal who believes that both evolution and creation should be taught in schools? Or do they say “Let them have only one”?

Can you name the 1981 Arkansas case in which the ACLU (the ones who brought us the Scopes case) argued that teaching both evolution and creation is actually in violation of the First Amendment?

IMHO he slipped up here. The ACLU didn't argue that teaching creation in a theology class was against the first amendment. "Taught in schools" is much different than "taught in the same class". It seems ol Mike has been taken in by the ID promoters.

4 posted on 10/12/2006 3:20:58 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: nancyvideo

Great article, I just didn't like being led to the book sites where I could spend my money on their answers. I'll see what kind of answers are floating around the net first.


5 posted on 10/12/2006 3:37:44 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: nancyvideo

Great article!


6 posted on 10/12/2006 4:03:48 AM PDT by libertylover (If it's good and decent, you can be sure the Democrat Party leaders are against it.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Oh geesh gosh golly, you are right, so right, oh State-Approved Science Man! There is no Science but Secular Science, and no prophet of Science but Darwin!
7 posted on 10/12/2006 4:07:35 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
It seems ol Mike has been taken in by the ID promoters.

That's a pretty big jump you're making there. I can't believe how some people can read a totally benign paragraph, filter it through their passions over a single issue, and make the paragraph say something it does not. (This goes for both sides of crevo, abortion, immigration - any hot button issue).

It is good to have passion, but sometimes passion makes us irrational; we see boogymen in every written word and every event (see yesterday's plane crash).

This was a great article.

8 posted on 10/12/2006 4:17:09 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
IMHO he slipped up here. The ACLU didn't argue that teaching creation in a theology class was against the first amendment.

IMHO you slipped here ... because the ACLU would argue that teaching a theology class in public school is against the first amendment ... it's all part of the same endgame.

9 posted on 10/12/2006 4:54:28 AM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: nancyvideo

Barry Goldwater was right: "You can't legislate morality".

The whole Old Testament was written to prove that. Man failed The Law every time. Morality comes from the heart and is a product of the New Man's (born again) fruits of the spirit.

The motivation to have His law written on our hearts is loving Him with all our heart. Then comes morality, something that doesn't exist by itself.


10 posted on 10/12/2006 5:00:12 AM PDT by RoadTest (The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
It seems ol Mike has been taken in by the ID promoters.

Dr. Adams believes in Biblical creation, and doesn't hesitate to say so.

Amazing, isn't it? A man with a PhD, well-regarded in his profession, and also a widely-read conservative columnist ... and he believes God created the heavens and the earth.

11 posted on 10/12/2006 5:02:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: tx_eggman

Your logic is speculative, mine is based on fact. I will stick with facts above assumptions.


12 posted on 10/12/2006 5:23:46 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Tax-chick

I have met a lot of people with PhD's who have some very unusual ideas. Having a PhD in anything that isn't science is generally a sign that a person couldn't figure out what to do with their lives in the mid-20s and had parents with a decent amount of money.


13 posted on 10/12/2006 5:25:44 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

You are right. But too many people here see religion as science and want them taught side by side. Religion belongs in Theology classes, and science belongs in science classes.


14 posted on 10/12/2006 5:34:54 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
There is no more evidence that life evolved here on the earth than there is for it to have been delivered or engineered by extraterrestrials.

How do evolutionists feel about teaching that life came from outer space? They already teach the Big Bang theory...


15 posted on 10/12/2006 5:35:10 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: RoadTest

RT,
... so you would argue against laws that make murder, theft, etc illegal?

ampu


16 posted on 10/12/2006 5:35:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: doc30
But too many people here see religion as science and want them taught side by side.

I can't figure out if they want science taught as a religion, or religion taught as a science.

17 posted on 10/12/2006 5:40:01 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

My point was that he makes no effort to hide what he believes, and hasn't been "taken in" by anyone. Some people ... some educated, extremely successful people, like Mike Adams and Ann Coulter ... simply don't believe in evolution.


18 posted on 10/12/2006 5:58:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
It seems ol Mike has been taken in by the ID promoters.

Can't argue with facts like this, you win.

19 posted on 10/12/2006 6:19:07 AM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: nancyvideo

While certain moral imperatives like not committing murder need to be legislated, there is a fine line between legislating morality and using legislation for nanny state social control.


20 posted on 10/12/2006 6:37:43 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
How do evolutionists feel about teaching that life came from outer space?

Evolutionists don't care. They don't teach about where life "came from" they teach about how it evolved. Beyond that is theology and should be taught in a different classroom.

However as an avid reader of evo-crevo threads I can recognize someone who has no grasp of what science is pretty quickly. Goodbye.

21 posted on 10/12/2006 6:58:14 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Tax-chick
Some people ... some educated, extremely successful people, like Mike Adams and Ann Coulter ... simply don't believe in evolution.

Either that or they know well enough that their constiuencies don't and they are better off just saying what those people want to hear rather than potentially upset the masses.

22 posted on 10/12/2006 7:02:09 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Evolutionists don't care.

The theory of evolution has everything to do with the origin of life; it is entirely dependent upon change over a period of time.

You have no grasp of logic, which is a requirement to conduct any scientific endeavor. You are defending an immmaculate conception...

23 posted on 10/12/2006 7:18:54 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Either that or they know well enough that their constiuencies don't and they are better off just saying what those people want to hear rather than potentially upset the masses.

Thank you, Dr. Goebbels for your elitism...

24 posted on 10/12/2006 7:20:35 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; BlackElk
... they are better off just saying what those people want to hear rather than potentially upset the masses.

What a creepy thing to say.

Irrational, too, since "the masses" don't know Mike Adams from a hole in the head, and would only recognize Ann Coulter as the really skinny blonde who's on the news sometimes.

Educated, socially and economically conservative, politically involved citizens are the market for these writers/speakers.

25 posted on 10/12/2006 8:05:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

The Haeckler drawings have been shown to be fraudulent. Darwinism has been debunked. The left, curiously enough, didn't even mention Coulter's chapter debunking Darwinism because it's pretty hard to refute her facts. Has anyone ever heard a liberal defend Darwinism on the facts?


26 posted on 10/12/2006 10:12:07 AM PDT by nancyvideo (nancyvideo)
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To: Tax-chick

Nonsense.

Both Adams and Coulter are essentially politicians. They have chosen to be entertainer/politicians, but their audience are individuals of a particular political persuasion and it is very obvious where the majority of their audiences stand on certain issues.

Just like politicans who stand for election, their success depends upon appealing to their constiuents. Also, just like politicans, there is no reason to believe that every view they espouse in public corresponds 100% to their privately held beliefs.

Sorry if I burst your bubble of pseudo-reality.


27 posted on 10/12/2006 10:45:43 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Bless your bowels, honey.


28 posted on 10/12/2006 12:21:19 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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